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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 16:49:16 GMT -6
This is just a pipe dream at this stage but if I can get enough interest I might look into it.. I've not even costed it up, but at this moment the chances of one being built for me seem slimmer every year.. So I could set this up as a pet project.
There seems to be a hole in the sub $10 - 12K mixer segment for a decent "all-in-one".. Would anyone be interested in a 24 X 26 analog Thunderbolt mixer? 6 aux send / returns then / inserts / two "FX" sends with it's own subgroup (two fader additional subs) to send to three pairs of stereo 1176 style compression unit with a Vari-mu on channels 25-26 / probably lundahl transformers on the output channels? Of course PFL, wedge / monitor routing will be an option.. Four of the aux's would be post fader the other two pre-fader..
Digital routing on / off on all channels and you could record post / pre EQ.
I would try to use the best components I could get my hands on, ESS Sabre Ultra's DAC's for example.. Pre-amps? Well I'd rather go quality rather than quantity, so I'd add a bank of 8 pre-amps and then if you need more you can add them via additional line in's. I could add two channels of Hi-Z also..
I could do it as a 4-bank slot module for repairs, I could add VCA / automation but not sure due to price here. I'd make it somewhat clean yet add musical into the equation, probably a mix between the major three.
I am only one person, as I continue on there's several things I might do.. For one instead of having to write drivers, I could send all the channels I/O via MADI so you could use something like an RME MADIFace and have excellent Windows and MAC support with better drivers than I could make (probably).. We'll see..
This is rather niche, would take years to even get out of the planning stage and it will be extremely difficult to get off the ground. I might start with a 4 channel example and send it round to gain interest, if it's worth doing in the first place.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 21, 2018 17:20:06 GMT -6
Nope. Mixer with built in converters minimizes the life of the board.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 17:24:32 GMT -6
Nope. Mixer with built in converters minimizes the life of the board.
What if I did it like the GSR-24 where you can have a slot card analog or FW interface option (as said it would probably be MADI on my design)? So essentially you could replace / upgrade the AD/DA via a module, of course I am just spitballing here but this sort of stuff really helps.. Really appreciate the opinions.!
The AD/DA would be the best I could possibly stick in there though, there would be no real reason to upgrade but having spare modules incase it dies might be a good idea.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 21, 2018 17:53:04 GMT -6
Nope. Mixer with built in converters minimizes the life of the board.
What if I did it like the GSR-24 where you can have a slot card analog or FW interface option (as said it would probably be MADI on my design)? So essentially you could replace / upgrade the AD/DA via a module, of course I am just spitballing here but this sort of stuff really helps.. Really appreciate the opinions.!
The AD/DA would be the best I could possibly stick in there though, there would be no real reason to upgrade but having spare modules incase it dies might be a good idea.
I had the Midas Venice F32 for a handful of years. There was some talk of future conversion upgrades early on. Instead, the board was discontinued. Digital changes too rapidly for me to buy in again. Now I've got a 40 channel Midas Verona and external MOTU converters. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2018 18:28:03 GMT -6
What if I did it like the GSR-24 where you can have a slot card analog or FW interface option (as said it would probably be MADI on my design)? So essentially you could replace / upgrade the AD/DA via a module, of course I am just spitballing here but this sort of stuff really helps.. Really appreciate the opinions.!
The AD/DA would be the best I could possibly stick in there though, there would be no real reason to upgrade but having spare modules incase it dies might be a good idea.
I had the Midas Venice F32 for a handful of years. There was some talk of future conversion upgrades early on. Instead, the board was discontinued. Digital changes too rapidly for me to buy in again. Now I've got a 40 channel Midas Verona and external MOTU converters.
I'm not arguing here (promise).. It seems to me the issue isn't the technology itself but the drivers, which makes the likes of using something like MADI even more important. You can use FW today over thunderbolt, but some of the older boards won't support windows 10 or later versions of OSX.
RME have a good track record, they've supported the the HDSP PCI-E for over a decade as an example.. You could still use a GSR-24 over ADAT even though they don't support the actual FW unit anymore, so if I remove the actual drivers / thunderbolt part out the equation.. Is it still a big issue?
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Post by svart on Aug 21, 2018 19:25:19 GMT -6
You should check out my mixer project thread.
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Post by matt@IAA on Aug 21, 2018 19:34:23 GMT -6
You should check out my mixer project thread. We could do the RGO mixer. I’d be game to draw schematics and such. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2018 6:27:59 GMT -6
Well looks like this one's a flop outta the gate.. There's many easier far more profitable projects out there so you might of done me a solid  .! |
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Post by svart on Aug 22, 2018 7:41:44 GMT -6
You should check out my mixer project thread. We could do the RGO mixer. I’d be game to draw schematics and such. I have most of my bastard 4k channel strips worked out in my head, and only some of it in schematic, and a little in actual prototypes at this point. It's hard working through it, that's for sure. I've ruled out a lot of things due to complexity and cost though. I really wanted to use certain pieces, such as the CAPS EQ scheme, but the rarity of certain pieces like the log/antilog pot pair makes it almost impossible. |
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Post by matt@IAA on Aug 22, 2018 7:44:56 GMT -6
Is it not possible to slug a resistor to behave like log and antilog?
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Post by svart on Aug 22, 2018 11:13:06 GMT -6
Is it not possible to slug a resistor to behave like log and antilog? You can't build an antilog from a linear pot in the voltage divider form. In rheostat form, the curve is correct, but the direction is backwards. Log from linear is no problem though. |
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