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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 3, 2019 13:43:08 GMT -6
Was mixing a couple of tunes and thought the vocals sounded killer. Smooth, rich midrange...asked what the vocal mix was and it was a freaking Warm 47. Guess I need to hear it.
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Post by Vincent R. on Jun 3, 2019 14:02:18 GMT -6
Yeah, I’ve heard some nice clips of it. For the price it sounds really good.
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Warm 47
Jun 3, 2019 14:12:58 GMT -6
Post by chessparov on Jun 3, 2019 14:12:58 GMT -6
It's my favorite of all the Warm line, that I sang/tried at the last NAMM. I'd glad Chad clarified that the stock tube was OK, and shouldn't overheat the internals. I still would hang it upside down! Definitely had Mojo. I could say "game changer" instead, but that's so 2017!  Chris |
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Post by ragan on Jun 3, 2019 14:31:56 GMT -6
I liked the one I checked out.
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Post by adamjbrass on Jun 4, 2019 13:17:38 GMT -6
It is a nice microphone to my ears. Though customers are continually calling it "dark", I guess they are to used to the; "overly hyped treble boosted K-67 style without the negative feedback network "thing""
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Post by chessparov on Jun 4, 2019 13:32:24 GMT -6
IMHO the "better" stock and modded Oktava 219/319's rival the Warm 47 though. Similar vintage vibe, just more "ribbon-ish".
Chris
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Post by ragan on Jun 4, 2019 13:47:27 GMT -6
I've had 3 or 4 each of the 219 and 319 and, while kinda cool, they all sound pretty hard bordering on brittle on vocal transients. I dunno, maybe I just haven't happened upon a "good" one in all those. None of the ones I've had have been in the league of the 3U and/or Warm stuff. They're voiced in a cool way, but the texture isn't what I want it to be.
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Post by teejay on Jun 4, 2019 14:10:06 GMT -6
Would be interesting to hear what you think of Chad's Signal Art 47, JK. While the Warm gets good reviews and obviously sounded great on what you're working on, I don't believe Chad considers it a "real" 47. If he worked that one and it sounds so good, his own boutique version should be stellar. I've seen several posters comment on theirs here and on other sites, but sound clips are limited at this point.
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Warm 47
Jun 4, 2019 14:14:42 GMT -6
Post by svart on Jun 4, 2019 14:14:42 GMT -6
Anyone try the 47jr, AKA; the 47fet clone?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 4, 2019 14:52:39 GMT -6
It is a nice microphone to my ears. Though customers are continually calling it "dark", I guess they are to used to the; "overly hyped treble boosted K-67 style without the negative feedback network "thing"" Holy crap. Then sign me up. |
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Warm 47
Jun 4, 2019 15:00:00 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 4, 2019 15:00:00 GMT -6
A “real” 47: ha, which clone is that ?  |
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Warm 47
Jun 4, 2019 15:15:37 GMT -6
Post by chessparov on Jun 4, 2019 15:15:37 GMT -6
I've had 3 or 4 each of the 219 and 319 and, while kinda cool, they all sound pretty hard bordering on brittle on vocal transients. I dunno, maybe I just haven't happened upon a "good" one in all those. None of the ones I've had have been in the league of the 3U and/or Warm stuff. They're voiced in a cool way, but the texture isn't what I want it to be. As we know, yes there were some strong variances, during what today would be the "mid-production run" (McKay era). Oddly enough my two "excellent" Oktava's, an excellent "bright/clear" 219 and an exceptional "dark" 319 respectively, were manufactured then. Supposedly the early one's, and the current 319, are manufactured with closer specs. I'd be curious "what era" McIrish's (exceptional) 319 was made in. I think for a more advanced recordist than me (like yourself), and/or someone who records a variety of instruments, the 3U line or Warm can be a more pragmatic choice than the used 219/319's. If you have the time/inclination, you can buy a used Oktava from Guitar Center (45 day return polic), and you can try one out-if you know what to listen for though. Chris |
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Post by adamjbrass on Jun 4, 2019 15:18:54 GMT -6
It is a nice microphone to my ears. Though customers are continually calling it "dark", I guess they are to used to the; "overly hyped treble boosted K-67 style without the negative feedback network "thing"" Holy crap. Then sign me up. I have a demo here if you want to try before buying. |
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Post by chessparov on Jun 4, 2019 15:22:54 GMT -6
The Warm 47jr. was underwhelming for me. Made my voice sound "smaller than life"-Polar opposite of what I look for in a 47 tube/or FET style microphone. Whereas I preferred the Heiserman H47 FET (slightly) over the mighty Neuman U47 FET RI, they put next to it, at the NAMM Heiserman booth. I think this is a magnificent achievement for Eric Heiserman, It'd be a VERY tough choice to choose between the H47 FET, and the Bock IFet (another mic I love!).
BTW I've never tried the Lawson line, although AFAIK they are well regarded.
My instinct is 6 micron though, for "fuller tone" over Lawson's 3 micron "clarity".
Chris
P.S. Sorry if I seem too hard, on the Warm 47jr. I really wanted to like it! The Roswell Mini-K47 sounded much better (very nice!).
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Post by Vincent R. on Jun 4, 2019 15:31:34 GMT -6
Holy crap. Then sign me up. I have a demo here if you want to try before buying. How does it sound next to your new BA-49? |
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Post by adamjbrass on Jun 4, 2019 15:49:53 GMT -6
I have a demo here if you want to try before buying. How does it sound next to your new BA-49? I have not yet A/B'd those. Have not even A/B'd with my U-4700. But from memory, they are NOT the same or even close to the same microphone. |
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Warm 47
Jun 4, 2019 16:32:35 GMT -6
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Post by svart on Jun 4, 2019 16:32:35 GMT -6
The Warm 47jr. was underwhelming for me. Made my voice sound "smaller than life"-Polar opposite of what I look for in a 47 tube/or FET style microphone. Whereas I preferred the Heiserman H47 FET (slightly) over the mighty Neuman U47 FET RI, they put next to it, at the NAMM Heiserman booth. I think this is a magnificent achievement for Eric Heiserman, It'd be a VERY tough choice to choose between the H47 FET, and the Bock IFet (another mic I love!). BTW I've never tried the Lawson line, although AFAIK they are well regarded. My instinct is 6 micron though, for "fuller tone" over Lawson's 3 micron "clarity". Chris P.S. Sorry if I seem too hard, on the Warm 47jr. I really wanted to like it! The Roswell Mini-K47 sounded much better (very nice!). I see. I kinda wanted a fet47 for the whole kick drum thing that it does, but it sounds like this might not do it like the real thing. |
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Warm 47
Jun 4, 2019 16:42:56 GMT -6
Post by chessparov on Jun 4, 2019 16:42:56 GMT -6
There's are three excellent reviews, of the Mini-K47 FWIW... SOS/Tape Op/Harmony Central.
You may also want to consider AA's version of the FET 47, IIRC around $400.
Chris
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Warm 47
Jun 4, 2019 18:37:56 GMT -6
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Post by brenta on Jun 4, 2019 18:37:56 GMT -6
All the clips I’ve heard of the stock Warm 47 sound pretty good. The clips on the clipalator with the Warm 47 and Neumann capsule mod sound really, really good. But of course that doubles the price of the mic. With the Neumann capsule and the stock AMI transformer it has some premium components in it. I don’t know much about that tube type but maybe that could be upgraded to something better as well.
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Warm 47
Jun 4, 2019 18:51:15 GMT -6
Post by teejay on Jun 4, 2019 18:51:15 GMT -6
A “real” 47: ha, which clone is that ? Ha! Valid statement. Intended the quotes to mean the build is not as close as others. The point being Chad has engineered a lot more into his own build to make it as close to the real thing as he believes he can make. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 4, 2019 19:14:08 GMT -6
I understood and merely I ntended it to be humerous. Given the unubtanium aspects of the original materials, I don’t put much truck in anybody’s claims about just like, as we have no brand new original 47’s to compare to, so who has any idea what they actually sounded like new ? We are lucky to have choices at different price points: pick your 47 clone poison ! |
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Post by mike on Jun 4, 2019 19:17:50 GMT -6
All the clips I’ve heard of the stock Warm 47 sound pretty good. The clips on the clipalator with the Warm 47 and Neumann capsule mod sound really, really good. But of course that doubles the price of the mic. With the Neumann capsule and the stock AMI transformer it has some premium components in it. I don’t know much about that tube type but maybe that could be upgraded to something better as well. The tube in the WA47 is a stock 5751 JJ. It actually doesn't sound bad for a new production tube and I agree with the comments here that the WA47 is a good sounding 47 style mic for the money. I actually just tried a 5751 NOS RCA black plate tube in place of the stock one on a WA47 and it sounded even better to me. While you can also use a 12ax7 tube in it also, the mic output signal is already plenty high, so the extra gain a 12ax7 adds over a 5751 is less desirable I think with no pad on the mic |
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Post by mcirish on Jun 4, 2019 20:14:20 GMT -6
I've had 3 or 4 each of the 219 and 319 and, while kinda cool, they all sound pretty hard bordering on brittle on vocal transients. I dunno, maybe I just haven't happened upon a "good" one in all those. None of the ones I've had have been in the league of the 3U and/or Warm stuff. They're voiced in a cool way, but the texture isn't what I want it to be. Were these with or without the mods? Removing the resonator disc off the capsule smooths out some of those odd harmonics. I did all the mods on mine and found them very useful. I don't use them as much anymore but in a pinch they could sub for some much more expensive mics. |
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Post by ericn on Jun 4, 2019 20:55:10 GMT -6
It is a nice microphone to my ears. Though customers are continually calling it "dark", I guess they are to used to the; "overly hyped treble boosted K-67 style without the negative feedback network "thing"" The couple of quick listens had me thinking not bad, but I always kept coming back to the thought I would end up changing the capsule in order to live with it, or just break in and steal your BA 49😁 |
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Warm 47
Jun 4, 2019 21:01:58 GMT -6
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Post by chessparov on Jun 4, 2019 21:01:58 GMT -6
I'm "afraid" to mod my 219/319's, since for the vintage thang-they're excellent as-is that way. But I definitely wouldn't have them as my primary vocal microphones, in either a Commercial Pro Studio, or for Modern Pop/R&B.
Chris
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