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Post by MorEQsThanAnswers on Jun 5, 2019 22:22:12 GMT -6
I'm thinking about a 32+ as a next purchase and couldn't help but wonder how useful people are finding Auraverb. The only engineer that I know in-person using an Antelope interface lives and dies by his M7 and 480l, so I've never really been able to get a solid review.
Is it something to get excited about or just an added bonus?
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Post by the other mark williams on Jun 5, 2019 23:38:53 GMT -6
No idea about the Auraverb, but I've heard too many negative stories from Antelope owners about problems with the interfaces to spend my money there. I'm sure the converters sound great, and I'm sure the clock is great, but stability doesn't seem to be the focus at the moment with the interfaces themselves, at least from my observation.
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Post by askomiko on Jun 6, 2019 2:02:46 GMT -6
I have the previous generation Orion. It's an utility reverb if the singer doesn't like monitoring completely dry. Other than that I don't see any use for it.
The interface itself has worked for me. I don't like the launcher-software, but the "anything to anywhere" -routing is great.
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Post by johneppstein on Jun 7, 2019 15:57:09 GMT -6
I have the original Orion 32. I can't say anything about plugins because mine doesn't do that, but I can say I've never had a technical problem with it, at all. However I do have an idea why some people are complaining loudly about having problems.
It's operator error.
Specifically it's operator error from people who think they don't need to read the manual before installing because from what I've head if you DON'T read the manual and follow the printed instructions you will bork your install and will need to call the factory service line to get sorted out. The issue is that you MUST be connected to the internet before and during the installation process and follow the given procedure. If you don't it won't install properly but apparently some software switch gets set in a way that you can't finish and you can't just restart the process.
I had heard about this before I bought my Orion (and read manuals compulsively anyway), so I never had a problem with it. It was a bit of a PITA to have to purchase a 100 foot cable to connect the silly thing to my internet but not by any means a dealbreaker.
Once it's installed you can disconnect the internet connection if you're the sort who prefers the studio computer to have no outside access. (I don't know if the plugins would want to see internet access for normal operation or not.)
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Post by the other mark williams on Jun 7, 2019 18:34:02 GMT -6
I have the original Orion 32. I can't say anything about plugins because mine doesn't do that, but I can say I've never had a technical problem with it, at all. However I do have an idea why some people are complaining loudly about having problems.
It's operator error.
Specifically it's operator error from people who think they don't need to read the manual before installing because from what I've head if you DON'T read the manual and follow the printed instructions you will bork your install and will need to call the factory service line to get sorted out. The issue is that you MUST be connected to the internet before and during the installation process and follow the given procedure. If you don't it won't install properly but apparently some software switch gets set in a way that you can't finish and you can't just restart the process.
I had heard about this before I bought my Orion (and read manuals compulsively anyway), so I never had a problem with it. It was a bit of a PITA to have to purchase a 100 foot cable to connect the silly thing to my internet but not by any means a dealbreaker.
Once it's installed you can disconnect the internet connection if you're the sort who prefers the studio computer to have no outside access. (I don't know if the plugins would want to see internet access for normal operation or not.)
glad yours is working out well! Many of the problems I’ve read about are not operator error. |
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Post by askomiko on Jun 8, 2019 2:28:13 GMT -6
Yup, the worst thing is they can push updates that update automatically and break the software. I've disabled internet access for the Antelope software for this reason. They've improved in last two years though.
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Post by johneppstein on Jun 8, 2019 13:57:18 GMT -6
I have the original Orion 32. I can't say anything about plugins because mine doesn't do that, but I can say I've never had a technical problem with it, at all. However I do have an idea why some people are complaining loudly about having problems.
It's operator error.
Specifically it's operator error from people who think they don't need to read the manual before installing because from what I've head if you DON'T read the manual and follow the printed instructions you will bork your install and will need to call the factory service line to get sorted out. The issue is that you MUST be connected to the internet before and during the installation process and follow the given procedure. If you don't it won't install properly but apparently some software switch gets set in a way that you can't finish and you can't just restart the process.
I had heard about this before I bought my Orion (and read manuals compulsively anyway), so I never had a problem with it. It was a bit of a PITA to have to purchase a 100 foot cable to connect the silly thing to my internet but not by any means a dealbreaker.
Once it's installed you can disconnect the internet connection if you're the sort who prefers the studio computer to have no outside access. (I don't know if the plugins would want to see internet access for normal operation or not.)
glad yours is working out well! Many of the problems I’ve read about are not operator error. Such as?
The complaints I've seern have all been about driver problems - specifically drivers that just don't work. That's likely operator error causing a bad installation. Tjhere are an awful lot of people out there who think that they're good enough so that they don't need to read the manual on something as "simple" and "routine" as installing a new converter. Sometimes it just ain't so.
It IS true that the installation process is a bit more complicated, even slightly arcane, than should be necessary, but it's really not a problem if you approach the process without preconceptions and bother to read the instructions before commencing.
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Post by johneppstein on Jun 8, 2019 14:01:18 GMT -6
Yup, the worst thing is they can push updates that update automatically and break the software. I've disabled internet access for the Antelope software for this reason. They've improved in last two years though. I never allow anything, once working, to update automatically. And I very rarely allow anything to update when the update in brand new - I prefer to allow others to discover that a new update is flawed before I think about installing. |
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