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Post by ericn on Jun 6, 2019 9:49:38 GMT -6
I've had this happen to me too. If I hit the buy button, I'm bound by a contract to pay for it, so why do sellers get to cancel a purchase without repercussions just because they wished they got more money? It's bullshit. Because it’s gotten harder and harder for these sites to attract sellers and they really really want more of the traditional stores to sell on their sites, but make no effort to develop a system that will talk to sales and inventory software. Example say JK sets up a realgear storefront on reverb selling stuff he has on the shelf and also has listed on his own site, EBay etc. if he sells his last SM57 on his site or some where else he has to remember to go on reverb and remove it, or if his physical inventory is off he needs to be able to easily suspend the sale. This gets really hard to keep up for a place like Sweetwater, FullCompass or B&H even harder for the likes of Alto with multiple locations. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 6, 2019 10:28:09 GMT -6
The universe must be telling me something. Went to pay online for the one here in Nashville and they sold it.
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Post by ericn on Jun 6, 2019 10:35:37 GMT -6
The universe must be telling me something. Went to pay online for the one here in Nashville and they sold it. It’s saying maybe have a talk with Barbaric or Chad and see what $700 will get me! |
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Post by ml on Jun 6, 2019 10:46:33 GMT -6
I’ve been seeing this mic everywhere lately, really tempted to pick one up along with the wa-251. Anyone own both?
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 6, 2019 10:48:01 GMT -6
John, the WA47 is not bright. I think by bright, you mean in the sense of the Chinese capsule bright, which is actually harsh and typically not right in the low end. The WA47 doesn't have those issues. The thing the higher priced mics do have is more clear low level details, but so far IME that takes 2G's minimum to get.The Soyuz 0-19, Blackspade UM-17B, Max Mod 67, Chandler REDD, and soon, the Stam SA67 all have it. There may be others, but I haven't tried them all.
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Post by ragan on Jun 6, 2019 11:24:12 GMT -6
The universe must be telling me something. Went to pay online for the one here in Nashville and they sold it. It’s telling you people don’t wanna let go of their WA-47s and when one is available it sells fast.  |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 6, 2019 11:31:43 GMT -6
The universe must be telling me something. Went to pay online for the one here in Nashville and they sold it. It’s telling you people don’t wanna let go of their WA-47s and when one is available it sells fast. Stoooop. |
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Post by chessparov on Jun 6, 2019 12:21:03 GMT -6
It'sss not bright jussst trussst me. Essy decision!  Chris |
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Post by drbill on Jun 6, 2019 12:26:32 GMT -6
The universe must be telling me something. Went to pay online for the one here in Nashville and they sold it. It’s telling you people don’t wanna let go of their WA-47s and when one is available it sells fast. Hahaaaaa |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 6, 2019 12:29:03 GMT -6
I’ve been seeing this mic everywhere lately, really tempted to pick one up along with the wa-251. Anyone own both? I do. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 6, 2019 12:31:04 GMT -6
It'sss not bright jussst trussst me. Essy decision! Chris Are you implying the wa47 is too bright and has a sibilance problem ? Not in my experience at all. |
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Post by chessparov on Jun 6, 2019 12:33:42 GMT -6
You're right. It's one of the best LDC's I've ever tried to avoid sibilance. Please forgive me, I was jussst kidding!
(I went back and put "a smile-ly" on that post)
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Post by Vincent R. on Jun 6, 2019 12:46:51 GMT -6
I've had this happen to me too. If I hit the buy button, I'm bound by a contract to pay for it, so why do sellers get to cancel a purchase without repercussions just because they wished they got more money? It's bullshit. Because it’s gotten harder and harder for these sites to attract sellers and they really really want more of the traditional stores to sell on their sites, but make no effort to develop a system that will talk to sales and inventory software. Example say JK sets up a realgear storefront on reverb selling stuff he has on the shelf and also has listed on his own site, EBay etc. if he sells his last SM57 on his site or some where else he has to remember to go on reverb and remove it, or if his physical inventory is off he needs to be able to easily suspend the sale. This gets really hard to keep up for a place like Sweetwater, FullCompass or B&H even harder for the likes of Alto with multiple locations. Yeah, I bought a pair of Lauten Audio St-221 Torches last week on reverb from a small music store and got an email the next day apologizing, but it had been sold in store a month ago and no one updated Reverb. He was nice about it, but it was disappointing. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 6, 2019 14:03:35 GMT -6
You're right. It's one of the best LDC's I've ever tried to avoid sibilance. Please forgive me, I was jussst kidding! (I went back and put "a smile-ly" on that post) Chris No shit? |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 6, 2019 14:11:32 GMT -6
I had other ldc ‘s that were sibilant. I don’t find the wa47 sibilant at all. I think my mk-47 with the blue Thiersch cap and nos rca tube had more presence and depth(maybe too much?), but the wa47 is similar ?
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Post by the other mark williams on Jun 6, 2019 14:25:57 GMT -6
I've been interested to try one of these out, too.
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Post by chessparov on Jun 6, 2019 14:29:18 GMT -6
John, the WA47 is not bright. I think by bright, you mean in the sense of the Chinese capsule bright, which is actually harsh and typically not right in the low end. The WA47 doesn't have those issues. The thing the higher priced mics do have is more clear low level details, but so far IME that takes 2G's minimum to get.The Soyuz 0-19, Blackspade UM-17B, Max Mod 67, Chandler REDD, and soon, the Stam SA67 all have it. There may be others, but I haven't tried them all. John, IMHO this is a brilliant post by MJB, that largely echoes my (much more limited) experience too. My "exceptions" to this, within the "Neumann-ish" sound under 2K, are the new U195 bright-ish but not harsh, when set flat. It's essentially a hot rodded U87 platform-HUGE transformer-upper mid bite removed & smoothed mids-with a C12-ish top end IMHO. And the Heiserman H47 FET (really amazing actually). I'm one of those who dug the "10KHz area", of the TG, "transparent" rather than too bright on me. But that may be moot, because the TG has it's own vibe(s). The AA's seem to be quite a bargain, but I prefer a more retro/less clean sound. WA-47 is definitely retro! Chris |
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Post by the other mark williams on Jun 6, 2019 14:35:44 GMT -6
John, the WA47 is not bright. I think by bright, you mean in the sense of the Chinese capsule bright, which is actually harsh and typically not right in the low end. The WA47 doesn't have those issues. The thing the higher priced mics do have is more clear low level details, but so far IME that takes 2G's minimum to get.The Soyuz 0-19, Blackspade UM-17B, Max Mod 67, Chandler REDD, and soon, the Stam SA67 all have it. There may be others, but I haven't tried them all. John, IMHO this is a brilliant post by MJB, that largely echoes my (much more limited) experience too. My "exceptions" to this, within the "Neumann-ish" sound under 2K, are the new U195 bright-ish but not harsh, when set flat. It's essentially a hot rodded U87 platform-HUGE transformer-upper mid bite removed & smoothed mids-with a C12-ish top end IMHO. And the Heiserman H47 FET (really amazing actually). I'm one of those who dug the "10KHz area", of the TG, "transparent" rather than too bright on me. But that may be moot, because the TG has it's own vibe(s). The AA's seem to be quite a bargain, but I prefer a more retro/less clean sound. WA-47 is definitely retro! Chris My U195 was harsh to my ear, but it was an original run from years and years ago, back when it used a different capsule. |
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Post by chessparov on Jun 6, 2019 16:17:30 GMT -6
Yes, I think this was a big reason why David B. redesigned the U195, with the new smoother/super detailed capsule.
You get an extra capsule inside that U195 BTW, very cool!
I'm hyper-sensitive to esses and breathiness, on my voice.
That's the main reason I posted any AKG 200 acapella vocals online. If that microphone could sound good on me (with processing), the relatively less bright U195 would be "in like Fynn"!
IMHO if more Pop/Modern R&B/Rap AE's listened to the new U195, it'd take a big bite out of U87ai and Sony 800G sales. FAT switch for deeper voiced singers.
Chris
P.S. As much as I love the Bock line and 47's... My other favorite is the U99-tied with the Bock 67 (a bit out of my $$ range).
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Post by Ward on Jun 6, 2019 18:44:05 GMT -6
Ah, ok, so it's not a direct clone of the u47fet.. doesn't sound like my thing at all then. I don't know if you've heard ... but our friends mdmitch2 and tskguy Heiserman have come up with the only improvement on a U47 FET I've ever heard . . . and I own 2 Neumann U47FETS and 2 H47FETS. The Hesiermen win. The U47 sound faithfully with a little 350 notched out. and smidge of 2k and a dash of 4K boost. That's the one you want. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Jun 6, 2019 18:57:45 GMT -6
This is interesting. I know you had a Peluso 2247SE at one point Johnkenn. Below is a shoot out with clips between a few WA mics and others, including the 2247LE and the WA47.
The Key is here:
The Peluso sounds a bit bigger, but also a bit more open. I've used the Peluso 2247LE and owned the Peluso 2247SE. Picking up the SE was a mistake in my opinion, as the LE was much more even and had a bigger low end.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 6, 2019 19:03:15 GMT -6
I’m almost to the point of just selling everything and a bunch of outboard to buy a reissue 67. I’m tired.
I’m supposed to demo the H47 tube soon.
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Post by mdmitch2 on Jun 6, 2019 19:08:14 GMT -6
Ah, ok, so it's not a direct clone of the u47fet.. doesn't sound like my thing at all then. I don't know if you've heard ... but our friends mdmitch2 and tskguy Heiserman have come up with the only improvement on a U47 FET I've ever heard . . . and I own 2 Neumann U47FETS and 2 H47FETS. The Hesiermen win. The U47 sound faithfully with a little 350 notched out. and smidge of 2k and a dash of 4K boost. That's the one you want. Thanks for the kind words -- glad you're enjoying the mics!! |
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Post by svart on Jun 6, 2019 19:08:52 GMT -6
Ah, ok, so it's not a direct clone of the u47fet.. doesn't sound like my thing at all then. I don't know if you've heard ... but our friends mdmitch2 and tskguy Heiserman have come up with the only improvement on a U47 FET I've ever heard . . . and I own 2 Neumann U47FETS and 2 H47FETS. The Hesiermen win. The U47 sound faithfully with a little 350 notched out. and smidge of 2k and a dash of 4K boost. That's the one you want. Actually no, I didn't know! Interesting. I don't really *need* one.. buuut.. |
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Post by svart on Jun 6, 2019 19:09:58 GMT -6
I’m almost to the point of just selling everything and a bunch of outboard to buy a reissue 67. I’m tired. I’m supposed to demo the H47 tube soon. Didn't you try my u47 last time I was up there? |
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