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Post by geoff738 on May 2, 2020 13:28:12 GMT -6
What mics are these?
Specifically what the vocalist/ pianist is using. I’ve seen mics with red bodies like this before a few times, can’t remember exactly where, and wondered what they are. Given that this is German tv, I d guess German or Austrian, but that’s just a guess. And, has anybody here used them? If so, thoughts? Cheers, Geoff
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Post by geoff738 on May 2, 2020 14:49:17 GMT -6
While not answering my question, a bit of googling around found This which has some info on vintage mics. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by geoff738 on May 2, 2020 14:53:03 GMT -6
And here is Rory Gallagher, also from the Beat Club show around the same time period with what look to be the same mics. Rory
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Post by lpedrum on May 2, 2020 18:54:33 GMT -6
Don't know what the red ones are. The mic on the rack toms is an AKG.
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Post by Ward on May 4, 2020 9:43:24 GMT -6
DOn't know what mics they are or if they're responsible, but possibly the best way to screw up a live vocal sound or piano sound I've heard on German TV. Normally German TV had awesome sound. These look like some of the cheaper Beyer mics from back in the day. And on top fo that, I really don't like them - just to remove all doubt so Johnkenn doesn't accuse me of being vague. |
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Post by ericn on May 4, 2020 11:57:40 GMT -6
DOn't know what mics they are or if they're responsible, but possibly the best way to screw up a live vocal sound or piano sound I've heard on German TV. Normally German TV had awesome sound. These look like some of the cheaper Beyer mics from back in the day. And on top fo that, I really don't like them - just to remove all doubt so Johnkenn doesn't accuse me of being vague. I’m seriously wondering if the music was recorded at some gig and the mics are prop shop mics. |
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Post by geoff738 on May 4, 2020 16:23:41 GMT -6
Given how distinctive they are, and how they have so far stumped the RGO, that well may be. Or something made just for the Beat Club show. I’m trying to remember if I’ve seen them anywhere else, but honestly, I’m not sure.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by drumsound on May 4, 2020 16:54:33 GMT -6
I feel like someone mentioned a European mic that looked similar to that in grey recently. Maybe MBHO or something. That singer in Procol Harem does have an amazing voice.
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Post by geoff738 on May 4, 2020 17:16:35 GMT -6
Yeah I quite liked that Procol tune. Pretty sure I fist saw these mics on the Rory stuff, and when the PH thing came across my screen I thought, I’ve seen those mics before somewhere. And went back and looked at Rory on the Beat Club, and there they were. They are distinctive enough that they stuck in my brain. But, what are they? Curious, I am.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by EmRR on May 5, 2020 21:27:42 GMT -6
On a Spooky Tooth appearance
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Post by EmRR on May 5, 2020 21:32:53 GMT -6
maybe clearest here
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Post by geoff738 on May 6, 2020 14:27:49 GMT -6
Just came across this Beat Club performances from the early 70s
72 seems to be the year they had everybody using these. Ray Davies is clearly singing into one. But no sign of them with Fotheringay from 70 or Stevie Wonder in 74. I remain in the dark as to who made them though. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by EmRR on May 6, 2020 16:45:01 GMT -6
Just came across this Beat Club performances from the early 70s
72 seems to be the year they had everybody using these. Ray Davies is clearly singing into one. But no sign of them with Fotheringay from 70 or Stevie Wonder in 74. I remain in the dark as to who made them though. Cheers, Geoff Cool article. I'm starting to wonder if this is a 'disguise' or 'trademark', an additional outer case the show used on a common mic. |
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Post by timcampbell on May 6, 2020 16:47:05 GMT -6
Actually they look like they could be some early version of the Sennheiser MKE46 but I wouldn't swear on it. Germany has had many small mic manufacturers, Strasser, MB, RFT, etc.
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Post by geoff738 on May 6, 2020 17:23:29 GMT -6
Yeah does look a bit like the Senn. The ribbed bit almost looks like it is made of rubber or something. Definitely looks like something that could be slipped over another mic body. I haven’t done a compare/contrast with what they were using before these showed up. Might if I get bored enough.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by Ward on May 6, 2020 17:30:47 GMT -6
Actually they look like they could be some early version of the Sennheiser MKE46 but I wouldn't swear on it. Germany has had many small mic manufacturers, Strasser, MB, RFT, etc. Yes, RFT is a definite possibility. |
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Post by geoff738 on May 6, 2020 17:42:50 GMT -6
Although no matches for the Beat Club red bodied mic, this site Cool old mics has pics and a bit of info of mostly old mics from a variety of mic makers. Fun time waster. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by EmRR on May 6, 2020 21:53:50 GMT -6
Sennheiser MD200 or MD400 have similarities, but not it.
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Post by geoff738 on May 6, 2020 22:19:42 GMT -6
Nope. Not quite there. More and more I’m thinking the red bit is a jacket over an existing mic. With a matching red clip. A bit of bling for tv. Can’t find examples not on the Beat Club.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by EmRR on May 6, 2020 22:21:21 GMT -6
Nope. Not quite there. More and more I’m thinking the red bit is a jacket over an existing mic. With a matching red clip. A bit of bling for tv. Can’t find examples not on the Beat Club. Cheers, Geoff Yeah, could just be 431's or similar with a jacket. Tangential related evidence: there's a bunch of pics from CBS radio Chicago in the 1940's, stars and announcers posing with RCA 77-C's that have completely different grills. Customized for some reason; they are more heavy duty and maybe less easily dinged. |
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Post by geoff738 on May 6, 2020 22:25:08 GMT -6
Nope. Not quite there. More and more I’m thinking the red bit is a jacket over an existing mic. With a matching red clip. A bit of bling for tv. Can’t find examples not on the Beat Club. Cheers, Geoff Yeah, could just be 431's or similar with a jacket. If it isn’t something like that Im coming to the conclusion that there may just be a half dozen or so of these made specifically for the Beat Club. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by levon on May 7, 2020 3:16:23 GMT -6
DOn't know what mics they are or if they're responsible, but possibly the best way to screw up a live vocal sound or piano sound I've heard on German TV. Normally German TV had awesome sound. These look like some of the cheaper Beyer mics from back in the day. And on top fo that, I really don't like them - just to remove all doubt so Johnkenn doesn't accuse me of being vague. I’m seriously wondering if the music was recorded at some gig and the mics are prop shop mics. No, Beat Club was always live performances. I never missed a single show back then... |
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Post by Ward on May 7, 2020 10:52:25 GMT -6
I’m seriously wondering if the music was recorded at some gig and the mics are prop shop mics. No, Beat Club was always live performances. I never missed a single show back then... And interesting sound. They really took the bass out of bass drum. |
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Post by EmRR on May 7, 2020 11:16:22 GMT -6
No, Beat Club was always live performances. I never missed a single show back then... And interesting sound. They really took the bass out of bass drum. TV, man. Of course they did. |
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Post by Ward on May 7, 2020 12:54:59 GMT -6
And interesting sound. They really took the bass out of bass drum. TV, man. Of course they did. I know. LOL . . . TV mixes as recently as the late 90s required that. I did a couple of TV shows. |
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