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Post by keymod on Sept 14, 2018 15:25:50 GMT -6
Martin, at one point I owned the Drumstrip plugin from SSL which was pretty cool. Had a lot of nice features specifically for mixing drums.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Sept 14, 2018 15:46:14 GMT -6
I don’t see that exact one but mycymbal.com has a ton of HH 21” rides
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 14, 2018 19:55:07 GMT -6
Sometimes I just want the "drummer" to lighten up just a little on a second verse, but it's never quite right. I know, get a real drummer, but I still need to learn how best to improve the sounds I'm getting using SD 2. Maybe you're using the wrong sample set?
I don 't use canned drums myself, but I strongly suggest that you contact Chris Whitten (Edie Brickell and the New Bohemians, Paul McCartney, Dire Straits, etc, etc.) who posts as "Chrisso" on Gearslutz for advice on this. He did several of the Toontracks sample sets and if anyone can help you with this issue it's him. He's a nice guy, too.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Sept 14, 2018 21:10:06 GMT -6
Thanks John, great suggestion.
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Post by the other mark williams on Sept 14, 2018 22:54:57 GMT -6
ragan Martin John Butler sorry I haven't had a chance to reply yet. It's been a particularly difficult few days with Søren. Katrina and I are totally blown out and exhausted, with not much relief in sight. But as soon as I have a few mins to actually sit down and respond properly, I will! I promise! Martin, I'll say this quickly: johneppstein is reiterating the same thing I was saying: check out Chris Whitten's packs. There are two of them: "Custom & Vintage" SDX and "The Classic" EZX. Those are two of my favorites. The Classic has a whole section of kits recorded with a simple 4-mic method. They sound great. I'm pretty sure Peter Henderson recorded both of those expansions. Oh, and Johnkenn : they recorded The Classic with a Helios if I remember correctly.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 14, 2018 23:08:06 GMT -6
ragan Martin John Butler sorry I haven't had a chance to reply yet. It's been a particularly difficult few days with Søren. Katrina and I are totally blown out and exhausted, with not much relief in sight. But as soon as I have a few mins to actually sit down and respond properly, I will! I promise! Martin, I'll say this quickly: johneppstein is reiterating the same thing I was saying: check out Chris Whitten's packs. There are two of them: "Custom & Vintage" SDX and "The Classic" EZX. Those are two of my favorites. The Classic has a whole section of kits recorded with a simple 4-mic method. They sound great. I'm pretty sure Peter Henderson recorded both of those expansions. Oh, and Johnkenn : they recorded The Classic with a Helios if I remember correctly. I have it. Feel like it has been surpassed with several others.
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Post by the other mark williams on Sept 14, 2018 23:25:07 GMT -6
ragan Martin John Butler sorry I haven't had a chance to reply yet. It's been a particularly difficult few days with Søren. Katrina and I are totally blown out and exhausted, with not much relief in sight. But as soon as I have a few mins to actually sit down and respond properly, I will! I promise! Martin, I'll say this quickly: johneppstein is reiterating the same thing I was saying: check out Chris Whitten's packs. There are two of them: "Custom & Vintage" SDX and "The Classic" EZX. Those are two of my favorites. The Classic has a whole section of kits recorded with a simple 4-mic method. They sound great. I'm pretty sure Peter Henderson recorded both of those expansions. Oh, and Johnkenn : they recorded The Classic with a Helios if I remember correctly. I have it. Feel like it has been surpassed with several others. I haven't opened it up in probably 3 years, so I can certainly believe that. I'm planning to do the upgrade to SD3 before the end of the year. Seems like the Massenburg sessions are really versatile.
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Post by ragan on Sept 15, 2018 0:03:57 GMT -6
I bought Custom & Vintage yesterday and I'll use it. There are some nice tones to be coaxed out. That said, on the whole, I think Indiependent out-does it for the vibes I want out of it.
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Post by jampa on Sept 15, 2018 1:55:43 GMT -6
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Post by the other mark williams on Sept 24, 2018 3:32:27 GMT -6
During the making of my last full-length album of original material, I was forced into using SD2 for most of the album. I was living on a desert island in the South Pacific at the time, and really had no other options. I learned a *lot* of tricks to get SD2 to sit right for me. I can go into them over the next couple days, Martin John Butler , but my first question is: what kit(s) are you using? Several of the expansion packs are *far* better at taming the transient attack, and require much less work to sit in the mix. One of my favorites is the "Custom & Vintage" pack. Chris Whitten did a *phenomenal* job playing those kits in a very tight, dry room. The result is very much a "Sea Change" vibe. He hit the drums in a much more real-world way, as opposed to the Nir Z 126-127 snare hits. (Don't get me wrong, Nir Z is a great drummer.) I've long waffled about picking up the Custom&Vintage SDX. Do you have Indiependent? There's some crossover, vibe-wise. Wondering if you've compared them much. The SDX's are on sale right now and I've been tempted to pick up C&V. Also, got a link to your record? Not just for the drums of course, I'd just like to hear it. What's your email address? I'll send the whole album your way, via Hightail, most likely. Would love for you to hear it... EDIT: ok - In fact, if *anyone* wants to hear it, just PM me your email address. I'll give more details about what my "desert island" chain was if any of you would like to hear about it. But if you just want to hear the tunes only, that's cool by me.
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Post by jtc111 on Sept 24, 2018 4:44:00 GMT -6
I have a few transient plug-ins, but never quite wrapped my head around them. I think Fission (or Physion as they're calling it now) might be a huge help to you. It's a pretty amazing plugin and I've found it easy to use. I haven't needed to do exactly what you're describing but I did need to do something a bit similar with a bodhran track some time ago.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Sept 24, 2018 8:11:26 GMT -6
That’s pretty cool, maybe a little more programming than I prefer, but I can see how it would help a lot with the Toontracks smackiness. Thanks Jacob.
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