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Post by drumrec on Jan 7, 2019 16:38:36 GMT -6
I have not been so active in the stam threads though I wait for my ADG. But I had it in the count when I ordered it in May that it would take a long time. They come when they come and I think I am pleasantly surprised. But this beuauty looks very promising and 30% is a good deal for the compensation of the wait. Think I have to pre-ordered 2. So you have stereo with 4 alt. Looking god 2
All the best Hakan Hansson
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 7, 2019 16:42:12 GMT -6
If you click on last fb link the faceplate has changes to : 4 settings 2a slow and fast (s and f), 3a and 4a.
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Post by drumrec on Jan 7, 2019 16:48:56 GMT -6
If you click on last fb link the faceplate has changes to : 4 settings 2a slow and fast (s and f), 3a and 4a. Yeeee ... that was the one I was thinking about SA23A + Two of them so you can have four options on the stereo bus. Me like 😊
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 7, 2019 16:52:23 GMT -6
shhsss!
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Post by stam on Jan 7, 2019 17:00:07 GMT -6
Another special deal for affected clients: stamaudio.com/sa-800.htmlI hope these low prices make up for all the waiting time, this microphone is our favorite mic. We have 5 products already in stock and we hope to have all of them in no longer than 8 weeks, slowly stocking ourselves with everything needed
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 7, 2019 17:01:58 GMT -6
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Post by Vincent R. on Jan 7, 2019 17:02:01 GMT -6
That 4 in 1 is gonna be irresistible with the delay-discount. Even without the full discount this is dangerous. Now I have to figure out if I can swing the deposit.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 7, 2019 17:02:44 GMT -6
Ha just saw post on fb but stam already posted here
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 7, 2019 18:15:06 GMT -6
Another special deal for affected clients: stamaudio.com/sa-800.htmlI hope these low prices make up for all the waiting time, this microphone is our favorite mic. We have 5 products already in stock and we hope to have all of them in no longer than 8 weeks, slowly stocking ourselves with everything needed What kind of transformer? Says AMI in the blurb and BeesNeez in the bullet points. ...Again, proofreading to avoid questions and confusion.
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Post by stam on Jan 7, 2019 18:32:46 GMT -6
Beesneez, my bad, will correct it today
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Post by brenta on Jan 7, 2019 18:52:56 GMT -6
I’m loving these ideas of putting multiple compressors in the same box. I guess several years of mixing ITB has made me lazy but patching gear has become a hassle and a work flow slower-downer. It’ll be nice to be able to switch between options without patching.
I’ll start saving up now so I have the funds available when it ships in 2020!
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Post by wiz on Jan 7, 2019 19:47:55 GMT -6
I think its a brilliant idea.
cheers
Wiz
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Post by Quint on Jan 7, 2019 20:03:01 GMT -6
Agreed.
I don't think I'd ever need two of these for a stereo pair. But one channel with a 2a and 3a in the same unit with either selectable by a simple switch? Hell yeah.
That just screams versatile (and easy to use) vocal tracking comp. To be able to easily and quickly switch between the two to see what fits the situation is great. At least to me anyway.
I definitely like these new twists on old ideas that Stam has been coming up with. I put a deposit down on an ADG for the same reason. Though now I kind of wish I had reserved two of them now that it looks like they're finally getting ready to drop.
I do still have concerns about whether or not I would be able to get a second ADG which is identical to the one I've already reserved due to the second one likely being from a different batch and potentially having some design differences.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 7, 2019 20:47:14 GMT -6
And the + gives you 2 types of 2a and the 4a, would be very cool as you say on vox and bass.
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Post by drbill on Jan 7, 2019 21:04:39 GMT -6
Personal experiences / thoughts :
1 - I have never seen anyone choose a LA4 when a LA2/3 was available.
2 - Although perhaps my fav or at least ONE of my top fav compressors, I'd never choose a 3a to track vocals with over a 2a.
Random thoughts....
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Post by wiz on Jan 7, 2019 21:06:33 GMT -6
Personal experiences / thoughts : 1 - I have never seen anyone choose a LA4 when a LA2/3 was available. 2 - Although perhaps my fav or at least ONE of my top fav compressors, I'd never choose one to track vocals with over a 2a. Random thoughts.... I have a LA4. i use it for vocals all the time, paired with rightish mics it can sound great. i also have 2 la2a’s and 2 sta’s And a la3a.... so there ya go...now you know one person 🙂 cheers Wiz
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Post by Quint on Jan 7, 2019 21:08:53 GMT -6
And the + gives you 2 types of 2a and the 4a, would be very cool as you say on vox and bass. I'm not sure if the + version interests me or not. I've never used a 4a and I don't know if the extra options (two versions of the 2a and a 4a) would be something I would want. The 2a and 3a are definitely flavors I like and I think they would cover a ton of ground for vocal tracking. The thing is that the simplicity of each of those individual units (2a and 3a) is a huge part of the appeal, and I could say the same about those two units in one box. It would still be very simple and more or less a binary choice between the two. However, four options in one box might be counterproductive to the whole reason I'd have an interest in something like this in the first place. I'm just looking at this as a one stop shop for vocal tracking compression and I still would want it to remain as something that doesn't create too much option paralysis. But I can see how someone might like all four options if they were wanting to use this for a variety of sources. I still would like to know which version (60s vs 70s) of the 2a will be included in the non-plus version. It would make the most sense to me that the 2a version which is most different from the 3a would be the version which would be included in the non-plus version. So my preference would be the 60s 2a combined with the 3a. Maybe Josh can elaborate.
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Post by drbill on Jan 7, 2019 21:08:55 GMT -6
Personal experiences / thoughts : 1 - I have never seen anyone choose a LA4 when a LA2/3 was available. 2 - Although perhaps my fav or at least ONE of my top fav compressors, I'd never choose one to track vocals with over a 2a. Random thoughts.... I have a LA4. i use it for vocals all the time, paired with rightish mics it can sound great. i also have 2 la2a’s and 2 sta’s And a la3a.... so there ya go...now you know one person 🙂 cheers Wiz Awesome!! Glad to meet your acquaintance Mr. LA4 guy!!! "Why" do you choose the 4 over your 2a's? (You just got your 3 right?) Maybe the 2a/3a vs 4 is an LA thing.....
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Post by Quint on Jan 7, 2019 21:16:33 GMT -6
Personal experiences / thoughts : 1 - I have never seen anyone choose a LA4 when a LA2/3 was available. 2 - Although perhaps my fav or at least ONE of my top fav compressors, I'd never choose a 3a to track vocals with over a 2a. Random thoughts.... Sometimes the 3a is just right for vocals, especially if you're wanting something that isn't quite as colored as a 2a. I like the option for either in one box, especially at that price.
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Post by Quint on Jan 7, 2019 21:19:22 GMT -6
I have a LA4. i use it for vocals all the time, paired with rightish mics it can sound great. i also have 2 la2a’s and 2 sta’s And a la3a.... so there ya go...now you know one person 🙂 cheers Wiz Awesome!! Glad to meet your acquaintance Mr. LA4 guy!!! "Why" do you choose the 4 over your 2a's? (You just got your 3 right?) Maybe the 2a/3a vs 4 is an LA thing..... Same question here. What do you like about the LA4 versus the 2a/3a for vocals? How about that comparison on other sources?
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Post by hadaja on Jan 7, 2019 21:30:01 GMT -6
I will go one step further. I have a modded LA5 and i like this as a colour box for accoustic guitar and other sources. Just makes everyhting sound a little vintage with the selectable ratio switches.
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Post by wiz on Jan 7, 2019 21:48:23 GMT -6
The LA4 has a different tone to the 2 and 3.
It’s compression action is different (obviously)
Best way to explain it.... I have a stellar cm5 microphone, it’s a bright microphone, the LA4 gives it a really expensive tone where as the la2s can exaggerate its sound in an unpleasant way.
Most of the time I am looking for how compressors affect the tone of the source, more so than compression per se...
Cheers
Wiz
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 7, 2019 21:51:36 GMT -6
So - just to clarify, this is going to be a seriously heavy box... Three sets of input and output transformers, inner stage tranny, 2 different opto’s (the attack and release times on the originals are set by the opto), etc. what’s the shipping going to be?
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Post by Quint on Jan 7, 2019 22:28:15 GMT -6
So - just to clarify, this is going to be a seriously heavy box... Three sets of input and output transformers, inner stage tranny, 2 different opto’s (the attack and release times on the originals are set by the opto), etc. what’s the shipping going to be? I would assume that there aren't dedicated transformers for every i/o. Maybe even relays might be used to switch between those parts of the circuit which are different versus those parts of the circuit which are redundant? Just speculating here, but I'm guessing there aren't multiple completely independent circuits inside. Why have duplicative parts if switches/relays can make certain parts of the circuit pull double duty? Not that I've seen the inside of the ADG either, but I kind of figured there was something similar going on inside the ADG as well. It would make sense to do so from the standpoint of cost and weight.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 7, 2019 23:14:47 GMT -6
So - just to clarify, this is going to be a seriously heavy box... Three sets of input and output transformers, inner stage tranny, 2 different opto’s (the attack and release times on the originals are set by the opto), etc. what’s the shipping going to be? I would assume that there aren't dedicated transformers for every i/o. Maybe even relays might be used to switch between those parts of the circuit which are different versus those parts of the circuit which are redundant? Just speculating here, but I'm guessing there aren't multiple completely independent circuits inside. Why have duplicative parts if switches/relays can make certain parts of the circuit pull double duty? Not that I've seen the inside of the ADG either, but I kind of figured there was something similar going on inside the ADG as well. It would make sense to do so from the standpoint of cost and weight. Yes, it makes sense from cost and weight. But then we aren’t talking about 4 different units. It becomes an approximation of what The 4 units actually are. I’m fairly certain (please correct me If I’m wrong, it’s been a while since I’ve opened these units) that none of them share the same in/out tranny’s, and the way the 2a and 3a achieve their release time is through the opto unit (t4b, t4c, etc). Even a quick look on Sowter’s page shows different spec output transformers for the 2a and 3a...
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