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Post by cowboycoalminer on Oct 5, 2018 6:36:25 GMT -6
Jon, I’ve been admirer of your company for some time. Have used your mics on drum rooms at Sharkbite in Oakland, but that’s it. Which model has that 50-60hz or so bump? Hey thanks! I feel really fortunate to have great studios and people I admire using my mics over the years. Of the three models I currently make, the 46U has just a bit more low end bloom than the other two models. It has to do with how the transformer is wound. Regards Jon I was wondering about the differences in the transformers. Do you have an audio sample comparison of the three? That high/low pass filter looks great BTW. I think this is the first module I've seen that does only that. And I've been looking that for years. And here it is.
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Post by schmalzy on Oct 5, 2018 15:50:07 GMT -6
Hey, Jon! No rant detected! Marketing? Maybe a little...but not in a bad way! You see: we're all in the market for great microphones and - with all the cool mics out there - we need to be informed of what's out there and need details regarding the what/why of all the different options. If you were "Shmarketing" in the way many companies do I'd be annoyed. You've decided to inform the market rather than throw buzz-words at the market. I appreciate that. I mentioned your mic because I've heard great things but haven't heard one first hand. Thanks for coming in and differentiating your product in an informational and enlightening way! Also, stick around! We talk about mics and all things related to 'em a lot. The audio community always seems better when the people making the products are existing alongside people using the products!
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Post by ulriggribbons on Oct 8, 2018 9:21:08 GMT -6
I was wondering about the differences in the transformers. Do you have an audio sample comparison of the three? That high/low pass filter looks great BTW. I think this is the first module I've seen that does only that. And I've been looking that for years. And here it is. I don't really do sound samples, as it's subject to so many variables (room, source, tilt of the earth =) ). I think the best approach for clips is probably the ZenPro clipilator, which has my mics www.zenproaudio.com/clipalator. Here would be my basic transformer difference breakdown, 14 years in. Keep in mind, these differences are not as big as switching to a different microphone. What I describe is hard to measure given the current way we measure microphones. If you compare the frequency response of the microphones in the datasheets, they look mostly the same (and yes, I had an independent company shoot my mics), but if you spend time with them, what I describe below is there, and has been corroborated by many engineers over the years. The 46MXC has a really nice, musical tone to it. It leans the most in direction of the RCA ribbons I own, in terms of coloration. This is not to say it's an RCA mic, but when you side by side them, you hear it. The 46MXL has a really nice openness to it. It's not "bright", like I've heard in a few of the active ribbons I've checked out, but the first thing that jumps out at you is the high frequency response (it's actually high and low frequency extension). This mic is the most similar to the modded 205 mic that I've seen dr. bill tout for years. The 46U is the first custom output transformer I designed. It's on the endangered species list at present (I think I have two left). It leans more in the direction of the 46MXL, but has a slight low frequency boost, kinda like the 4038, but not as extreme. The 46MXC and 46MXL have been around for years, so it's been hard to convince people to go for the 46U. Soon to be discontinued. Both the above descriptions of 46MXC and 46MXL apply to tonal descriptions of the ribbon microphones made with the Cinemag 9888 and Lundahl 2911/2913 transformers, but of course with characteristics imparted by the microphone geometry. ShinyBox was proudly born on the groupdiy (and tech talk, if anyone remembers tech talk) site. I was the first to offer ribbon mics with different output transformer options which some other companies have adopted, and I have the groupdiy community to thank in many ways for the encouragement they gave me early on. RGO is on my forum radar, I do check back when time allows, as I like the discussions and the people. Thanks for discussing things in a way that is respectful, and helpful. It has similar vibe to groupdiy back in the day. Hope my post helps. Regards Jon
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Post by svart on Oct 8, 2018 9:45:47 GMT -6
A mic for kick out that will have a WIDE variety of other uses - Gefell UM70. Usually in fig8. Original M7 cap, can get it RIGHT up on the kick due to lack of huge proximity, and gives a nice THUMP. A touch more than a 121, but infinitely more all around useful IMO. Just something to consider.... Interesting. I didn't quite like my UM70s on kick. I didn't like the 121 on kick either. A good old subkick of some sort always seems to fit the bill for low end thump though.
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