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Post by EmRR on Jan 5, 2019 13:09:27 GMT -6
If they're both fully inside, why not add a second set of Jack's and controls, so they can be used independently? <thumbsup> Agreed. Although I'm not sure how you can add either a 3a or 2a for $100..... When you add a 3A circuit board to a 2A, use the same T4B element, and add the switching to move between the added 3A board and the 2A board. May or may not be any transformer sharing, not even gonna spend time on that question. Certainly not all of them.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 5, 2019 13:47:13 GMT -6
When was the last time you held any other manufacturer to this type of scrutiny? Should we be asking about where Audioscape keeps his money or Dave from AA? I can’t help but feel like their is some mob mentality here against Stam. Other manufacturers don't encourage this kind of scrutiny. The scrutiny is a reaction to his problematic business model. At the root of the scrutiny are the delays on top of delays on top of delays, the long list of excuses, and the subpar communication skills. Any company operating that way is going to get plenty of scrutiny. In this case, the scrutiny is well earned.
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Post by 000 on Jan 5, 2019 14:55:43 GMT -6
When was the last time you held any other manufacturer to this type of scrutiny? Should we be asking about where Audioscape keeps his money or Dave from AA? I can’t help but feel like their is some mob mentality here against Stam. Other manufacturers don't encourage this kind of scrutiny. The scrutiny is a reaction to his problematic business model. At the root of the scrutiny are the delays on top of delays on top of delays, the long list of excuses, and the subpar communication skills. Any company operating that way is going to get plenty of scrutiny. In this case, the scrutiny is well earned. Maybe it’s just me - but when preordering hot new items from just about anywhere - a few months delay is kinda standard. I’ve always felt Stam was a bit of an underdog who is genuinely making top quality products at a price that puts them in a league of their own. My audioscape gssl is nowhere near the same league as my Stam 1073mpa in terms of perceived build quality. Talking about delays is one thing - but making assumptions about how the business handles money is a little unnecessary. Regardless super stoked on this new unit! It’s going to look/feel/and sound great!
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Post by matt@IAA on Jan 5, 2019 15:21:17 GMT -6
No one is assuming anything about money. You give him a down payment up front. X months (6? 12? 18?) later you give him more money when he says it’s done. Shortly thereafter (1? 5? 30?) days later your item ships.
What he does with the money in the meantime is irrelevant. On his business side he’s taken cash with a promise of a delivery later. I suppose he could be careful and carry an accrual or liability for every single outstanding order, and never ever ever go in the red on that basis... but I suspect that isn’t the case. I suspect he uses the final payment prior to shipment to stay in the green. That’s not an insult or anything. It just means he is essentially financing builds at least in part with preorder payments. If he didn’t need to do this, he could offer preorders at no price to save a spot. Sweetwater takes preorders like this all the time.
Retail companies don’t have the same model. They don’t get any money from you, the consumer, until it ships. They finance their builds themselves, and and product and inventory costs are borne by the company. These are just facts.
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Post by wiz on Jan 5, 2019 15:53:10 GMT -6
I have gotten everything I ordered. Every refund (transfer of deposit to another item) has been processed. Every enquiry I have ever made has been answered Things take longer than I would like, but it happens. Oh, and most importantly, every single piece of gear sounds great and was a bargain. But hey, I am just talking facts, not assumptions ...... Cheers Wiz
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Post by stam on Jan 5, 2019 15:56:23 GMT -6
stam Josh, I wanted to let you know I never got my 1073MPA refund from Camila back in mid-December. Sorry to bring it up here, but as it appears you’re reading this thread, I thought I’d contact you this way. Please PM your PayPal email address Will get on it right away, my apologies
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 5, 2019 16:01:17 GMT -6
Other manufacturers don't encourage this kind of scrutiny. The scrutiny is a reaction to his problematic business model. At the root of the scrutiny are the delays on top of delays on top of delays, the long list of excuses, and the subpar communication skills. Any company operating that way is going to get plenty of scrutiny. In this case, the scrutiny is well earned. Maybe it’s just me - but when preordering hot new items from just about anywhere - a few months delay is kinda standard. I’ve always felt Stam was a bit of an underdog who is genuinely making top quality products at a price that puts them in a league of their own. My audioscape gssl is nowhere near the same league as my Stam 1073mpa in terms of perceived build quality. Talking about delays is one thing - but making assumptions about how the business handles money is a little unnecessary. Regardless super stoked on this new unit! It’s going to look/feel/and sound great! Your remarks/diversions about quality are non-sequiturs, as is your remark to me as to how Josh handles money. No one is casting aspersions about the quality of Stam's gear and I made no remarks about how he handles his business' money. As for a few months delay being "kinda standard," I'd ask for examples that meet the same level of consistent repeated multiple delays as we've seen from Stam, not just on a product or two, but across nearly his entire product line. Once you've compiled that list, whittle it down to the companies who, after subjecting their customers to multiple failures on projected delivery dates, then give attitude to their customers for being frustrated and annoyed. One example... the original delivery date for the ADG was July 2018. Then it was pushed to August, then September, then October, then November, then December, then January 2019, and they're still not out the door. People who purchased ADG units last May have been told SEVEN different delivery dates, none of which have been true. You said "a few months delay is kinda standard." Seven months is well past "a few months." If you want to defend him, have at it, but please be truthful when you do it. More to your point about delays being "kinda standard." I've preordered things that involved delays. I have a Hendy DaVinci channel strip that I had to wait on. Chris Hendy was upfront about the wait and delivered when he said he'd deliver. After purchasing an Audio-Scape Opto I decided I wanted a second. I contacted Chris Yetter and he told me he was waiting on some parts but could have it for me in a few weeks. He delivered in a few weeks. I've ordered custom built guitars and bouzoukis both inside and outside the US and had to wait. Again, the builders were upfront about the wait time and delivered when promised. I'm not unaccustomed to waiting on orders. The issue is NOT the waiting. The issue is the deception repeated deceptions as to delivery dates on multiple products. Josh has not been wronged (as you've implied). I've seen no one here engage in any unprovoked, unjust, or undeserving criticism of Josh or his business practices. All his wounds are self-inflicted.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 5, 2019 16:37:51 GMT -6
I think I will just officially change my name to Polly Anna, as I was so hoping in the new year, we could all double down, me included, put the past behind us: be the sky not the clouds and just discuss the new Stam gear. Anybody got some prime land in FLA they are having trouble selling inexplicably: sign me up !
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Post by stam on Jan 5, 2019 16:42:54 GMT -6
I think I will just officially change my name to Polly Anna, as I was so hoping in the new year, we could all double down, me included, put the past behind us: be the sky not the clouds and just discuss the new Stam gear. Anybody got some prime land in FLA they are having trouble selling inexplicably: sign me up ! +1
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Post by lcr on Jan 5, 2019 18:33:26 GMT -6
Everybody needs a K dogg.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 5, 2019 18:46:54 GMT -6
So very true, she is a lovely spirit with a generous, knowing and magnanimous nature. I have learned so much from her. Attachment Deleted
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 5, 2019 19:25:36 GMT -6
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Post by matt@IAA on Jan 5, 2019 19:32:58 GMT -6
I’d take a picture of mine but she’s a rescue and has always been afraid of phones and cameras.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 5, 2019 19:47:05 GMT -6
I’d take a picture of mine but she’s a rescue and has always been afraid of phones and cameras. What is her most endearing quality?
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 5, 2019 20:51:42 GMT -6
I haven't taken a grown up size step in my house in years. And there's a recent edition not in this picture.
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Post by matt@IAA on Jan 5, 2019 21:00:02 GMT -6
I’d take a picture of mine but she’s a rescue and has always been afraid of phones and cameras. What is her most endearing quality? She is just the calmest gentlest pup ever.
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Post by bram on Jan 6, 2019 0:53:04 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 6, 2019 1:01:44 GMT -6
Jackson Browne.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 6, 2019 5:25:46 GMT -6
The dawg pics are great! Such personality, Dogs so epitomize being in the moment and unconditionality: well as long as you share your 🥩!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 5:31:36 GMT -6
who let the dawgs out...
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Post by drsax on Jan 6, 2019 9:49:10 GMT -6
I think I will just officially change my name to Polly Anna, as I was so hoping in the new year, we could all double down, me included, put the past behind us: be the sky not the clouds and just discuss the new Stam gear. Anybody got some prime land in FLA they are having trouble selling inexplicably: sign me up ! +1. Well said. My thoughts exactly.
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Post by jakeboy on Jan 6, 2019 10:02:25 GMT -6
So do we have any idea what the “new” gear will be? Josh has hinted a few times but I don’t think he got specific.... I am very excited for my Stam orders to arrive!!
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 6, 2019 10:54:14 GMT -6
FB pic above show a 2a and 3a in one chassis: interesting.
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Post by lcr on Jan 6, 2019 13:25:50 GMT -6
Yeah yeah cute doggs.. can we get back on track of only positive Stam praise and hot sauce?
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Post by lcr on Jan 6, 2019 13:27:43 GMT -6
Kidding.. Dogs are great and so is Stam.
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