Bart HRK?

Interesting, I wonder how the eq sounds.

I'm not really sure how Antelope has their summing section set up in the Satori, but whatever they do whether it's active, buffered or passive.... That's they best sounding summing mixer I've ever heard. I'm not sure how they do it like I said, but there's a lot of electronics in that box and when you get into amplifiers and active summing mixers, if they don't have a killer design with a really extreme amount of headroom, they just sound flat to me.

The BLA PM8's..... I raved about them until I did a mix ITB and heard all the missing dynamics. It was the input transformers limiting that one. With Passive types the loading can make your mixes seem small if the preamps after them are not ok with that kind of load. I hope all that makes sense, but honestly the only summing mixers I'll vouch for anymore is the one in the Antelope Satori because I own it and can say with certainty that it rocks.

Or wait...Bart HRK does make a summing mixer, maybe you saw that and were just posting about summing in general.

The DB25 on the front kills it fo me. No dice.

Well, that's the only option really, isn't it?

FWIW, I wasn’t intending the thread to be just about the summing thingy. I guess that’s the first image on the main page. I was just curious about the whole line. Hadn’t ever heard of it.

An analog summing bus in one 500 space? I dont care how ugly or hipstery or unprofessional I look. The sound samples beat plugins from what I listened to. And it’s cheaper than some of them, and prebuilt.. wow!

A passive analog summing bus is literally resistors. That’s all that it is... a DB25 connected to resistors, followed by a line amp.

Edit to say - looks like they’re using an IC op amp for the balanced input. So add some chips like an INA134 to that chain.



Not knocking it. It’s a cool idea. But I have a hard time believing there’s any particular magic or mojo in passive summing that you couldn’t get by running your in-the-box-summed mix out through an attenuator or pad followed by a line amp or mic pre.

Plus since it’s passive the panning is accomplished by jumpers internally so you get the correct drop for a center channel. I suppose you have pre-set mix needs, but pulling the card to change jumpers to pan a channel sounds like a headache to me.

I think summing in a 500 format is a round peg in a square hole.

Neve consoles passive summed. Nothing wrong with it at all.

Actually though, I looked again and they say they’re active summing using an “British” op amp. So it is active. But I don’t know what they’re using to drive the output, just says discrete.

So ignore everything I said except the bit about the jumpers haha

DIYRE passive summing mixer is a better deal. Which I like. The capi sumbus is the ultimate summing mixer though.

Funny though I just looked through everything there. Was interesting looking stuff but nothing that made me want to buy anything..not sure why. I guess because every one I knew if another company making pretty much the same thing but it's much more well know and considered great sounding.

Well Don, since it was Sunday my normal coffee shop, a Man bun free zone and it’s in the lobby of my building, was closed. So we braved the cold to head over to Starbucks where the hipster barista who had a knit watch cap covering his man bun was talking about
“ how old school retro cool the fact that the new Liam Niesen film trailer uses that old song with The cowbell “
I thought my wife was going to lose it like I did the time he said “ the RE20 is the greatest acustic guitar mic because it’s an LDC” He’s a producer like everybody who works at Starbucks and where’s a black watch cap over his man bun with Clark Kent Glasses.

I got the 4-channel Colour processor on sale.  I got a few of the British flavored console Colour modules, and they sound great.  I've got two of the DIYRE Colour paletes filled up, and the Bart HRK ones can give a different flavor.