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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 24, 2019 3:00:12 GMT -6
Always loved this Door’s track, any ideas what the Vox fx were ?
Thx!
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Post by christopher on Dec 24, 2019 10:05:18 GMT -6
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Post by swurveman on Dec 24, 2019 10:33:17 GMT -6
Thanks for that pdf Christopher! I read the interview. On page 36 of the magazine (pg 32 in the pdf) , Paul Rothchild says, "In mono, you can take instruments and put them further behind one another - you can build "layers" - where in stereo, you're spreading things out and it's a little bit more difficult to create perspectives of depth and distance.With stereo you're "pinpointing" your tracks, versus mono or binaural, where the instruments fall into a more natural positioning. ...you can get much better three dimensionality in mono. You get the feeling of space much better in mono." For anyone: Is he talking about a true mono mix, or mixing a stereo mix in mono? Or, building a mono mix first and then doing the panning? I've always wondered what process people use while mixing a stereo mix, and switching back and forth from mixing in mono and then in stereo. I'll often work on the feeling of space he's talking about in mono, and then not like it in stereo and I'm not sure why. He also talks about keeping the panning the same on the instruments throughout the album so the listener can make friends with the different personalities, which I never thought of. Very interesting interview
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 24, 2019 10:49:24 GMT -6
thx Christopher, good read.
I found this too:
"We created an envelope where we could feed Jim's track into the Moog so that he could play any note on the keyboard and it would process his voice," Botnick explains. "I then added a little delay and fed the whole thing into an infinite tape repeat. That was hand-played."
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 24, 2019 10:53:54 GMT -6
You know you are messing with your vocal (Vox1) when:) :
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Post by thirdeye on Dec 24, 2019 15:18:38 GMT -6
What a great read, beyond the Doors article.
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Post by chessparov on Dec 24, 2019 16:24:39 GMT -6
Love The Doors! Chris
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 24, 2019 16:57:10 GMT -6
It is interesting how Bruce kind of got out of the way of the band let them perform and create!
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Dec 24, 2019 17:50:23 GMT -6
He's talking about a mono mix. This was why Phil Spector promoted "back to mono." His "Wall of Sound" only worked in mono.
I think the main thing is that all production decisions need to be made in the final release format.
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Post by chessparov on Dec 24, 2019 18:22:33 GMT -6
IMHO Mono is also particularly suited for simpler Early Rock n' Roll and Rockabilly. Would be interesting to do a Punk song in Mono too, for added "punch". Chris
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Post by donr on Dec 25, 2019 17:48:33 GMT -6
Anybody do a mono mix today? Sometimes I’ll mix in mono because I’ve checked the mix in mono then forget I have and leave it mono until I realize I’m missing the spread. i want it to sound good in mono, but I like to listen L-C-R with ambience all over the place.
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Post by thirdeye on Dec 25, 2019 19:17:53 GMT -6
Anybody do a mono mix today? Sometimes I’ll mix in mono because I’ve checked the mix in mono then forget I have and leave it mono until I realize I’m missing the spread. i want it to sound good in mono, but I like to listen L-C-R with ambience all over the place. I haven't ever done a mix in mono. While I'm mixing (and tracking) I do switch over to mono a bunch though. I like to reference in mono on one speaker.
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Post by chessparov on Dec 26, 2019 0:59:31 GMT -6
Sometimes I think Mono, is mainly for the Single minded.
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Post by theshea on Dec 26, 2019 2:42:08 GMT -6
i had a song called "mono" when in one of my first bands "jesus christ superfuzz", but we recorded it in stereo! :-)
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Post by EmRR on Dec 26, 2019 8:57:25 GMT -6
Yeah, listening to mono on one speaker really is better. None of that pseudo-stereo crap sneaking in from use of two speakers.
I would assume when Bruce says 'binaural' he means LR mixing for two speakers, no C or panning.
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Post by EmRR on Dec 26, 2019 9:00:13 GMT -6
Anybody do a mono mix today? Sometimes I’ll mix in mono because I’ve checked the mix in mono then forget I have and leave it mono until I realize I’m missing the spread. i want it to sound good in mono, but I like to listen L-C-R with ambience all over the place. Things like bluegrassish multi solo trading are easier to mix in mono, on auratone-ish tiny speakers. Get the levels and tones matched there, then go to standard speakers and spread things out if needed.
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Post by soundintheround on Dec 27, 2019 14:23:08 GMT -6
Awesome resource! Thanks! Gonna be checking some of those out for sure
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Post by saltyjames on Dec 29, 2019 22:43:55 GMT -6
Good read.
Come on, come on, come on, come on.. HIT me baby!
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Post by winetree on Dec 30, 2019 1:16:33 GMT -6
Awesome resource! Thanks! Gonna be checking some of those out for sure The Everything Audio studio pictured on on page 2 of the R.E.P. Magazine was my studio designed by Brian Cornfield of Everything Audio. It was located in Claremont Ca. Harrison console, Otari, Lexicon, Urie, Neve, Neumann, Etc. I was there during the 1980's a great time in music. I still have the same analog setup in one of the studios at my present location.
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Post by ericn on Dec 30, 2019 22:50:09 GMT -6
Awesome resource! Thanks! Gonna be checking some of those out for sure The Everything Audio studio pictured on on page 2 of the R.E.P. Magazine was my studio designed by Brian Cornfield of Everything Audio. It was located in Claremont Ca. Harrison console, Otari, Lexicon, Urie, Neve, Neumann, Etc. I was there during the 1980's a great time in music. I still have the same analog setup in one of the studios at my present location. Your showing your age my friend!
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Post by swurveman on Dec 31, 2019 9:22:07 GMT -6
Awesome resource! Thanks! Gonna be checking some of those out for sure The Everything Audio studio pictured on on page 2 of the R.E.P. Magazine was my studio designed by Brian Cornfield of Everything Audio. It was located in Claremont Ca. Harrison console, Otari, Lexicon, Urie, Neve, Neumann, Etc. I was there during the 1980's a great time in music. I still have the same analog setup in one of the studios at my present location. I just read this article about Brian Cornfield. Quite a career.
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