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Post by soundintheround on Aug 25, 2019 18:52:24 GMT -6
I liked the 176 better. Does a great job and nails that controlled and fat yet transparent thing. The 175 tries to bring the grit, but I just think you can only do so much of that ITB.
Wish the GUI was a little bigger tho.
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Post by soundintheround on Sept 5, 2019 10:12:29 GMT -6
Drew is there any possibility that UA will be adding functionality to add a Room EQ curve to their Apollo Console? I think with the success of Sonarworks, there are many more people out there now using Room EQ in their studios. It would be great if we could at a minimum insert something like a Cambridge EQ across the entire Apollo output to implement a curve like this. Currently I have to do this on every channel I record (to approximate my Sonarworks curve) and its a major PIA. Is this on their radar?
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Post by Drew @ UA on Sept 5, 2019 11:45:43 GMT -6
Product Management is aware of the growing use of things like Sonarworks for sure, but thanks for adding your voice.
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Post by soundintheround on Sept 5, 2019 11:54:37 GMT -6
Product Management is aware of the growing use of things like Sonarworks for sure, but thanks for adding your voice. Doesn't NEED to be Sonarworks, but just a more flexible console with ability to add a Global EQ slot (cambridge EQ) would be great.
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Post by soundintheround on Sept 5, 2019 11:57:54 GMT -6
While at it, please add back the ability of 'Console 1.0' to use hardware as Auxes. We love your plugins and console app but some people still have hardware reverbs. Not sure why they ever took that feature away.
Extra Credit: Add a global varispeed knob to Console. This might be easier said than done, but would be so cool.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 20, 2019 7:25:45 GMT -6
The 176 is just a beast on the drum bus. Exactly what I’m looking for. I used to use an SSL bus comp and then if I wanted some whoosh and dirt, I’d bring in a parallel Zener, but this plug replaces all of that.
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Post by Drew @ UA on Nov 20, 2019 10:42:37 GMT -6
One of the coolest things about the 176 is how well it works on ANYTHING you put it on.
Our 176 and Distressor, might be the ONLY comps you need. Distressor when you want a more mid forward aggressive vibe with all the Attack and Release control you could ask for, and the 176 for when you want slick hifi compression with a fast attack to control transients.
If you're going for a retro vibe and/or want your comp to add a bit of "DeEssing", try the 175 with its darker character.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 20, 2019 15:59:23 GMT -6
One of the coolest things about the 176 is how well it works on ANYTHING you put it on. Our 176 and Distressor, might be the ONLY comps you need. Distressor when you want a more mid forward aggressive vibe with all the Attack and Release control you could ask for, and the 176 for when you want slick hifi compression with a fast attack to control transients. If you're going for a retro vibe and/or want your comp to add a bit of "DeEssing", try the 175 with its darker character. Only thing I wish it had was a HPF sidechain
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Post by saltyjames on Nov 20, 2019 17:27:07 GMT -6
I would be knee deep in UA if it wasn't for the mixer interface on the converters. It's just too annoying with the DAW, Interface, actual analog mixer. It's like I never stopped clicking. I use a Presonus 4848 now just for the ease of use and, I came to find, it sounds great.
Any hope for a UA interface that has no mixer just straight conversion?
... 32 channels, Dsub, at least one HP out, nice meters.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 20, 2019 17:57:46 GMT -6
I would be knee deep in UA if it wasn't for the mixer interface on the converters. It's just too annoying with the DAW, Interface, actual analog mixer. It's like I never stopped clicking. I use a Presonus 4848 now just for the ease of use and, I came to find, it sounds great. Any hope for a UA interface that has no mixer just straight conversion? ... 32 channels, Dsub, at least one HP out, nice meters. They all have mixed interfaces...what’s different about UA’s?
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Post by saltyjames on Nov 20, 2019 19:05:48 GMT -6
There's a mixer to run the audio through. My 4848 doesn't do this. Yeah, it has s matrix so you can swap i/p 1 to i/p 16 whatever, but there's not a faux digital mixer board layout.
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Post by guitfiddler on Nov 20, 2019 22:35:18 GMT -6
There's a mixer to run the audio through. My 4848 doesn't do this. Yeah, it has s matrix so you can swap i/p 1 to i/p 16 whatever, but there's not a faux digital mixer board layout. No mixer/monitor/on screen mixer before the daw? That’s actually what I want. I’m tired of routing signal through two inputs and two outputs and having two screens, then the plugin screen. I use a lot of outboard, so this would make a lot more sense and probably diminishes latency. Something I’d like to demo. Going back to my Legacy Apogee X series converters I didn’t have to use any on screen mixer for routing. I used just the daw screen. It was nice.
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Post by Drew @ UA on Nov 21, 2019 6:47:54 GMT -6
I would be knee deep in UA if it wasn't for the mixer interface on the converters. It's just too annoying with the DAW, Interface, actual analog mixer. It's like I never stopped clicking. I use a Presonus 4848 now just for the ease of use and, I came to find, it sounds great. Any hope for a UA interface that has no mixer just straight conversion? ... 32 channels, Dsub, at least one HP out, nice meters. You do not have to use Console. If you launch it once, config things, and mute the monitoring channels, you can never open it again and just use the I/O in your DAW.
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Post by saltyjames on Nov 21, 2019 8:25:02 GMT -6
I did not know that! Thanks!!
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Post by jeremygillespie on Nov 21, 2019 18:51:47 GMT -6
Ive never actually used console aside from the setup. I’ve got the 16.
One of the main reasons I’ll never use RME anything is because of their “console” which is the biggest piece of garbage I’ve had the displeasure of dealing with.
Coming from older Hd systems and then Hdx, it seemed like the biggest headache and waste of time/brainpower that I had ever had to deal with.
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Nov 23, 2019 18:56:34 GMT -6
Ive never actually used console aside from the setup. I’ve got the 16. One of the main reasons I’ll never use RME anything is because of their “console” which is the biggest piece of garbage I’ve had the displeasure of dealing with. Coming from older Hd systems and then Hdx, it seemed like the biggest headache and waste of time/brainpower that I had ever had to deal with. I agree with you on the RME TotalMix. I think it's one of those things where you either get it or you don't, and I certainly don't. Fortunately, once you figure out your routing you can forget about it. Felt the same about the UAD Console when I had my Apollos. Complete waste of time. Kinda looked cool though.
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Post by LesC on Nov 23, 2019 19:35:48 GMT -6
Wow, I love Totalmix. It's the only thing about RME interfaces that I miss. I'm finding the MOTU stuff very unintuitive, I have to relearn it every time I want to make a change. Once you understand the Totalmix method of select the output then route whatever you want to it, it's so easy and flexible.
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Nov 24, 2019 8:42:31 GMT -6
Wow, I love Totalmix. It's the only thing about RME interfaces that I miss. I'm finding the MOTU stuff very unintuitive, I have to relearn it every time I want to make a change. Once you understand the Totalmix method of select the output then route whatever you want to it, it's so easy and flexible. I know... the key is the "Once you understand..." part. I just don't find it intuitive. Anyway, back on topic. Tempted on the 4/$399 UAD deal to pick up the 175/176 combo. I get to the checkout part after adding that, the Chambers, 480L, etc. and then look over the 60+ plugins I have that I really don't use much. Window gets closed at that point. Endless cycle of indecision!
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Post by drsax on Nov 24, 2019 13:21:27 GMT -6
I far prefer UA console to total mix in terms of workflow, but liked the RME routing flexibility
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Nov 27, 2019 22:12:56 GMT -6
Wow, I love Totalmix. It's the only thing about RME interfaces that I miss. I'm finding the MOTU stuff very unintuitive, I have to relearn it every time I want to make a change. Once you understand the Totalmix method of select the output then route whatever you want to it, it's so easy and flexible. I know... the key is the "Once you understand..." part. I just don't find it intuitive. Anyway, back on topic. Tempted on the 4/$399 UAD deal to pick up the 175/176 combo. I get to the checkout part after adding that, the Chambers, 480L, etc. and then look over the 60+ plugins I have that I really don't use much. Window gets closed at that point. Endless cycle of indecision! Well, and with that thought, a latest mix became the 6+ bundle, coupon and the Distressor. I'm weak.
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Post by sirthought on Nov 28, 2019 5:26:30 GMT -6
Well, and with that thought, a latest mix became the 6+ bundle, coupon and the Distressor. I'm weak. Six might be a good move if you can swing the cash. I can't this year, as I'm still paying for the summer bundle I bought. I look back on my UAD purchases and I think I should have just bought the 10+ Black Friday special instead of waiting so long to get one here or there. I've bought so many anyhow and the price per plugin is really smarter when you're getting 13 in the end.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Nov 28, 2019 7:39:16 GMT -6
I need to do a better job of demo’ing plugs before the sales pop up. I never have spare time around the holidays to sit with them and see what’s useful to me - then wind up pulling the trigger on stuff I think will be cool but ultimately don’t wind up using. Sort of frustrating. Maybe that’ll be my New Years resolution this time around!
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Post by guitfiddler on Nov 28, 2019 11:27:39 GMT -6
While at it, please add back the ability of 'Console 1.0' to use hardware as Auxes. We love your plugins and console app but some people still have hardware reverbs. Not sure why they ever took that feature away. Extra Credit: Add a global varispeed knob to Console. This might be easier said than done, but would be so cool. This👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 However I do realize that UA is focusing on eliminating hardware altogether it seems? So it would make sense to eliminate this aux feature for inserting outboard effects, however plugs have come a long way, and demand for hardware is only among what? The top 1%, if that?
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Post by indiehouse on Apr 7, 2020 8:38:44 GMT -6
How is this plug? I saw that UA is having a 50% off storewide right now. Not that I'm looking to spend any money, especially on UAD plugins. Curious to know if this is something special or not.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 7, 2020 8:55:34 GMT -6
How is this plug? I saw that UA is having a 50% off storewide right now. Not that I'm looking to spend any money, especially on UAD plugins. Curious to know if this is something special or not. As far as dirty drumbus, this and the Zener are the kings to me...Also have used it on vocals successfully. It’s really kind of a do it all.
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