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Post by mcirish on Nov 18, 2019 15:45:39 GMT -6
Over the last few weeks, I finished up some mixes where I ended up using Klanghelm MJUC vari-mu type comp on a vocal buss. It really did a great job of pulling it all together and adding a little body. I use it all the time on mandolin or other things that need a little more "beef". Yesterday I was doing some comparative test on a parallel drum buss, to see what flavors I can get from my usual suspects. I was very surprised by what I liked and what I didn't like. At the top was the MJUC. I never would have tried it there, but I had time to mess around and it sounded great. Punchy but controlled. It really brought up the ambiance without sounding squashed. I was super impressed. I also found OldTimer ME to work well there too, which was also a surprise, but that's off subject. I usually go with an SSL type compressor plugin, like The Glue or Townhouse. In this case, MJUC was much better for what I wanted.
With all that said, I am very interested in two of his other plugins.
1) DC8C compressor
2) SDRR saturator
I don't have any direct need to either right now as I use Softube Harmonics, Tape and Blackbox HG2 for saturation 80% of the time. Still, I'm so impressed with MJUC that I want to support him and maybe encourage him to continue development of his products.
What's your take on those two?
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Post by stormymondays on Nov 18, 2019 15:58:32 GMT -6
I use the pro version of VUMT on every channel. Haven’t tried the ones you are interested in. MJUC didn’t impress me.
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Post by phantom on Nov 18, 2019 16:55:26 GMT -6
VUMT Pro is my most used plugin.
I have MJUC and DC8C. They are good, but I don't use them that much.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 18, 2019 19:43:51 GMT -6
I actually thought mjuc was really good...but haven’t tried it in a while
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Post by mcirish on Nov 18, 2019 19:44:07 GMT -6
Interesting. I've had VUMT for a very long time and never use it. I first started trying it on the master buss to set kick and bass level, but found that approach doesn't work for me.
How are you using it?
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Post by mhbunch on Nov 18, 2019 21:38:43 GMT -6
DC8C is a great workhorse compressor - don’t like the saturation though, I just run it clean. Just used it today on drum bus. I love how much you can dig into settings.
I havnt used the saturation plugin in years since I grabbed soundtoys bundle.
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Post by sean on Nov 18, 2019 21:53:42 GMT -6
I'm glad they finally added a phase flip, trim, and the hi pass filter with VUMT. I remember emailing them years and years ago asking them to implement that, and like stormymondays said it's on every channel so I can check phase and trim down tracks that are recorded too hot. Handy when sending to outboard for mixing.
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Post by Mister Chase on Nov 18, 2019 22:22:43 GMT -6
VUMT quite a bit over here. Have some of the others but they don't get as much use really. They are good, however.
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Post by ragan on Nov 18, 2019 23:18:22 GMT -6
I don't know what it is but I never seem to leave my couple Klanghelm plugs on when I try them. Need to give that hot-rodded compressor a fresh listen.
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Post by levon on Nov 19, 2019 5:28:18 GMT -6
I use VUMT quite often, both for monitoring levels and for lowering the gain, if necessary.
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Post by Guitar on Nov 19, 2019 14:04:51 GMT -6
VUMT has been replaced on 2-bus by Brainworx bx_Control V2 for me. It's just a little bit closer to my ideal meter / monomaker / stereo width. VUMT is excellent though.
MJUC gets used a lot on lead vocals for me. Honestly I've never really tried it anywhere else. Really excellent vocal compressor.
The other ones I still need to try.
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Post by audioscape on Nov 19, 2019 20:13:31 GMT -6
VUMT Deluxe is our most used plug-in whilst mixing. Wouldn't want to use any other meter plug again!
MJUC can be cool on certain things - SDRR is actually really cool too but I rarely use it...
Great plug-in company though!!
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Post by mcirish on Nov 19, 2019 22:10:05 GMT -6
I don't know what it is but I never seem to leave my couple Klanghelm plugs on when I try them. Need to give that hot-rodded compressor a fresh listen. I read that he did a major update on that compressor and made it easier to get results faster. MJUC is always easy to dial in. It's a great vocal compressor and my favorite on mandolin. I was surprised how much I liked it on a drum buss. It was rounder sounding than an SSL type comp. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 22, 2019 11:51:16 GMT -6
I don't know what it is but I never seem to leave my couple Klanghelm plugs on when I try them. Need to give that hot-rodded compressor a fresh listen. I read that he did a major update on that compressor and made it easier to get results faster. MJUC is always easy to dial in. It's a great vocal compressor and my favorite on mandolin. I was surprised how much I liked it on a drum buss. It was rounder sounding than an SSL type comp. Oh I need to check |
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Post by theshea on May 7, 2020 0:50:29 GMT -6
VUMT deluxe is perfect! its chained to my mixbus. gets used in VU mode for balancing kick & bass and than the rest. and when finishing the song i turn it into k-12 mode to overlook the loudness of the song. and i use the monomaker as well ... such a useful and perfect plugin!
MJUC i re-discovered lately. been using it for years but mainly quick and dirty. now i had some time off and digged deep into all the features of the different marks: it covers a LOT of compression/saturation ground. its not "just" a compressor.
i also downloaded the little free DC1A because i do like a few knobs and go! but again, its way more flexible as it seems: clean, aggressive, sidechain ... free!
and ... i got the SDDR as well: it gets into decapitator AND MORE territory!
so more power to klanghelm for not just simulating/emulating/cloning but for giving us super flexible and great sounding tools at more than fair prices!
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Post by christopher on May 7, 2020 18:31:23 GMT -6
MJUC jr is a good plugin. I tried the full version but too many knobs and I didn’t like anything I tried to dial in. MJUC Jr is very usable as-is. The slow setting knocks off a few dB while giving things a little rounder image. Handy as a first compressor. The output knob is a tube distortion knob. Took me a while to understand that messing with the output allows more tonal possibilities. 3 controls are enough for me to get what I want from that plugin and move on.
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 7, 2020 19:10:27 GMT -6
I forget, which compressors are the three compressors in MJUC modeled after? I haven't used it for ages, it was good, but didn't exactly knock out Logic's or UAD's compressors.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 19:22:42 GMT -6
I forget, which compressors are the three compressors in MJUC modeled after? I haven't used it for ages, it was good, but didn't exactly knock out Logic's or UAD's compressors. 1) Fairchild. 50s warm and slow goo. 2) UA 176. 60s punchy warmth. 3) Manley Vari-Mu meets SSL bus comp. Most flexible varimu ever and awesome. Punch slider rules. All have their uses. Very awesome plugin! One of the only itb compressors I like a lot. Density mkIII from Variety of Sound is a great compliment to 3. It’s almost like a Varimu + a sheenier VCA like the Focusrite or Smart C2 but different. The VCA knob is like the punch slider but the box tone is different and saturation screw is insane on guitars too. Instant coming out of the speaker effect without insane upper mid and presence eqs. Don’t Break the Oath. |
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Post by iamasound on May 7, 2020 20:02:07 GMT -6
MJUC from time to time really only on the Mk3 MU model on vox, and the saturation it can impart is very useful to impart a little hair on a voice or instrument. The free DC1A gets used on drum a lot. For a free plugin it actually is quite sophisticated with all the options. All Klanghelm products are cost effective tools at the fair price that they ask.
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Post by theshea on May 8, 2020 1:18:29 GMT -6
MJUC jr is a good plugin. I tried the full version but too many knobs and I didn’t like anything I tried to dial in. MJUC Jr is very usable as-is. The slow setting knocks off a few dB while giving things a little rounder image. Handy as a first compressor. The output knob is a tube distortion knob. Took me a while to understand that messing with the output allows more tonal possibilities. 3 controls are enough for me to get what I want from that plugin and move on. yes, jr is good. its practically mkI. i like mkI on vocals with time setting 1. and than the overdrive lo/hi knobs are handy for finetuning. |
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Post by theshea on May 8, 2020 1:21:51 GMT -6
I forget, which compressors are the three compressors in MJUC modeled after? I haven't used it for ages, it was good, but didn't exactly knock out Logic's or UAD's compressors. i fing mjuc better than logics comps. although i use logics dbx comp from time to time. in blindtests logic comps always sound a tiny bit liveless. what i like about mjuc is also, it forces me to listen as i think the GR is not showing correctly on the VU meter. so i just close my eyes, turn knobs until it sounds like i want to. i like that. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 4:02:30 GMT -6
After using it now frequently for quite a longer time, I find myself using MJUC model 2 the most, sometimes on guitar, sometimes on vocals, sometimes even in the 2bus. Recently I started to use the model 3 more, if I don't need the thickness but a more modern sound. Both great comps. The model 1 is somehow special. In the beginning I was fascinated by it, but somehow it gets easily overdone. I had good honeymoon phase with it, but switched more and more often to the model 2 after quick comparison.
Model 3 though really shines with modern sounds and it's punch control.
All in all, love this thing.
The models are seemingly based on the previously mentioned real worlds comps, but they are not modeled to be digital replicas, means, they are probably the base for the emulation model, but stand on their own, more resembling the different vari-mu eras of compressor. So most probably the models used for the tubes and component values and topology used in the emulation might be actually different to what would be a faithful recreation of specific compressors. At least this is what I got from Tony's (Klanghelm) explanation ...
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Post by mrholmes on May 8, 2020 9:10:04 GMT -6
I'm glad they finally added a phase flip, trim, and the hi pass filter with VUMT. I remember emailing them years and years ago asking them to implement that, and like stormymondays said it's on every channel so I can check phase and trim down tracks that are recorded too hot. Handy when sending to outboard for mixing.
GRRRR not getting it should not an VU also react on the low end?
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