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Post by joey808 on Feb 17, 2014 0:20:52 GMT -6
Next major sale or black friday and I'm buying.
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Post by LesC on Feb 17, 2014 2:15:57 GMT -6
I've been very fortunate, I've used iLok for many years without a problem. I tried getting on the mailing list, got an email to "Please confirm your subscription". Clicking on the link, I get the following message in Firefox: Confirmation Failed: Contact Confirmation not Available and This customer's account is currently not active. I'm hoping maybe the server is having problems, I'll try again in a few hours. |
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Post by henge on Feb 17, 2014 7:20:38 GMT -6
Next major sale or black friday and I'm buying. As stated above they go on sale Feb. 24th. I have to admit to not using the LX480 very much these days. Usually it's the Expo's, VVV or the Lex bundle. 2 out of 3 coded by Mr. Carnes... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2014 8:29:04 GMT -6
I've been very fortunate, I've used iLok for many years without a problem. I tried getting on the mailing list, got an email to "Please confirm your subscription". Clicking on the link, I get the following message in Firefox: Confirmation Failed: Contact Confirmation not Available and This customer's account is currently not active. I'm hoping maybe the server is having problems, I'll try again in a few hours. The mail server is having a little trouble digesting a rather large increase in list size. Hit me through the support link on the website and I'll make sure you're on the list. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 17, 2014 10:07:31 GMT -6
Kellendustries said, "The "community forum" over there is nothing but dead threads, questions with a few vague half-responses but most go unanswered.".
Man, I'm feeling that. I had an unbelievably difficult time getting ReLab to function. First, iLok shut me out of my own sessions. I tried the ReLab demo, bought the plug in before the demo ran out. Never received notice or instructions on installing the real plug, or uninstalling the demo. They said it should be easy because I'd installed the demo, but no… iLok treated me like a thief, and blocked me from opening my sessions, because my demo had run out. Hell, I think that's illegal, and it's coming from a company trying to prevent illegal acts. Why can't iLok simply disable plugs like UAD does? It took me a week to sort it out, after a dozen half assed emails back and forth.
Next, the ReLab's preset design was weird. Instead of presets being available on the GUI, you have to place the presets in a folder, and then it brings up a page with all the presets to choose from. When I couldn't get presets to work, the 'help" I got from ReLab was intermittent and useless. Ten months are buying the ReLab, kcatthedog generously spent an hour on Skype helping me sort it out. Now, everything's fine with ReLab, and it still seems special, and a cut above. But, that said, I'm beginning to notice it's a little heavy handed, and can certainly see that if I had the Exponential, it could become the go to reverb.
I gotta allocate funds wisely though. I have Relab's Verb, the one UAD gives you with the Apollo, I forget the name, some Waves verbs, and 3 or 4 others, plus all of the Apple verbs, one of which is a convolution verb, I think. So, I can get a good reverb sound already, and am looking at getting a few more mics soon.
I might eventually back up to the Exponential, if I'm having a very good month and there's a good sale.
One thing, once the ReLab preset thing is working, it's actually better than most GUI presets, you can see all the banks and presets simultaneously, and get to them faster than standard plug-in presets, but it isn't elegant.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 17, 2014 10:22:45 GMT -6
EA support
I have ua's verbs and relab ( which is really great: a special vibe)
Partly i regret buying relab due to the support differential. I have had reasonably timed and informatively helpful responses from relab but i use protools
I currently host relab in pt11 in a bluecat plug so technically relab does not supply a version i can use stand alone 3-4 years after knowing aax64 was coming
EA on the other hand fully compliant and during the combined sale: its 2 fine verbs were roughly 1/3 more than the relab price
Customer focus and service are big: its not just about plug quality certainly relab is a very very good verb but ,,,
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Post by henge on Feb 17, 2014 10:41:39 GMT -6
Used to think the same way but over time I came to realize the LX480 is just another flavour. Imo the Expos,VVV and the Lex Bundle are just as great at providing ambiances that blend with the source.Not quite sure what Martin's business model is but I prefer Sean Costello and Michael Carnes' support and update schedule waaaaay more.;-) Now, everything's fine with ReLab, and it still seems special, and a cut above. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 17, 2014 10:50:42 GMT -6
I'm coming around to that way of seeing it Anton, but the money's been spent. At one time UAD had a sale, where I could have had their 224XL for $133. I still chose the ReLab at $400, because I thought it was just that much better. I've been guilty of tweaking beyond my means, so in hindsight, I probably should have just gotten the 224XL, and been happy with it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2014 10:55:41 GMT -6
Kellendustries said, "The "community forum" over there is nothing but dead threads, questions with a few vague half-responses but most go unanswered.". Man, I'm feeling that. I had an unbelievably difficult time getting ReLab to function. First, iLok shut me out of my own sessions. I tried the ReLab demo, bought the plug in before the demo ran out. Never received notice or instructions on installing the real plug, or uninstalling the demo. They said it should be easy because I'd installed the demo, but no… iLok treated me like a thief, and blocked me from opening my sessions, because my demo had run out. Hey Martin, Sorry about the elapsed demo blocking your session load. That's a possibility whether it's iLok or many other types of protection. I know this suggestion won't help you with the old problem, but it might help you or someone else in the future. If you run into a "won't load" situation, most of the time you'll be unblocked if you simply uninstall the offending plugin before you launch the session. The workstation doesn't really know about the licensed/unlicensed state of a plug, so it will try to load no matter what. You'll then encounter whatever the plug does when it detects the absence of a license. If you've deleted the plugin (or moved it to an 'unused' folder), the DAW will complain about the plugin being absent, but it should still load. Of course this doesn't help if you were actually planning on using that plug. In that case, you'll have to do whatever's required to get the licensed version on board. But if it's a demo and you weren't planning on purchasing, getting rid of the plug will generally allow that session to load. Michael |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 17, 2014 11:36:35 GMT -6
Thanks Michael. t's only been through some of these minor disasters I've even learned of uninstalling. I left the music business for a long time and my learning curve has been gigantic. Before a year and a half ago, the last time I recorded at home, I pushed play on my reel to reels.
In the ReLab case, I'd purchased the plug, so I needed to use it, and was blocked out. Something similar happened with Slate's FG-X, continually showing up missing, and stopping me from opening up sessions after I'd bought it. Recently, I put a new CD of a project I've done, together with my wife on iTunes and CD Baby. There are quite a few steps between having finished tracks, and them being available for sale online. After a few emails back and forth, I received a step by step set of instructions from CD Baby, that was so perfectly laid out, all you had to do was follow instructions, and it worked. So often programmers don't realize what they assume, and it's like a beautiful highway with a ten foot hole in it, unless your car can fly, you're stuck.
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Post by LesC on Feb 17, 2014 13:03:26 GMT -6
I've been very fortunate, I've used iLok for many years without a problem. I tried getting on the mailing list, got an email to "Please confirm your subscription". Clicking on the link, I get the following message in Firefox: Confirmation Failed: Contact Confirmation not Available and This customer's account is currently not active. I'm hoping maybe the server is having problems, I'll try again in a few hours. The mail server is having a little trouble digesting a rather large increase in list size. Hit me through the support link on the website and I'll make sure you're on the list. Hi Michael. I just tried again, and it worked fine this time. Thank you for the quick response! |
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Post by LesC on Feb 17, 2014 14:26:42 GMT -6
I'm trying to rationalize my plugins. I just sold my UAD2 with 58 plugins, most of which I didn't use. I may eventually get back into UAD, maybe when they come out with a UAD3 with a form factor that I like, and just get the very few plugins that I could really use.
I'm trying to sell my Waves Mercury + Studio Classics (Native), again I just don't use most of their plugins.
To replace UAD and Waves, I've got most of the plugins from Slate, Elysia, Kush, Hornet VUMeter, 1K Multimedia Amplitube and ARC, and of course the one plugin most universally loved around here, Melodyne. So more than enough compressors and eq for me, the one thing I most need is reverb.
I really appreciate the vendors that are easily accessible, who participate in user forums and contribute valuable knowledge, guys like Jeff Steiger (CAPI), Bryce Young (Warm), Gregory Scott (UBK), Severio Vigni (Hornet), Steven Slate, and a bunch of others that my memory is too poor to think of offhand. And now Michael Carnes. These are the kinds of guys that I want to support when I'm in the market for something and they have a competitive offering.
I was thinking of getting the ReLab stuff based on comments in this forum. I think I'll take a serious look at Exponential Audio now.
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Post by lolo on Feb 17, 2014 17:16:47 GMT -6
Micheal, is there a way to scroll throught the presets?
Thanks
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2014 20:45:25 GMT -6
Micheal, is there a way to scroll throught the presets? Yessir! Once the plugin window has focus, you can use the arrow keys. Up/Down drives you through the keywords and Left/Right drives you through the presets for that keyword. On most DAWs that's all you need. A few will require modifier keys. For example, Cubase needs Shift-Control-Arrow. It's also worth taking a a peek at the preferences. You can set a preference so that a preset loads whenever you select a new keyword (good for auditioning). It can also be set so that a preset doesn't load until you tell it to. That can be useful when you're trying to time the load. Live performance might be a case for that. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 18, 2014 7:47:31 GMT -6
I'm trying to rationalize my plugins. I just sold my UAD2 with 58 plugins, most of which I didn't use. I may eventually get back into UAD, maybe when they come out with a UAD3 with a form factor that I like, and just get the very few plugins that I could really use. I'm trying to sell my Waves Mercury + Studio Classics (Native), again I just don't use most of their plugins. To replace UAD and Waves, I've got most of the plugins from Slate, Elysia, Kush, Hornet VUMeter, 1K Multimedia Amplitube and ARC, and of course the one plugin most universally loved around here, Melodyne. So more than enough compressors and eq for me, the one thing I most need is reverb. I really appreciate the vendors that are easily accessible, who participate in user forums and contribute valuable knowledge, guys like Jeff Steiger (CAPI), Bryce Young (Warm), Gregory Scott (UBK), Severio Vigni (Hornet), Steven Slate, and a bunch of others that my memory is too poor to think of offhand. And now Michael Carnes. These are the kinds of guys that I want to support when I'm in the market for something and they have a competitive offering. I was thinking of getting the ReLab stuff based on comments in this forum. I think I'll take a serious look at Exponential Audio now. I sold a UAD2 card with all of my UAD plugs a while back - still have a satellite. Really only use the LA2A collection and 1176 collection, tape stuff, fatso and some of the verbs...but honestly, I could replace all of them. |
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