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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 19:29:32 GMT -6
anybody using this? i dont have any tube pre for tracking vocals always used SS. any opinions on this??
i heard few samples on youtube and sounded great
im not a fan of 500 series with all the surrounded controversy like lower voltage/ sharing power/ and people complaining of less headroom..
none the less i was i contemplating in near future hoping to slowly invest in a module or two with 2 slot chassis.. is it close to their 19inch versions which are extremely expensive, at least for me.
i read from some guy on gearslutz that these module was getting way too hot for the PS so he sent his back but the manufacturer saying it shouldn't be an issue.
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Post by Chad on Mar 5, 2020 19:31:15 GMT -6
FYI: I have heard that the Rupert Neve Designs 500 racks and the OST-series by Heritage Audio are both fine for power. Those are the two brands I own, and I've never noticed an issue.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 19:43:19 GMT -6
FYI: I have heard that the Rupert Neve Designs 500 racks and the OST-series by Heritage Audio are both fine for power. Those are the two brands I own, and I've never noticed an issue. Heritage has affordable pricing. don't need like rnd 6slots cause I don't want my ocd to kick in, more like 1-3 to test the waters, thanks for the recommendation Btw, this may sound like a strange question but do modules in differnt PS sounds same or changes slightly depending on the PS? Someone on gearslutz told me (Think he a moderator too) that he did a shootout and even all the PS chassis has an effect on sound.
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Post by tkaitkai on Mar 5, 2020 20:25:06 GMT -6
FYI: I have heard that the Rupert Neve Designs 500 racks and the OST-series by Heritage Audio are both fine for power. Those are the two brands I own, and I've never noticed an issue. Heritage has affordable pricing. don't need like rnd 6slots cause I don't want my ocd to kick in, more like 1-3 to test the waters, thanks for the recommendation Btw, this may sound like a strange question but do modules in differnt PS sounds same or changes slightly depending on the PS? Someone on gearslutz told me (Think he a moderator too) that he did a shootout and even all the PS chassis has an effect on sound. Different chassis can absolutely affect sonics, especially with cheaper poorly-designed PSUs. Once you invest in a quality chassis from API, RND, Heritage, Mercury, A-Designs, etc., I think there’s much less cause for concern.
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Mar 5, 2020 23:13:01 GMT -6
Heritage has affordable pricing. don't need like rnd 6slots cause I don't want my ocd to kick in, more like 1-3 to test the waters, thanks for the recommendation Btw, this may sound like a strange question but do modules in differnt PS sounds same or changes slightly depending on the PS? Someone on gearslutz told me (Think he a moderator too) that he did a shootout and even all the PS chassis has an effect on sound. Different chassis can absolutely affect sonics, especially with cheaper poorly-designed PSUs. Once you invest in a quality chassis from API, RND, Heritage, Mercury, A-Designs, etc., I think there’s much less cause for concern. CAPI chassis is a solid choice as well.
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Post by drsax on Mar 5, 2020 23:31:43 GMT -6
Purple Sweet Ten rack is excellent. I have a pair of these Pres. Only had a chance to briefly test them so far but they sounded excellent.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 23:42:17 GMT -6
Different chassis can absolutely affect sonics, especially with cheaper poorly-designed PSUs. Once you invest in a quality chassis from API, RND, Heritage, Mercury, A-Designs, etc., I think there’s much less cause for concern. CAPI chassis is a solid choice as well. What is capi? Is it some diy type stuff? Heard the name a lot
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2020 23:42:53 GMT -6
Purple Sweet Ten rack is excellent. I have a pair of these Pres. Only had a chance to briefly test them so far but they sounded excellent. What other pres u have?
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Post by allbuttonmode on Mar 6, 2020 2:53:01 GMT -6
I can't speak of any other 500-racks, but being the owner of both the Purple Sweet Ten and a couple of CAPI ones, I can wholeheartedly recommend them. Never had any issues with power. Or otherwise.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 6, 2020 5:03:27 GMT -6
Capi is a diy and built site: excellent products but I don’t believe they have a small 500 chassis.
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Post by drsax on Mar 6, 2020 10:08:37 GMT -6
Purple Sweet Ten rack is excellent. I have a pair of these Pres. Only had a chance to briefly test them so far but they sounded excellent. What other pres u have? a lot... Great River, Wunder, LTL SB & Chroma, API, Daking, Avedis, and many more... these Retro500 pres are amazing. In 500 series, the Retro, LTL Chroma and Great River would be my highest recommendations because of their incredible sound and versatility - they are all different but capable of a wide variety of sounds due to their gain options and other features. There are other 500 series pres that stack up in terms of sound quality, but these three are definitely the most versatile and are world class.
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Post by brenta on Mar 6, 2020 13:16:36 GMT -6
Retro mentions that these can be used as limiters. Anybody tried that yet?
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Post by drsax on Mar 6, 2020 15:24:10 GMT -6
Tonally, do these sound in the same family as running a signal (line-level) through a Retro Sta Level without gain reduction? I haven’t A/B’ed directly with my STA-Level, but generally speaking I’d say yes, they do sound like they are from the same family.
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Post by drsax on Mar 6, 2020 15:27:18 GMT -6
Retro mentions that these can be used as limiters. Anybody tried that yet? I haven’t tried line Level yet, but even with a vocal mic, over driving the circuit created a crunch that leveled the signal in a very musical way. Most preamps pushed to that level would crumble (in a bad way)
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Post by deehope on Mar 7, 2020 8:31:26 GMT -6
When I think of the sta level I think of colored. Can the pre do clean and detailed? Retro mentions that these can be used as limiters. Anybody tried that yet? I haven’t tried line Level yet, but even with a vocal mic, over driving the circuit created a crunch that leveled the signal in a very musical way. Most preamps pushed to that level would crumble (in a bad way)
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Post by drsax on Mar 8, 2020 0:09:48 GMT -6
When I think of the sta level I think of colored. Can the pre do clean and detailed? I haven’t tried line Level yet, but even with a vocal mic, over driving the circuit created a crunch that leveled the signal in a very musical way. Most preamps pushed to that level would crumble (in a bad way) Yes. It has great detail. And can be set to record pretty clean. Just recorded acoustic guitar with it today on low gain settings and it was very clean and detailed
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2020 20:37:12 GMT -6
I'm drooling over this pre, think I want one along with aml ez1081
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Post by professorplum on Mar 8, 2020 21:43:32 GMT -6
Has anyone compared this with other tube pres like Coil Audio/Wight Tank 72/Useful Arts SFP-30/etc? Alot of great tube pres out recently and this one looks great. I doubt many have their hands on this yet cause its so new....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 10:10:13 GMT -6
I have a Sweet 10 and an RND R6 that I use as a travel lunchbox. Both work great. The only issue I've had thusfar, and it was very minor, is that putting my Radial Tank Driver in the 10th slot of my Sweet 10 (closest to power supply) resulted in some unwanted hum. I moved it over a couple slots, and that solved the problem. That's the only module I've had that issue with. The module currently occupying that slot exhibits no such issue.
If you want to continue to avoid 500 series and are decided on getting some sort of tube preamp, look at Hamptone HVTP-2. It seriously blows my mind that virtually every thread about tube preamps fails to mention these. They sound amazing and have probably the best build quality of anything I own. Scott Hampton is rad. It's 2 channels for just over 1k. First real piece of gear I ever bought back in like 2006. I've bought and sold a bunch of stuff since then, but I'll never sell this thing. Great line amp too. I love running drums or even a whole mix though mine in post. DI's sound great. Daisy-chaining the channels is super fun on vocals... just rocks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 10:36:36 GMT -6
If you want to continue to avoid 500 series and are decided on getting some sort of tube preamp, look at Hamptone HVTP-2. yes, im not sure on 500 series. how do u feel about 500 vs 19? i mean you have both right? another one i like is the SPL Goldmike mk2 which is also tube and reasonably priced
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 11:18:24 GMT -6
If you want to continue to avoid 500 series and are decided on getting some sort of tube preamp, look at Hamptone HVTP-2. yes, im not sure on 500 series. how do u feel about 500 vs 19? i mean you have both right? another one i like is the SPL Goldmike mk2 which is also tube and reasonably priced I have no feelings on 500 vs. 19", other than the fact that I like how low profile the 500 series stuff is. Saves a ton of rack space. I have each and they all do what they're supposed to. Any time I've had issues, it's been user error and not a condition of the format.
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Post by stormymondays on Mar 10, 2020 11:19:22 GMT -6
Goldmike is not a tube preamp. It does have tubes but the amplification is not tube.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 11:28:54 GMT -6
Goldmike is not a tube preamp. It does have tubes but the amplification is not tube. ok i dont know all the technicalities, but i did read in description" The Gold Mike MKII sports the selection of three different tube pre-amplifications: +6 dB remains the standard complemented by +12 dB and +18 dB" what am i missing?
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Post by stormymondays on Mar 10, 2020 11:47:04 GMT -6
At least, about 30 dB more I guess
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Post by mikec on Mar 10, 2020 12:19:57 GMT -6
If the Retro 500 pre is anything like the preamp in my Retro Powerstrips it must be pretty awesome. I've had a lot of gear come and go, but the Powerstrips have been my constant go and have outlasted other gear. I started with one, then sold it so I could get a matched pair. Almost makes me want to add the 500 pre as an addition.
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