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Post by Vincent R. on Jun 6, 2019 19:13:12 GMT -6
I’m almost to the point of just selling everything and a bunch of outboard to buy a reissue 67. I’m tired. I’m supposed to demo the H47 tube soon. What is it you're looking for? Is the Upton not doing good for you? I know you had it out there if someone wanted to purchase it. Is there a reason you're dissatisfied? I know you've gone through a bunch of mics over the years; Wunder, Peluso, etc. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 6, 2019 20:02:01 GMT -6
I’m almost to the point of just selling everything and a bunch of outboard to buy a reissue 67. I’m tired. I’m supposed to demo the H47 tube soon. Didn't you try my u47 last time I was up there? I don't think so... |
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Post by sean on Jun 6, 2019 20:10:05 GMT -6
Microphones are tough. Sometimes the one that sounds amazing one session sounds like brittle dog shit the next. I went though that with my recently acquired RMS269...it sounds really harsh to me with a couple female singers but with a softer male voice it beat out my Bock 241 and 49. So, maybe you just need two microphones that are voiced differently enough that when one doesn’t work, there’s a good chance the other will.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 6, 2019 20:14:00 GMT -6
Microphones are tough. Sometimes the one that sounds amazing one session sounds like brittle dog shit the next. I went though that with my recently acquired RMS269...it sounds really harsh to me with a couple female singers but with a softer male voice it beat out my Bock 241 and 49. So, maybe you just need two microphones that are voiced differently enough that when one doesn’t work, there’s a good chance the other will. I hear you...but money and all lol. |
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Post by chessparov on Jun 6, 2019 20:20:04 GMT -6
U99 is even a little smoother, vs. U67 RI for crooners. Cheaper too!
Good thing I noticed the phone Autospell on "crooners". It had changed that word to "coroner's"!
Chris
P.S. I agree with Ward, on the H47 FET.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 7, 2019 7:51:49 GMT -6
sean said, "maybe you just need two microphones that are voiced differently enough that when one doesn’t work, there’s a good chance the other will".
That's exactly what I'm trying to achieve. The Soyuz O-19 is a great all rounder. It's gorgeous on acoustic guitar and stands up side by side to the best vintage mics. Being FET though, as a general reference, it's closer to a U87 sound than a 67. I'm awaiting delivery of the newer version of the Stam SA67 with the Tim Campbell capsule. Being a tube mic, between that and the Soyuz, I should have things covered when looking for a great lead vocal sound.
Even with my own voice, there are times the Soyuz sounds great and times it's not working. It could be the way I sing in the key and range of that particular song, so I'd love to have two great choices.
I also have an Avantone BV-12 that needs a minor power supply repair, but I'm considering making some modifications. It sounds kind of like a C12 to me, and that can come in quite handy sometimes. When I recorded my previous album, "Watching the Days Fall", I used a U87 on all the tracks except one. On that track, the AKG 414 just sounded better, so having a couple of viable choices sure seems necessary.
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Post by Ward on Jun 7, 2019 8:15:50 GMT -6
I’m almost to the point of just selling everything and a bunch of outboard to buy a reissue 67. I’m tired. I’m supposed to demo the H47 tube soon. That and a EF806s will cover most everything. A KM84 and a Heiserman 47 will cover everything else. |
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Post by plinker on Mar 5, 2020 18:28:43 GMT -6
Forgot to insert the soundcloud track. I edited it in. Chessaparov. Do yourself a big favor and look at the Lewitt 540 before you buy anything 414-ish. It's like a real 414, but with an improved low end. I really like my Lewitt 540 mic. I got mine on closeout (it's the original 540, not the new Subzero one or whatever) but I'd still pay the list price for a new one they're that good. I recently bought the new Lewitt 540S -- then liked it so much that I bought another because, well, I roll like Noah's Ark.
It's uncanny how versatile and quiet that mic is!
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 15, 2020 21:37:42 GMT -6
Ok. Here we go. Big thanks to mike for letting me check this guy out.
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Post by ragan on Mar 15, 2020 22:05:39 GMT -6
Been quite awhile since I demo'd it but I thought the WA47 was a nice mic.
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Post by chessparov on Mar 16, 2020 1:37:53 GMT -6
Weird, yet true... My (specific) Oktava 319 sounds pretty darn similar, to the WA-47. At least as close as Larry David is to Bernie, on SNL!  Gotta love those inconsistent, mid period/"McKay" Oktava 319 Production runs. Maybe there's even a little secret Ruskie tube, hiding in there somewhere.  Chris |
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 17, 2020 14:39:58 GMT -6
It is a nice microphone to my ears. Though customers are continually calling it "dark", I guess they are to used to the; "overly hyped treble boosted K-67 style without the negative feedback network "thing"" It probably is "dark" to ears damaged by earbudz. And a lot of youngsters think an original U47 is dark, anyway.
"Youngsters" being relative....
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 17, 2020 14:41:34 GMT -6
Microphones are tough. Sometimes the one that sounds amazing one session sounds like brittle dog shit the next. I went though that with my recently acquired RMS269...it sounds really harsh to me with a couple female singers but with a softer male voice it beat out my Bock 241 and 49. So, maybe you just need two microphones that are voiced differently enough that when one doesn’t work, there’s a good chance the other will. More than two. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 17, 2020 15:25:47 GMT -6
I wouldn't call it a dark mic. Then again, I wouldn't call a real U47 a dark mic. They're thick mics, but open. I've been playing around with the Warm WA47 a bit over the last few days. It’s a hyped mic. It’s sounds enormous with a huge low end, but it’s seems to jump out of the recording more than the FleA 47 or even the SAE48 I had in here earlier this year. Those mics have a smoothness to them. They are a bit more refined. The FleA of course has the best balance of lows, highs, and natural compression. It’s interesting. Still, for $600 on the used market this mic is crazy and in a pinch would work. It reminds me a bit of my old CM49, but with a giant low end.
It’s got a higher max spl than a real U47 or the FleA, kind of like my Peluso 2247LE did. Could be nice on brass. I recorded the trumpets for Granada with my Peluso... actually that’s what it reminds me of, the Peluso with a weird extended low end and with a more rolled off top. There is a quality that a lot of these mics have, a cheapness when compared to higher end mics especially in the top end. It's probably the capsule. There are some nice clips of the WA47 with Neumann's current K49 on Zen Pro's website, but once you make this mic 2k there are so many other mic options to choose from and debate about.
I'm supposed to get the new Advanced Audio CM47LE in here to demo and I'm hoping to shoot these two out. Hopefully all that's going on won't delay that. It's the perfect time to make some new shoot out videos. lol.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 17, 2020 15:42:14 GMT -6
Bowie has a nice tube swap for the WA47.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 17, 2020 15:55:13 GMT -6
Bowie has a nice tube swap for the WA47. What tube is that? I tried a NOS GE tube in this one here. It accentuated both the low end and high end. I'm not sure it was better than the stock JJ, just different. If anything I found the JJ a little more even. |
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Post by popmann on Mar 17, 2020 16:28:57 GMT -6
Is that the one they used a 5751 and raised the value of old stock to where I can't afford them for my amps any more?
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 17, 2020 17:37:50 GMT -6
Is that the one they used a 5751 and raised the value of old stock to where I can't afford them for my amps any more? Yup. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 17, 2020 17:46:11 GMT -6
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Post by Guitar on Oct 6, 2021 6:29:26 GMT -6
I just got a WA47JR here, too cheap not to try. chessparov you have one of these right? I'm still trying to figure out what I think of it. It's definitely kind of rolled off on the top, and pretty bulky in the lows/mids. Has a little bit of that K47 3-4 KHz presence to it. It has "character." That's what interests me. I've heard these are capsules from 3U Audio but I'm not 100% positive. On voice and acoustic guitar I think I prefer my RK12 mic (AKG style), but this WA47JR does sound pretty good in front of my kick drum. Maybe I'll try bass amp, guitar amp? I hear these microphones like horns but I don't play any. It looks good, the shockmount is nice, it's a nice package. Although it's lacking a hard case. |
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Post by chessparov on Oct 6, 2021 8:34:06 GMT -6
Yes! Chris
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Post by Vincent R. on Jun 27, 2022 11:29:40 GMT -6
A little overdue, but here it is.
This is a companion video to my SAE48. Watching both should give you a handle on how this mic really performs.
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Post by chessparov on Jun 27, 2022 13:16:50 GMT -6
Warm has that 'ol Vinyl record vibe. Signal Art's more clarity, and a cool bottom end. In the $2K and under Sweepstakes. Thanks, Chris |
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Post by keymod on Jun 27, 2022 13:42:50 GMT -6
Warm has that 'ol Vinyl record vibe. Signal Art's more clarity, and a cool bottom end. In the $2K and under Sweepstakes. Thanks, Chris My Signal Arts should be arriving this week. |
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Post by chessparov on Jun 27, 2022 14:23:53 GMT -6
Awesome! Chris |
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Gotta love those inconsistent, mid period/"McKay" Oktava 319 Production runs.
