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Post by EmRR on Apr 13, 2020 16:39:29 GMT -6
Atlas, Latchlake, didn’t Triad start making a Starbird again? Is it a real Starbird with the little wheel on the butt to remotely adjust the position of the microphone? Not sure what you mean, are you thinking of one of the larger format TV/film type Perambulators instead? www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-mole-richardson-rca-126-1943990152A Starbird only seems to have a counterweight, no pulley system for adjustment like the Perambulators have. There's an Atlas that's something like SB37 that's much bigger than an SB36, may have a pulley system, discontinued for years, can't find a pic at the moment.
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Post by johneppstein on Apr 13, 2020 19:30:04 GMT -6
Is it a real Starbird with the little wheel on the butt to remotely adjust the position of the microphone? Not sure what you mean, are you thinking of one of the larger format TV/film type Perambulators instead? www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-mole-richardson-rca-126-1943990152A Starbird only seems to have a counterweight, no pulley system for adjustment like the Perambulators have. There's an Atlas that's something like SB37 that's much bigger than an SB36, may have a pulley system, discontinued for years, can't find a pic at the moment. No, it wasn't a perambulator. I used to have one of the booms I'm talking about but did not have tha stand needed to use it. It did not have an external pulley system - it had a small crank wheel at the very back of the boom that was somehow internally connected to the swivel for the mic on the other end* and would allow rotating the mic without having to lower the boom. I'm fairly certain that the boom was an original Starbird - it was maybe 15 or 20 feet long and the shaft was 2 or 3 inches in diameter. I've seen photos of them on movie and TV sets. No, not THAT kind of TV set!
Come to think of it, that crank wheel might have just been a crank - it's been a long time - since the late '80s or maybe early '90s.
It MIGHT have been made by Atlas, I don't remember and am not absolutely certain that I ever knew. It did have kinda have an Atlas "look" to it.
It DID have a big-ass counterweight. Made the weight on the current model SB36 look like a peanut. It was a cylinder with rounded ends, approximately 14" long and about 4" in diameter.
EDIT: The counterweight did look a lot like the fixed weight on the old Model 180 Starbird, but larger, and IIRC both ends were the same shape. I do not remember if the weight was fixed or moveable.
Damn, I wish I still had that thing. I lost it in a move - it was very ungainly and I didn't have a way to transport or a place to store it. Although actually it was WAAY too large to be practical for anything I do.
* - I've always assumed it used a small steel cable or a driveshaft arrangement with universal joints to connect the crank to the swivel.
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Post by yotonic on Apr 13, 2020 21:42:13 GMT -6
Latch Lake and be done. I do use Triad Orbit quite a bit for custom solutions.
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 20, 2020 19:52:24 GMT -6
I just ordered a Latch Lake 1100. It will be really nice to have a microphone stand that I don't have to even think about anymore. I don't think I've ever quoted myself on a forum before, but alas, it is a new day. So...my LatchLake 1100 arrived on Friday, but I didn't have a chance to open it until today. Two words: Holy. Shit. This thing is insane. Like, I really don't know where to start. Nothing I have seen about it online even remotely does it justice. Pictures certainly don't do it justice. Honestly, it's almost too big and heavy for what I needed. I kind of wanted something a little smaller than this, more like what would've been called a micKing 550 (if such a thing existed). Just with a heavy enough base and counterweight. But my gosh. This is just a feat of engineering. Like, pass this on to your great-great-grandchildren. I'm not even sure how useful it would be as a weapon: you could certainly end the life of another human with it, but you'd have to pick it up first. It is for real, and it is amazing. My goodness.
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Post by yotonic on Apr 20, 2020 20:05:11 GMT -6
Triad Orbit Series has some more maneuverable solutions, because you're right the Latch Lake is like an Oak tree.
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Post by mike on Apr 21, 2020 5:34:22 GMT -6
Triad Orbit Series has some more maneuverable solutions, because you're right the Latch Lake is like an Oak tree. I was just looking at Triad Orbit online and like what I see, especially for maneuverable options. How solid does the weight of the stand feel for counter balance of a LDC on a boom ?
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Post by Tbone81 on Apr 21, 2020 6:51:16 GMT -6
Triad Orbit Series has some more maneuverable solutions, because you're right the Latch Lake is like an Oak tree. I was just looking at Triad Orbit online and like what I see, especially for maneuverable options. How solid does the weight of the stand feel for counter balance of a LDC on a boom ?
Picture don't do it justice. Those stands are Heavy. Surprisingly so. For most mics/setups you should be fine.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 21, 2020 8:47:06 GMT -6
I looked around for a Latchlake 1100 , but all the ads that I see have the typical very skinny tripod legs instead of that heavy weight thing with the wheels on it.
Am I missing something?
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Post by dankin on Apr 21, 2020 9:05:44 GMT -6
I have a pair of the ultimates, they are fine for 4050/414/ksm32 type mic's, but I wouldn't use them for anything heavier than that, especially if you need to boom them out very far. I have an old atlas that needs some parts, but that thing is much more sturdy. Which reminds me, I need to try to find some parts for my old stand.
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 21, 2020 9:21:36 GMT -6
I looked around for a Latchlake 1100 , but all the ads that I see have the typical very skinny tripod legs instead of that heavy weight thing with the wheels on it. Am I missing something? That's the thing, Martin: in the pictures online, it looks like they have "the typical very skinny tripod legs," but I'm telling you, these are not skinny nor are they typical. The "tubes" (what's the word I'm looking for here?) are 1.5-2x the diameter of a normal stand. And the whole thing is much heavier than it appears. It is crazy solid. I would not hesitate for one moment to hang any LDC (or pair of LDCs) on this thing. (Hell, you might be able to boom a Decca Tree if you add an extra counterweight...) Just turning around in my studio chair and looking at it right now, it is still astounding to me.
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Post by winetree on Apr 21, 2020 10:40:36 GMT -6
Still using the Atlas SB36W large boom stands and AKG heavy weight mic stands for over 40 years. No need to look for any other mic stands.
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Post by Bender on Apr 21, 2020 11:39:47 GMT -6
I just ordered a Latch Lake 1100. It will be really nice to have a microphone stand that I don't have to even think about anymore. I don't think I've ever quoted myself on a forum before, but alas, it is a new day. So...my LatchLake 1100 arrived on Friday, but I didn't have a chance to open it until today. Two words: Holy. Shit. This thing is insane. I've been eyeing an 1100 for single OH duties and as my main vocal stand. My only problem is once I get one, I'm sure there's no going back....
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 21, 2020 13:16:20 GMT -6
Thanks Mark Williams.
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Post by Bender on Apr 21, 2020 14:49:23 GMT -6
Anyone know of a gear pimp/ retailer that has the skinny on any promo's or discounts to shave a little of the sting off the price tag on one of these? Otherwise I guess I can do the usual vintage king/zen pro audio/zzsounds route.
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Post by yotonic on Apr 21, 2020 15:04:05 GMT -6
Triad Orbit Series has some more maneuverable solutions, because you're right the Latch Lake is like an Oak tree. I was just looking at Triad Orbit online and like what I see, especially for maneuverable options. How solid does the weight of the stand feel for counter balance of a LDC on a boom ?
Not only can you get heavy bases, but I also have a set of the Triad Orbit sand bags. Work great!
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Post by EmRR on Apr 22, 2020 8:43:17 GMT -6
Looking at the info, I've used a Latch LakeE micKing 2200 before. Since I have two SB-36's already, I'd probably get the 2200 for an additional large boom. The 36's will hold an RCA 44 or my Carrier 94, but it's borderline and requires additional counterweights, like these, which everyone should have: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/514784-REG/On_Stage_CW_3_Counterweight_3lbs.htmlThe Latch Lake jam nuts are insane too, similar experience as the other mark williams describes. Like a freakin' silver dollar, won't even fit on some things with very little thread.
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Post by Ward on Apr 22, 2020 10:25:29 GMT -6
Gotta say. I’m loving this latchlake but definitely need the heavier one for the 44
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Post by EmRR on Apr 22, 2020 12:41:54 GMT -6
Gotta say. I’m loving this latchlake but definitely need the heavier one for the 44 2200? I see the newest version of the 2200 has been upgraded to the 3300 sized base. Maybe the only difference now is the height/reach?
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Post by Ward on Apr 22, 2020 13:38:05 GMT -6
Gotta say. I’m loving this latchlake but definitely need the heavier one for the 44 2200? I see the newest version of the 2200 has been upgraded to the 3300 sized base. Maybe the only difference now is the height/reach? The one I showed in the picture is a 2200. I understood the 3300 to have a heavier base with a wider diameter. If that isn't the case, then I'll just get another couple of 2200s and pick up a couple of spare 45 lb plates to increase weight/support to the base of each. The grips are fantastic. I once knew a girl in college who could grip... oops, never mind.
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Post by EmRR on Apr 22, 2020 13:52:45 GMT -6
2200? I see the newest version of the 2200 has been upgraded to the 3300 sized base. Maybe the only difference now is the height/reach? The one I showed in the picture is a 2200. I understood the 3300 to have a heavier base with a wider diameter. If that isn't the case, then I'll just get another couple of 2200s and pick up a couple of spare 45 lb plates to increase weight/support to the base of each. Yeah, I think it says 29 lb base on the current version of the 2200.
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Post by ericn on Apr 22, 2020 16:31:18 GMT -6
Anyone know of a gear pimp/ retailer that has the skinny on any promo's or discounts to shave a little of the sting off the price tag on one of these? Otherwise I guess I can do the usual vintage king/zen pro audio/zzsounds route. Our own John Kennedy!
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Post by mike on Mar 11, 2021 13:51:35 GMT -6
Don't know if this qualifies for "large format Studio Boom Stands" but I went the Triad-Orbit direction and bought their T2/O1-L/ and multiple M2's to be able quick change multiple mic's out when comparing on a source or song.
It's heavier than it looks handling the weight of 47/67 type mic's just fine, is well made with a more flexible range of possible adjustments than what I'm used to. I should have done this earlier.
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