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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 25, 2019 12:19:20 GMT -6
I replaced my wife’s Hd with an SSD several years ago and all of a sudden it won’t boot. I can boot with cmd R and it only comes up with Internet Recovery. Does that mean the SSD is dead? Ugh
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Post by kilroyrock on Jul 25, 2019 12:42:22 GMT -6
Has she been dealing with slowness and freezing? That's usually symptoms of an SSD dying. are we looking at pc or apple? that may be where my help may end, but a boot sector sometimes gets erased and needs to be re-written. using a 3rd party "OS on a usb stick" to load and then analyze the drive may give you the best options. I know this works on a pc - www.ultimatebootcd.com/
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Post by sirthought on Jul 25, 2019 13:40:28 GMT -6
I have had SSD drives become corrupted. It can happen especially when they are near to capacity, as they just can't manage their business with the 1s and 0s as easily.
I've had to reformat these drives and thankfully I had the backups to reinstall everything.
Lots of advantages with SSD but they are prone to not lasting like everything else.
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Post by elcct on Jul 25, 2019 13:52:05 GMT -6
Yes I had.
Intel SSD drive bricked - stopped being recognised suddenly. It was quite a new drive about 2 months old. All data from the drive lost (but had backups of most important things). Intel replaced the drive, but I have not used it any more. Can't trust it.
I had another one getting file system errors from time to time (OCZ agility 3) - probably similar issue to yours. I just replaced the drive with a new one and copied the data (I couldn't access some). Couple of times BIOS wouldn't recognise it even.
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Post by NoTomorrow on Jul 25, 2019 13:56:01 GMT -6
Command-R should start from the recovery partition and present you with a menu that allows you to select Disk Utility as well as Internet Recovery. Make sure you're not accidentally holding down Command-Option-R because that will automatically boot into Internet Recovery.
If you are able to Command-R on boot and get the menu, then launch Disk Utility. You can then select your startup volume on the left hand side and run First Aid on the disk.
If that doesn't work and you have another Mac around, like a laptop, and both machines have Thunderbolt ports then you can start the ailing machine in Target Disk mode to mount it as a volume on the other machine. Then install Disk Warrior by Alsoft and rebuild the disk directory on the sick drive.
You can also install Disk Warrior on a Flash/thumb drive using Disk Warrior Recovery Maker and run the directory repair from there.
Disk Warrior is something of a miracle and is best in class. I've used it for years in similar situations to save people's drives, or at least make them bootable again so we could clone the drive/save their disk content.
It obviously won't work if indeed the drive is mechanically failing, but it can solve myriad Mac drive problems if that's what causing boot failure.
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Post by dankin on Jul 25, 2019 13:58:12 GMT -6
I had a OWC SSD die in my tower a few years ago. It was only a few months old. No warning whatsoever.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 25, 2019 14:37:02 GMT -6
Have had great success with Samsung EVO 850 SSDs. But they are not as reliable as spinners in general.
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Post by cyrano on Jul 25, 2019 16:52:21 GMT -6
SSD's will die. Old rust might live a lot longer.
The first generations SSDs weren't very reliable. We also found out that in some rare cases they're even more sensitive to magnetic fields than old rust. I doubt that's what happened in you wife's laptop, though.
If it's a Macbook Pro, it could be the SATA cable. These fail far too often.
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Post by svart on Jul 25, 2019 18:11:25 GMT -6
Not yet but I'm running maybe 6 or 7 of them in various computers.
Most SSDs have monitoring softwares that alert you to the cell wear over time, but they are still susceptible to sudden controller failures just like the old spinning drives.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 25, 2019 19:41:19 GMT -6
Think I figured out it is either a failing graphics card or something to do with Macs Fan Control not having been updated. Still probably time for a new one.
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Post by mcirish on Jul 26, 2019 10:46:17 GMT -6
I still do IT work so I deal with SSDs all day. I have had many fail. Earlier ones failed very quickly. There was no hope for any recovery. Lifespan is going to be based on write cycles of each cell. Controllers now spread out the data to prevent burning up cells. The entire drive then ages more evenly. Typically, I try not to use more than 50-75% max of the storage space, so there is room to shuffle data as cells become unusable. I always keep multiple backups going for any SSD as they usually hard fail and can not be read again. They are a bit finicky but I sure do love the speed.
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Post by jeromemason on Jul 26, 2019 12:01:49 GMT -6
Most likely it's the cable. I've had two go bad in two different generations of MacBooks. You can replace it pretty quick and they sell them on amazon, just find out what model the comp is and type that in followed by HD cable, it'll pull it up.
If it's not booting or started having problems booting it's likely the issue. It's pretty common. Also the monitor cable goes bad quite often and if it's ever had anything spilled near the back of it there are some tabs that touch when the screen is removed, if there's any corrosion at all on those tabs the screen will stop working. I almost bought an entire new display for my 2014 model and accidentally had the thing on when I was removing it, saw the screen flash and found the corrosion, haven't had a problem since, good computers.
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Post by NoTomorrow on Jul 26, 2019 15:30:23 GMT -6
Very often the directory just needs to be rebuilt using Disk Warrior, as I wrote above.
Hardware failures are pretty rare but do happen. I've been fixing all manner of Macs for 19 years.
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Post by Ward on Jul 26, 2019 15:53:37 GMT -6
Back-up everything. Often. Daily if possible.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 27, 2019 19:29:40 GMT -6
Back-up everything. Often. Daily if possible. Yeah. Backblaze now.
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