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Post by bricejchandler on May 10, 2020 9:49:52 GMT -6
www.audiomaintenance.com/acatalog/aml-17-038_extended_info.htmlThese kits are so cheap it's pretty crazy, I'm wondering if anybody has compared them to the EZ 1073 rack or the 500 one with eq. I'm very familiar with both of those but have never heard the single space one. They're so darn cheap you'd think that everybody would have some...
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Post by jamiesego on May 10, 2020 10:02:55 GMT -6
I dig the kind of WWII battleship look. I wonder if it would be annoying to have to use a screwdriver to use the trim during tracking.
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Post by grantb on May 10, 2020 11:34:57 GMT -6
I dig the kind of WWII battleship look. I wonder if it would be annoying to have to use a screwdriver to use the trim during tracking. I built a pair with the eqs. It's easy enough to turn the trim screw with a thumbnail.
I'm afraid I won't be much help with comparisons. I don't have any experience with other 1073s. I have one friend locally who has the built versions of the AML, but I doubt we'll be getting together for a shootout anytime soon. I do know electronics though, and I can say these kits are absolutely top shelf when it comes to the quality of the components and instructions provided. They're a steal for the price, very much like the CAPI kits. They sound big and fat and awesome and vintage, if that helps.
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Post by plainofjars on May 10, 2020 11:55:50 GMT -6
I have the Seventh Circle N72's and I'm interested in how they compare to the EZ1073 preamp when paired with the the EZ1073EQ. Has anyone been able to compare?
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Post by bricejchandler on May 10, 2020 12:21:44 GMT -6
I dig the kind of WWII battleship look. I wonder if it would be annoying to have to use a screwdriver to use the trim during tracking. I built a pair with the eqs. It's easy enough to turn the trim screw with a thumbnail.
I'm afraid I won't be much help with comparisons. I don't have any experience with other 1073s. I have one friend locally who has the built versions of the AML, but I doubt we'll be getting together for a shootout anytime soon. I do know electronics though, and I can say these kits are absolutely top shelf when it comes to the quality of the components and instructions provided. They're a steal for the price, very much like the CAPI kits. They sound big and fat and awesome and vintage, if that helps.
Thanks for the feedback. I gotta admit the kit is so cheap, part of me feels like it might be too good to be true! I’m very familiar with the Capi preamps. How would you compare them? Same quality? |
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Post by grantb on May 10, 2020 14:00:52 GMT -6
Thanks for the feedback. I gotta admit the kit is so cheap, part of me feels like it might be too good to be true! I’m very familiar with the Capi preamps. How would you compare them? Same quality? I haven't built the CAPI pres yet. I've built the XLR filtered rack, 2xLC25 and 2xML2 with gar1731s, garAM10s, and CA-0252s. Since then I have ordered 2xVP28, 2xBT50, FC526, DB25 rack, garOA10s, gar2520s and more CA-0252s. So I'm new but already a big CAPI fanatic. I want a whole CAPI console. Based on what I've seen from the AML 500 1073s, you could easily call them the British CAPI when it comes to 500 modules. Same level of high quality components: switches, pots, caps, iron, pcbs, faceplates. Everything fits perfect just like a CAPI module.
I can't comment on the AML full rack stuff. I'm tempted, but the polycarbonate faceplate overlay thing turns me off. I'd pay an extra hundred to get a proper faceplate. Those Pultecs and Neve comps would look incredible with the same gray as the 1073s. If I'm going to go to the trouble to build it meticulously, I want it to look as good on the outside as it does inside. (EDIT: this is referring to the DIY full rack kits. The built stuff has different faceplates.)
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Post by pfhuck on May 10, 2020 16:40:39 GMT -6
I dig the kind of WWII battleship look. I wonder if it would be annoying to have to use a screwdriver to use the trim during tracking. I built a pair with the eqs. It's easy enough to turn the trim screw with a thumbnail.
I'm afraid I won't be much help with comparisons. I don't have any experience with other 1073s. I have one friend locally who has the built versions of the AML, but I doubt we'll be getting together for a shootout anytime soon. I do know electronics though, and I can say these kits are absolutely top shelf when it comes to the quality of the components and instructions provided. They're a steal for the price, very much like the CAPI kits. They sound big and fat and awesome and vintage, if that helps.
Just to clarify, the EQ 'needs' the 1073 preamp to function? Or does it operate standalone? |
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Post by grantb on May 10, 2020 17:02:50 GMT -6
I built a pair with the eqs. It's easy enough to turn the trim screw with a thumbnail.
I'm afraid I won't be much help with comparisons. I don't have any experience with other 1073s. I have one friend locally who has the built versions of the AML, but I doubt we'll be getting together for a shootout anytime soon. I do know electronics though, and I can say these kits are absolutely top shelf when it comes to the quality of the components and instructions provided. They're a steal for the price, very much like the CAPI kits. They sound big and fat and awesome and vintage, if that helps.
Just to clarify, the EQ 'needs' the 1073 preamp to function? Or does it operate standalone? Correct. As you can see from my pics, there's no input or output transformers or amp cards on the EQ module. It would be physically impossible to cram all the authentic style iron into one slot. The addonEQ will work with the ez1073 500 mic or line preamps, but not the 1081s.
I'm kinda curious about the 1081s, I might try the line version. I don't actually use a lot of mics to make my own (weird-ass) music, and when I do it's usually the Usi Pros into the SD MixPre 10 II preamps. Hmmm, I should buy/build more mics...
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Post by Vincent R. on May 10, 2020 17:41:20 GMT -6
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Post by grantb on May 10, 2020 18:02:01 GMT -6
whoa, crazy! Just the 1073 pre by itself is Tetris. I've only been checking the DIY stuff (cheapskate).
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Post by bluegrassdan on May 10, 2020 20:42:02 GMT -6
I have built one ez1073-500 and two ez1073 1u rackspace. However, I have not compared them AB.
Perhaps I can do that soon.
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Post by matt@IAA on May 10, 2020 20:47:31 GMT -6
The only difference would be the size difference of the transformers and the physical layout. As far as I know the schematics are identical. I’d be surprised if they’re noticeably different.
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Post by bricejchandler on May 11, 2020 4:46:43 GMT -6
I have built one ez1073-500 and two ez1073 1u rackspace. However, I have not compared them AB. Perhaps I can do that soon. Nice! Are you happy with the 500 version?? |
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Post by the other mark williams on May 11, 2020 9:32:32 GMT -6
I feel like an idiot: I’ve always had trouble navigating their page. I usually can’t figure out where to go on the site to figure out what’s for sale, what you have to build DIY, what comes pre-assembled, etc. It always confuses me. I clearly need to figure it out. £290 assembled for a 1073pre-500? That’s great. Well, unless you’re kcatthedog. $502CAD. Yikes! Sorry, brother.  that’s a tough exchange rate. |
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Post by Vincent R. on May 11, 2020 10:33:11 GMT -6
For those interested in that AML Standalone 1073EQ:
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Post by kcatthedog on May 11, 2020 15:54:59 GMT -6
Plus 6-8% duties and 13-14 % combined federal and provincial taxes and what ever your shipping and brokerage charged are . |
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Post by bluegrassdan on May 11, 2020 18:05:36 GMT -6
I have built one ez1073-500 and two ez1073 1u rackspace. However, I have not compared them AB. Perhaps I can do that soon. Nice! Are you happy with the 500 version?? Yes. BUT, I haven't really done a lot of recording with it to know how it compares to the 1U rack/eq version. My wife bought me the kit two Christmases ago, I put it together that night, and have used it only a handful of times for overdubs and such. Nothing ultra critical. Been spending too much time with my tube pres. |
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Post by lando on May 12, 2020 3:55:08 GMT -6
I feel like an idiot: I’ve always had trouble navigating their page. I usually can’t figure out where to go on the site to figure out what’s for sale, what you have to build DIY, what comes pre-assembled, etc. It always confuses me. I clearly need to figure it out. £290 assembled for a 1073pre-500? That’s great. Well, unless you’re kcatthedog. $502CAD. Yikes! Sorry, brother. that’s a tough exchange rate. It’s definitely not you, it’s a super lousy crap site that’s impossible to understand and navigate But the products are really awesome and prices are great! |
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Post by kilroyrock on May 12, 2020 7:46:17 GMT -6
I think AML is the direct distributor for carnhill transformers, so he's got a heck of a discount. From my understanding, he also worked at Neve? This is 50th hand info but I have built two of the 73's, and use them as my stereo pair, since i don't have any other stereo pairs of neve things by the same manufacturer. I'm happy with them! He even labels the parts so that you just put them in order. I'm trying to remember if the resistors were even pre-bent too... it's really a deal if you're east coast U.S. I get 2-3 day shipping from England. I have 2 spaces left in my rack for the EQ's when I feel like disappearing 600 bucks.
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Post by the other mark williams on May 12, 2020 9:45:22 GMT -6
I feel like an idiot: I’ve always had trouble navigating their page. I usually can’t figure out where to go on the site to figure out what’s for sale, what you have to build DIY, what comes pre-assembled, etc. It always confuses me. I clearly need to figure it out. £290 assembled for a 1073pre-500? That’s great. Well, unless you’re kcatthedog . $502CAD. Yikes! Sorry, brother. that’s a tough exchange rate. It’s definitely not you, it’s a super lousy crap site that’s impossible to understand and navigate But the products are really awesome and prices are great! Somehow, this makes me feel better. |
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Post by Blackdawg on May 16, 2020 2:23:03 GMT -6
Thanks for the feedback. I gotta admit the kit is so cheap, part of me feels like it might be too good to be true! I’m very familiar with the Capi preamps. How would you compare them? Same quality? I haven't built the CAPI pres yet. I've built the XLR filtered rack, 2xLC25 and 2xML2 with gar1731s, garAM10s, and CA-0252s. Since then I have ordered 2xVP28, 2xBT50, FC526, DB25 rack, garOA10s, gar2520s and more CA-0252s. So I'm new but already a big CAPI fanatic. I want a whole CAPI console. Based on what I've seen from the AML 500 1073s, you could easily call them the British CAPI when it comes to 500 modules. Same level of high quality components: switches, pots, caps, iron, pcbs, faceplates. Everything fits perfect just like a CAPI module.
I can't comment on the AML full rack stuff. I'm tempted, but the polycarbonate faceplate overlay thing turns me off. I'd pay an extra hundred to get a proper faceplate. Those Pultecs and Neve comps would look incredible with the same gray as the 1073s. If I'm going to go to the trouble to build it meticulously, I want it to look as good on the outside as it does inside. (EDIT: this is referring to the DIY full rack kits. The built stuff has different faceplates.)
Here is a nice EZ1073 faceplate you can buy off the shelf: www.don-audio.com/Frontpanel-DON-EZ1073_1Comes in a nice blue or black. Can add in a knob kit, enclosure, and just about everything else needed that doesn't come with AML's kit, just scroll down a bit on that page and add the options. The ez2254 comes with a metal faceplate I thought.. |
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Post by grantb on May 16, 2020 11:54:46 GMT -6
I haven't built the CAPI pres yet. I've built the XLR filtered rack, 2xLC25 and 2xML2 with gar1731s, garAM10s, and CA-0252s. Since then I have ordered 2xVP28, 2xBT50, FC526, DB25 rack, garOA10s, gar2520s and more CA-0252s. So I'm new but already a big CAPI fanatic. I want a whole CAPI console. Based on what I've seen from the AML 500 1073s, you could easily call them the British CAPI when it comes to 500 modules. Same level of high quality components: switches, pots, caps, iron, pcbs, faceplates. Everything fits perfect just like a CAPI module.
I can't comment on the AML full rack stuff. I'm tempted, but the polycarbonate faceplate overlay thing turns me off. I'd pay an extra hundred to get a proper faceplate. Those Pultecs and Neve comps would look incredible with the same gray as the 1073s. If I'm going to go to the trouble to build it meticulously, I want it to look as good on the outside as it does inside. (EDIT: this is referring to the DIY full rack kits. The built stuff has different faceplates.)
Here is a nice EZ1073 faceplate you can buy off the shelf: www.don-audio.com/Frontpanel-DON-EZ1073_1Comes in a nice blue or black. Can add in a knob kit, enclosure, and just about everything else needed that doesn't come with AML's kit, just scroll down a bit on that page and add the options. The ez2254 comes with a metal faceplate I thought.. The ezP1A description says "Faceplate may vary from that shown. Engraved version shown may be replaced by polycarbonate overlay version". It doesn't look that great to me in close up pics like on Reverb. The price is attractive though. I suppose you could get a different faceplate made, but would I bother? Not sure. My friend wants me to help him build the analogvibes Pultec, so he's got me considering full handwired clone style despite the large price difference ($3k for a pair).
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Post by bricejchandler on Sept 24, 2020 10:41:52 GMT -6
Any new feedback on these?
I'm still thinking about getting some but can't seem to find anybody who's actually used them much!
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Post by bywaudio on Aug 15, 2021 7:40:52 GMT -6
I build many of these, as well as the addon and the line eq. All of which are amazing, I compare them directly with Neve 1073LB and I can tell you they are absolutely flawless, I prefer the AML, maybe a bit because I build them myself. But hey DIY is very cool and it is a challenge, so I say go for it and try but if you can you can always reach me direct and perhaps I can build them for you. Oh yeah that is also my business here in Canada, I build all sort of gear and even make my own guitar and bass pedals. Stay safe and have a great time making our own music...always!
Peace!
jy
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Post by iainhutch on Aug 15, 2021 13:21:18 GMT -6
I have 2 of the 2 space ez1073-500 pres with EQs and 2 of the single space pre only modules, which I use side by side all the time...
In my opinion the single space units are one of the best deals out there and I’ll be buying more of them as soon as I can! They sound stunning, weigh a tonne and feel really solid - all for a price that does indeed look too good to be true - but it’s not...
I don’t feel any loss using the single space units compared to using the double space with the eq switched out... in fact I almost wondered if the single space units sounded deeper and fuller than the double space but probably just excitement over the new aquisition.. either way they are certainly no compromise and I would recommend them highly...
Cheers,
Iain
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that’s a tough exchange rate. 
