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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 13, 2020 8:43:05 GMT -6
Think it’s better to buy the newer computer than an older trash can at the similar price?
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Post by jeremygillespie on Apr 13, 2020 8:53:06 GMT -6
I’ve been in 2 studios with trash cans that ultimately wound up having big problems with them.
Save yourself the headaches and get the new mini.
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Post by ericn on Apr 13, 2020 9:01:21 GMT -6
The simple answer is this compare their latest Geekbench Scores on something like Everymac.com. The thing is though a Mini will be throttled back under extreme load if it heats up. Trashcan was designed to run at full power. Trashcan will have better video, but new Mini will be supported longer. If I were to ever buy another mini I would. Probably buy one of the these www.sonnettech.com/product/xmacminiserver.htmlFor the added connectivity and if I wanted to upgrading the video via the card slots. |
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Post by notneeson on Apr 13, 2020 9:07:55 GMT -6
The simple answer is this compare their latest Geekbench Scores on something like Everymac.com. The thing is though a Mini will be throttled back under extreme load if it heats up. Trashcan was designed to run at full power. Trashcan will have better video, but new Mini will be supported longer. If I were to ever buy another mini I would. Probably buy one of the these www.sonnettech.com/product/xmacminiserver.htmlFor the added connectivity and if I wanted to upgrading the video via the card slots. My pal Ryan from the excellent Sharkbite Studios (see my avatar) wrote the tape op review of that sonnet box— very favorable review from a dude you can trust. Not sure if I’ve tracked there since he got it, sadly. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 10:33:04 GMT -6
I ran a trashcan for 5 years, probably 10-12 hours a day. It was a solid performer and is much quieter than my mini. It can run under load for as long as you want and it doesn't throttle down. Over the years I boosted the RAM and internal SSD (all from OWC). The computer never gave me problems that weren't my own fault.
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 13, 2020 13:07:01 GMT -6
If only the new Mac Pro could be like $2000 less expensive. That would be great.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 13:19:30 GMT -6
Build a pc and sell your soul to Micro$atan.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 13, 2020 13:35:25 GMT -6
Build a pc and sell your soul to Micro$atan. Thumbs down |
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 13, 2020 13:36:57 GMT -6
Build a pc and sell your soul to Micro$atan. That's certainly been on my mind increasingly over the past couple years. It would require a pretty major set of changes for me, though. Not just in audio, but in video as well. Not going to happen anytime soon. |
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Post by mikec on Apr 13, 2020 14:00:59 GMT -6
Very tempted to get one of the new Mac Pros that are in the Apple refurbished store. They have a full one year warranty and they are discounted about 15%.
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Post by plinker on Apr 13, 2020 15:14:28 GMT -6
If you're up for some tech, I did this (https://www.tonymacx86.com/) and recommend it.
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Post by reddirt on Apr 13, 2020 19:57:02 GMT -6
Ive asked this before but why not the 16' MB pro?.
Cheers, Ross
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Post by professorplum on Apr 13, 2020 19:58:47 GMT -6
I have the most recent Mac Mini (not the one released a month ago with bigger HD but same specs) and threw in 64gb of RAM that I bought off Amazon. 3.2Ghz w/ 6 core i7 and have had no issues here. Was a bit worried about the heat issue from reading about it online but it actually barely ever comes on for me and I live in a generally hot LA apartment...
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Post by reddirt on Apr 13, 2020 23:03:20 GMT -6
Professor, what sort of track/ plug in counts are you running?
Cheers, Ross
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Post by javamad on Apr 14, 2020 5:50:33 GMT -6
I am planning to upgrade from a mid-2012 MBP to a Mac Mini ... I am planning to get the i7 with basic Ram and update myself to 64Gb
I don’t do much video work but if I started I think it would be a case of getting an external eGPU
I wonder if/when we will will see a better cpu than the i7 available in a mini?
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 14, 2020 10:02:05 GMT -6
I am planning to upgrade from a mid-2012 MBP to a Mac Mini ... I am planning to get the i7 with basic Ram and update myself to 64Gb I don’t do much video work but if I started I think it would be a case of getting an external eGPU I wonder if/when we will will see a better cpu than the i7 available in a mini? i think we’ve already seen the Mini’s updates for 2020. I wouldn’t count on a speed bump until 2021 at the earliest. |
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Post by terryrocks on Apr 14, 2020 10:15:19 GMT -6
I’m still running a 2012 mac mini and have only recently encountered issues. That’s with my buffer set to 32ms and a track count a bit over 100. If I raise the buffer for mixing, no issues with these large track counts
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 14, 2020 10:38:12 GMT -6
I’m still running a 2012 mac mini and have only recently encountered issues. That’s with my buffer set to 32ms and a track count a bit over 100. If I raise the buffer for mixing, no issues with these large track counts Nice! So much depends on specific plugin or software instrument use. A 2012 CPU might only be able to run 1 or 2 Acustica plugins, for instance. But when it’s stable and works with your workflow, then why change anything? |
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Post by ericn on Apr 14, 2020 10:38:47 GMT -6
I am planning to upgrade from a mid-2012 MBP to a Mac Mini ... I am planning to get the i7 with basic Ram and update myself to 64Gb I don’t do much video work but if I started I think it would be a case of getting an external eGPU I wonder if/when we will will see a better cpu than the i7 available in a mini? i think we’ve already seen the Mini’s updates for 2020. I wouldn’t count on a speed bump until 2021 at the earliest. If then, the mini has always been the red headed stepchild when it comes to development and refresh. It has Neve made sense, when you think about it, the mini should be the starting point. If you started with the mini you could use that same basic design for laptops and IMacs. Think of the cost savings if you used the mini motherboard as the starting point for all the macs other than the Mac Pro! |
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Post by donr on Apr 14, 2020 16:43:06 GMT -6
I’ve been in 2 studios with trash cans that ultimately wound up having big problems with them. Save yourself the headaches and get the new mini. I've had 2 sets of video cards replaced on my trash can, which I got in 2017. it's a known issue with that machine, and they're designed for it unfortunately. Other than that, the machine has been great, and it's super quiet, you can have it right next to you or your vocal or acoustic mics. I'll keep it until I decide I haven't yet bought my last DAW computer. I'm getting close to that though. Other than paying for new video cards, Apple service has been excellent on it, with lightning turnaround from Texas. |
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Post by ericn on Apr 14, 2020 16:53:24 GMT -6
I’ve been in 2 studios with trash cans that ultimately wound up having big problems with them. Save yourself the headaches and get the new mini. I've had 2 sets of video cards replaced on my trash can, which I got in 2017. it's a known issue with that machine, and they're designed for it unfortunately. Other than that, the machine has been great, and it's super quiet, you can have it right next to you or your vocal or acoustic mics. I'll keep it until I decide I haven't yet bought my last DAW computer. I'm getting close to that though. Other than paying for new video cards, Apple service has been excellent on it, with lightning turnaround from Texas. Hey Don Have you tried a different Brand / Model of video card at all ? |
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Post by popmann on Apr 14, 2020 17:00:19 GMT -6
It's proprietary.
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Post by mulmany on Apr 14, 2020 17:58:12 GMT -6
I was in this position last year... I had just finished a project were my mini was not keeping up, and forget about mixing for video.
I ended up with a 3.6ghz Hex Core trash can. It has been rock solid since getting it. I can actually track at 64 buffer @ 96k. I built a rack mount for it and its quieter then the mini ever was.
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Post by matt on Apr 14, 2020 18:56:11 GMT -6
Think it’s better to buy the newer computer than an older trash can at the similar price? John, I've owned an 8-core/32gb trashcan for going on 5 years and it's been flawless. I never turn the thing off either, and I push it hard, running a 9gb SD3 kit and lots of Plugin Alliance stuff on every session. PT hangs every now and then, but it's PT- my OSX monitoring tools never show excessive utilization at the operating system level. If PT was as solid as the computer, I'd never have an issue. Even so, I lust for the new rack Mac Pro, but not this year. The Madness will have to stop before I make any moves. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 14, 2020 19:14:42 GMT -6
Think it’s better to buy the newer computer than an older trash can at the similar price? John, I've owned an 8-core/32gb trashcan for going on 5 years and it's been flawless. I never turn the thing off either, and I push it hard, running a 9gb SD3 kit and lots of Plugin Alliance stuff on every session. PT hangs every now and then, but it's PT- my OSX monitoring tools never show excessive utilization at the operating system level. If PT was as solid as the computer, I'd never have an issue. Even so, I lust for the new rack Mac Pro, but not this year. The Madness will have to stop before I make any moves. Holy crap. What do you have in the 9gb SD3 to make it that big? |
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