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Post by lpedrum on Sept 3, 2019 12:29:51 GMT -6
The Shure SM53 and 54 seem to be their answer to EV's Variable D, lower proximity mic. I could be wrong but I think I'm seeing this Shure on old Don Kirshner Rock Concert videos. Does anyone know why Shure ceased making them? I've been playing for decades but have never seen one on stage. SM53_SM54_and_20Accessories.pdf (250.55 KB)_
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Post by svart on Sept 3, 2019 12:52:12 GMT -6
Like anything else, it's gotta come down to cost vs. sales.
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Post by Guitar on Sept 3, 2019 12:53:42 GMT -6
I really like the SM59, too. Haven't tried this one.
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 3, 2019 13:03:45 GMT -6
The Shure SM53 and 54 seem to be their answer to EV's Variable D, lower proximity mic. I could be wrong but I think I'm seeing this Shure on old Don Kirshner Rock Concert videos. Does anyone know why Shure ceased making them? I've been playing for decades but have never seen one on stage. _ Probably because they were wildly unpopular. I've owned a few back in the day - used to find them at flea markets for 10 or 15 bucks - but I never liked them. Maybe I'd feel differently now, but my impression at the time was that they sounded thin and just not very good - it seemed like there was something wrong with the ones I had. They also seemed somewhat delicate.
I was a lot younger then and my taste in microphones had not really matured, so I might not feel the same way now.
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Post by lpedrum on Sept 3, 2019 13:11:39 GMT -6
The Shure SM53 and 54 seem to be their answer to EV's Variable D, lower proximity mic. I could be wrong but I think I'm seeing this Shure on old Don Kirshner Rock Concert videos. Does anyone know why Shure ceased making them? I've been playing for decades but have never seen one on stage. _ Probably because they were wildly unpopular. I've owned a few back in the day - used to find them at flea markets for 10 or 15 bucks - but I never liked them. Maybe I'd feel differently now, but my impression at the time was that they sounded thin and just not very good - it seemed like there was something wrong with the ones I had. They also seemed somewhat delicate.
I was a lot younger then and my taste in microphones had not really matured, so I might not feel the same way now.
I guess it's possible that when you take away the proximity boost of a Shure capsule it just doesn't sound that good!
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 3, 2019 13:14:38 GMT -6
Probably because they were wildly unpopular. I've owned a few back in the day - used to find them at flea markets for 10 or 15 bucks - but I never liked them. Maybe I'd feel differently now, but my impression at the time was that they sounded thin and just not very good - it seemed like there was something wrong with the ones I had. They also seemed somewhat delicate.
I was a lot younger then and my taste in microphones had not really matured, so I might not feel the same way now.
I guess it's possible that when you take away the proximity boost of a Shure capsule it just doesn't sound that good! It's also not in the same capsule family as the SM58/SM57/545/565.
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Post by chessparov on Sept 3, 2019 13:18:04 GMT -6
IIRC the SM53 was used for the "gang vocals", on "I Just Want To Celebrate" (Rare Earth), per Bob O. Pete Rivera STILL sounds great BTW. Chris
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 3, 2019 15:08:53 GMT -6
IIRC the SM53 was used for the "gang vocals", on "I Just Want To Celebrate" (Rare Earth), per Bob O. Pete Rivera STILL sounds great BTW. Chris As I said, there's a possibility that the ones I had might have been damaged, which might be why they ended up at the flea market. But the fact that they were relatively fragile for a Shure dynamic may have contributed to their lack of popularity.
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Post by chessparov on Sept 3, 2019 18:36:27 GMT -6
Yes, fragile. Chris
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Post by shoe on Sept 3, 2019 20:33:28 GMT -6
It's hard to say, sometimes, why certain mics aren't popular. Like the Unidyne IV is one of my favorites for guitar cabs, but for some reason they were apparently not very popular. According to Shure when I asked them for some maintenance info, anyway.
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Post by Guitar on Sept 3, 2019 21:06:05 GMT -6
545SD is also very under the radar, and easy to find. In a lot of ways they are a better guitar cab mic than the standard SM57. Same or lower price sometimes. SM59 as well is pretty fantastic as I already stated, and sometimes can be found cheaply.
People get so caught up on what's standard sometimes. It's a familiarity you can get trapped inside if you don't consciously look for other ways out.
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Post by chessparov on Sept 3, 2019 22:41:03 GMT -6
I suspect the current 545, has slightly better fidelity, due to it having copper inside. Chris
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Post by shoe on Sept 4, 2019 18:53:42 GMT -6
545SD is also very under the radar, and easy to find. In a lot of ways they are a better guitar cab mic than the standard SM57. Same or lower price sometimes. SM59 as well is pretty fantastic as I already stated, and sometimes can be found cheaply. People get so caught up on what's standard sometimes. It's a familiarity you can get trapped inside if you don't consciously look for other ways out. Shhh. I haven't finished amassing those.
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Post by Ward on Sept 5, 2019 6:14:30 GMT -6
I'm waiting for vintage AKG C1000s to skyrocket in price.
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Post by svart on Sept 5, 2019 6:22:05 GMT -6
Hmm. I bought a 545 once due to all the love they get. Found it to be a very dull SM57, similar to a transformerless 57. Didn't really care for it and sold it a few year later for a profit.
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Post by cyrano on Sept 5, 2019 6:59:22 GMT -6
I'm waiting for vintage AKG C1000s to skyrocket in price. It might happen. I've seen a few of these advertised as "vintage" lately... As for the question "Why did Shure stop selling those mics?"; you may call me simple, but it's probably because they didn't sell. I follow old mics for sale and I'd never heard of these. That probably means there's not much of them around, especially this side of the pond.
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Post by iamasound on Sept 5, 2019 9:32:28 GMT -6
Why did they cease production? I'm not quite shure!
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Post by soundintheround on Sept 5, 2019 11:06:59 GMT -6
SM-57 is the reason.
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