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Post by drbill on Dec 5, 2018 14:07:06 GMT -6
Been on PT for 20 years and have never experienced latency wonkiness. Right, but you use Avid interface, right? Yes. Avid / Digi interfaces.
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Post by Ward on Dec 5, 2018 15:48:42 GMT -6
Right, but you use Avid interface, right? Yes. Avid / Digi interfaces. I idn't either untl the past 60 days. Time to trash all the preference files, the interface files, the Digi audio/midi interface settings etc and rebuild it I guess.
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Post by spradingaling on Dec 6, 2018 21:21:02 GMT -6
I use both pretty interchangeably, but prefer working in Cubase overall. Automating pretty much anything is quicker, slip editing is the bees knees, and I get at fewer hiccups. If you work with MIDI at all, it’s probably the best program out there to use.
Things I prefer in PT: grouping random tracks to my hearts content, multitrack elastic audio in the edit window, the smart tool, import session data.
Beat detective is par between the two, but I think PT has better transient detection. C10 was supposed to improve that, but I’m still on 9.5.
Is there anything in particular you want to know about or compared?
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 7, 2018 14:14:21 GMT -6
I use both pretty interchangeably, but prefer working in Cubase overall. Automating pretty much anything is quicker, slip editing is the bees knees, and I get at fewer hiccups. If you work with MIDI at all, it’s probably the best program out there to use. Things I prefer in PT: grouping random tracks to my hearts content, multitrack elastic audio in the edit window, the smart tool, import session data. Beat detective is par between the two, but I think PT has better transient detection. C10 was supposed to improve that, but I’m still on 9.5. Is there anything in particular you want to know about or compared? How is the learning curve on Cubase? I think that's my biggest fear. I've used Pro Tools for so long now that it's basically muscle memory. I think I'm transitioning more into creating and less of working for other people. It's just where I'm at in life with really young kids and a day gig. So, just wondering if working in Cubase is more inspiring? I see myself working with midi a lot more. I've been picking up a lot of VI's lately. I guess I'm curious about how big your preference to Cubase is? I mean, if it isn't a huge difference to work in one over the other, I might as well stick with what I already know, which honestly, my brain is telling me I should. But, my curiosity says to switch things up.
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Post by spradingaling on Dec 7, 2018 15:22:09 GMT -6
I use both pretty interchangeably, but prefer working in Cubase overall. Automating pretty much anything is quicker, slip editing is the bees knees, and I get at fewer hiccups. If you work with MIDI at all, it’s probably the best program out there to use. Things I prefer in PT: grouping random tracks to my hearts content, multitrack elastic audio in the edit window, the smart tool, import session data. Beat detective is par between the two, but I think PT has better transient detection. C10 was supposed to improve that, but I’m still on 9.5. Is there anything in particular you want to know about or compared? How is the learning curve on Cubase? I think that's my biggest fear. I've used Pro Tools for so long now that it's basically muscle memory. I think I'm transitioning more into creating and less of working for other people. It's just where I'm at in life with really young kids and a day gig. So, just wondering if working in Cubase is more inspiring? I see myself working with midi a lot more. I've been picking up a lot of VI's lately. I guess I'm curious about how big your preference to Cubase is? I mean, if it isn't a huge difference to work in one over the other, I might as well stick with what I already know, which honestly, my brain is telling me I should. But, my curiosity says to switch things up. I don't think the learning curve is that big, and there's a really good Cubase community on YouTube go over functionality. I don't know if it's more inspiring to work it, but certainly less frustrating at times. My preference for Cubase isn't huge, there's a lot I really like about PT they haven't and probably won't implement, but I would definitely pick it as my one DAW to rule them all. If you're interested in seeing how it handles midi, check out these out: Go to Dirk Ehlert's profile and he does a bunch of these, plus a tutorial on setting up Kontakt and VEPro in Cubase. In case you wanted to see a pretty decent explanation of the different ways to edit drums. He has a bunch of other Cubase specific videos, too. A that being said and watched, if you're comfortable in PT and nervous about switching, don't switch. Work and have fun using what you know. Alex
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 7, 2018 15:31:21 GMT -6
How is the learning curve on Cubase? I think that's my biggest fear. I've used Pro Tools for so long now that it's basically muscle memory. I think I'm transitioning more into creating and less of working for other people. It's just where I'm at in life with really young kids and a day gig. So, just wondering if working in Cubase is more inspiring? I see myself working with midi a lot more. I've been picking up a lot of VI's lately. I guess I'm curious about how big your preference to Cubase is? I mean, if it isn't a huge difference to work in one over the other, I might as well stick with what I already know, which honestly, my brain is telling me I should. But, my curiosity says to switch things up. I don't think the learning curve is that big, and there's a really good Cubase community on YouTube go over functionality. I don't know if it's more inspiring to work it, but certainly less frustrating at times. My preference for Cubase isn't huge, there's a lot I really like about PT they haven't and probably won't implement, but I would definitely pick it as my one DAW to rule them all. If you're interested in seeing how it handles midi, check out these out: Go to Dirk Ehlert's profile and he does a bunch of these, plus a tutorial on setting up Kontakt and VEPro in Cubase. In case you wanted to see a pretty decent explanation of the different ways to edit drums. He has a bunch of other Cubase specific videos, too. A that being said and watched, if you're comfortable in PT and nervous about switching, don't switch. Work and have fun using what you know. Alex Sweet. Thanks dude.
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Post by Tbone81 on Dec 7, 2018 16:08:22 GMT -6
For what it’s worth, the Cubase GUI is very easy to customize. Spend 20 min tailoring it to you preference and creating custom key commands and macros and you can have it looking and functioning very similar to pro tools.
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Post by Ward on Dec 9, 2018 12:51:14 GMT -6
Is Logic still a player in all this?
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Post by popmann on Dec 9, 2018 17:07:35 GMT -6
Is Logic still a player in all this? Player? They lead the market in content creation tools. I'd easily put them third in that line up for audio engineering UNLESS the "test" involves only using the built in plug ins. Apple knows engineers and studios are history. Growth market is people creating music inside their computer--NOT using their computer to record music. Not semantics.
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Post by Ward on Dec 10, 2018 6:57:16 GMT -6
Is Logic still a player in all this? Player? They lead the market in content creation tools. I'd easily put them third in that line up for audio engineering UNLESS the "test" involves only using the built in plug ins. Apple knows engineers and studios are history. Growth market is people creating music inside their computer--NOT using their computer to record music. Not semantics. The pendulum is swinging back the other way. More and more clients are coming to me (and many other studios/producers/professional engineers) for help because they can't get the results they want. We're not dead yet! If anything, I think we're coming back to life. YMMV
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Post by ericn on Dec 17, 2018 10:04:06 GMT -6
Player? They lead the market in content creation tools. I'd easily put them third in that line up for audio engineering UNLESS the "test" involves only using the built in plug ins. Apple knows engineers and studios are history. Growth market is people creating music inside their computer--NOT using their computer to record music. Not semantics. The pendulum is swinging back the other way. More and more clients are coming to me (and many other studios/producers/professional engineers) for help because they can't get the results they want. We're not dead yet! If anything, I think we're coming back to life. YMMV I think there is a distinct group of musicians that is beginning to realize the learning curve and tools to do it right just isn’t worth it. As an industry though we are cutting our own throats with all the guys who bought some cool tools rented a poorly treated or simply a poorly chosen space and call it a studio.
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Post by Guitar on Dec 18, 2018 14:48:58 GMT -6
I think Cubase would be pretty easy to get the hang of.
Maybe I take it for granted but it seems pretty straightforward in most regards.
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Post by Omicron9 on Dec 19, 2018 9:19:01 GMT -6
Slightly OT, but not entirely. I am currently making the move from Mac/Logic to Windows/Reaper. So far, so good. I like Reaper at least as much as Logic thus far, and am finding it's more customizable.
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Post by michaelcleary on Dec 21, 2018 17:13:45 GMT -6
when I 1st went in the box a few years ago I tried protools. It was pretty intuitive and I picked it up pretty easily having never used a daw before. An engineer friend from Boston encouraged me to try Cubase and it took me longer to figure out but it had some things that PT didnt that I liked, lanes and variaudio are two things I use all the time, and I preferred the built in plugs. I havent switched to version 10 yet but have the latest up to that version and no issues. As someone else mentioned, it has features I haven't used yet as it is deep. And when I say deep, I mean deeeeeeeeep. From the customizations to the midi and scoring features as well as sampling and editing features I am still discovering, its a deep dive daw. Lots of youtube vids, look for Greg Ondo vids and he does a monthly Q and A called club cubase. Tons of support as well as the steinberg forum. Try it, you'll like it. mc
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Dec 23, 2018 17:38:31 GMT -6
The only real "growth market" is video!
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 23, 2018 20:52:44 GMT -6
The only real "growth market" is video! That’s how I make my bread and butter. Video is my day gig.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 26, 2020 13:36:03 GMT -6
Thought for sure there was a Cubase 10.5 thread...but can't find it. Weird. Anyway, I wanted to report that 10.5.15 might be the most stable DAW I've ever worked on.
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Post by popmann on Mar 26, 2020 16:36:53 GMT -6
V10 is not nearly as bulletproof as v6 was on windows or OSX for me...was that your experience with v10, and 10.5 fixed that glitch on OSX? ...or was 10 just as stable?
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 26, 2020 16:40:37 GMT -6
V10 is not nearly as bulletproof as v6 was on windows or OSX for me...was that your experience with v10, and 10.5 fixed that glitch on OSX? ...or was 10 just as stable? No - 10 crashed a lot on Mac for me
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Post by popmann on Mar 26, 2020 19:49:52 GMT -6
Appreciate it. I think it was actually 9.5 I tried to use on the MacBook and couldn't keep it up a whole session without it crashing. When I bought 10...I only put it on the Windows tower. It doesn't "crash" at all really...but, I feel like it's doing all kind of weird things--like the other day I had a VSTi "rack" instrument that I could PLAY....but, I couldn't open or edit it. Just oddness.
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Post by Ward on Mar 27, 2020 14:31:06 GMT -6
OK . . . so how is the latest version of Cubase with Avid HD i/o interfaces and cards? Also, do all current PT plugins work with the latest version of Cubase?
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Post by ericn on Mar 27, 2020 14:42:18 GMT -6
OK . . . so how is the latest version of Cubase with Avid HD i/o interfaces and cards? Also, do all current PT plugins work with the latest version of Cubase? Will it even work ? Will it use the DSP and provide low latency?
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 27, 2020 16:09:58 GMT -6
OK . . . so how is the latest version of Cubase with Avid HD i/o interfaces and cards? Also, do all current PT plugins work with the latest version of Cubase? Yeah - i didn’t think Avid products worked with anything else.
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Post by ericn on Mar 27, 2020 17:23:21 GMT -6
OK . . . so how is the latest version of Cubase with Avid HD i/o interfaces and cards? Also, do all current PT plugins work with the latest version of Cubase? Yeah - i didn’t think Avid products worked with anything else. It might, but not low latency. Many many years ago around PT5 they all pretty much worked on TDM, but AVID burnt that bridge.
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Post by soundintheround on Mar 27, 2020 20:09:45 GMT -6
I’m on Cubase 9.5 and I have no intentions to switch anytime soon. I love that DAW. (Although we will all be on Luna eventually anyways right?)
If I went back in time, maybe I would have chosen Pro-Tools...but I really like the ‘Studio’ / ‘control room’ or whatever they call it. Let’s you do speaker selection in the DAW and apply different room eq curves to each speaker/etc. Makes it so you don’t have to worry about remember to turn off the Somarworks.
I used to have a presonus central station, but I swear it was messing with the sound.
Cubase has a very workable external hardware insert solution (wish they would improve it slightly) and the tempo detection / hit points is something I use fairly often too.
Midi (although not using a ton these days) is the best in that program in terms of latency issues/etc when dealing with external units, at least in comparison to logic.
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