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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 30, 2019 20:31:06 GMT -6
I just got an email that says "November Sale Is Coming To A Close"
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Post by dmo on Nov 30, 2019 20:36:43 GMT -6
John,
Most updates can be handled through the Axe edit download, it's available on the fractal audio forum if not found on the fractal homepage
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Post by dmo on Nov 30, 2019 21:11:45 GMT -6
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Post by dmo on Nov 30, 2019 21:18:14 GMT -6
link for fractal bot to update firmware/presets - each has a dedicated thread on the fractal audio forum site - these should help you get things downloaded and managed www.fractalaudio.com/fractal-bot.php |
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Axe FX III
Nov 30, 2019 21:52:19 GMT -6
via mobile
Post by Johnkenn on Nov 30, 2019 21:52:19 GMT -6
Yep. Got them. Thanks though! I guess I’m just kind’ve confused why only some presets have different scenes...and then some of those scenes correspond to ABCD?
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 1, 2019 9:09:52 GMT -6
Nice instructional video. Not my tonal bag...but this thing can do raw too.
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Post by svart on Dec 1, 2019 9:20:31 GMT -6
I must be missing something.. why are used units going for more than new ones?
I see used units going from 2k-3k on average but a new unit is only 2200$ without the current sale..
Is this a case of bricasti-ism?
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Post by dmo on Dec 1, 2019 11:00:53 GMT -6
John,
I haven't spent as much time with the III since my studio corner has been lost while doing some remodeling, but a lot of the scene functionality was focused on live performance. I know some factory presets include multiple scenes that demonstrate changing amps, effects etc but others just have the same template copied in each available scene. They really are just examples of possible uses, and it definitely takes time to understand and integrate some of the capabilities into your preferred workflow.
I was using the II when I was still playing out, it had less processing power but I was able to set up 2 amp blocks and "x/y" amps between scenes to have 4 different amps available on a single preset. The III significantly increased processing so they now have the "ABCD" channel capability - but I really haven't spent much time building presets on the III yet either so probably can't help too much either. There are some good instructional "how to" videos on the fractal site - Cooper Carter, Burg, 2112 are good resources if I recall.
Enjoy the III - feel free to PM questions and I'll help as much as I can.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 1, 2019 11:28:56 GMT -6
Holee Crap...I can't get off the Morgan AC-20. Just a killer, killer sound. Finding that I'm enjoying just building my own amp blocks from my favorites. Another thing is - I figured out it was set to -10 instead of +4 on the output. Now I'm cranking.
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Post by ragan on Dec 1, 2019 11:47:37 GMT -6
Holee Crap...I can't get off the Morgan AC-20. Just a killer, killer sound. Finding that I'm enjoying just building my own amp blocks from my favorites. Another thing is - I figured out it was set to -10 instead of +4 on the output. Now I'm cranking. That Morgan has always perked my ears up when I’ve heard it. |
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Post by LesC on Dec 1, 2019 13:28:26 GMT -6
I'm really happy to hear thoughts about Kemper vs Fractal from someone who's ears I trust. I'm impatient and thinking of getting the Axe 3 instead of waiting for the FM3. For just a simple home studio, only for recording with no playing out, how important is it to get one of the footswitch units?
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Post by dmo on Dec 1, 2019 13:36:46 GMT -6
For studio use i rarely used the foot controller. Unless you want to be able to switch scenes, toggle effects on/off during a single take not really necessary, and with axe edit open on your computer you can do those with a quick mouse click. I haven't gotten one of the new foot controllers since I got my III since I'm currently not gigging - IMO you can start just with the III and add a controller later
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Post by LesC on Dec 1, 2019 13:54:06 GMT -6
Thank you! That's what I thought and I appreciate the confirmation.
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Post by mikec on Dec 1, 2019 14:27:09 GMT -6
I had the foot controller when I had my Kemper and I pretty much never used it. When I sold the Kemper and got the AXE III I did not get the foot controller and so far don't miss it. My live playing are acoustic gigs and I have one basic acoustic setting for the AXE when I use it so I don't have a need to do switching on the fly.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 1, 2019 14:27:10 GMT -6
I'm really happy to hear thoughts about Kemper vs Fractal from someone who's ears I trust. I'm impatient and thinking of getting the Axe 3 instead of waiting for the FM3. For just a simple home studio, only for recording with no playing out, how important is it to get one of the footswitch units? I didn’t bother because I’m in the same situation as you...why would you need footswitches? I just got lost for another hour with this thing. I’ve totally been putting off some mixes I have to do because I’m down the rabbit hole (in a great way). I don’t claim to have the greatest ears in the world, but I can tell you this has totally thrilled me. Most of the demos I’ve heard have been Dream Theater type Satriani stuff that gives you the false impression that it’s just another metal head machine. Man, I’m getting fantastic raw amp tones. And there are literally millions of combos with different cabs. |
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Post by indiehouse on Dec 1, 2019 14:29:48 GMT -6
Someone talk me out of selling my Kemper for this thing. Or tell me how great the Strymon Iridium is. I would rather mic my tube amps, but that’s hard to do in my current situation. I keep reading mixed reviews about the Axe vs Kemper. Some say the Axe III is way better, others say it’s equal but different and others say the Kemper feels better. Can’t seem to find a unanimous opinion on it.
I would love for the Iridium to be a stripped down version of Axe quality amps without the bells and whistles. That’s about all I’d need. I’ve got a pedal board full of drives and effects, so I don’t need any built in stuff a la Axe III.
But sometimes I do struggle to get a tone I’m happy with out of the Kemper. It’s probably operator error. I don’t know how to tweak it proper. I’m not a tweaker.
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Post by ragan on Dec 1, 2019 14:49:21 GMT -6
Someone talk me out of selling my Kemper for this thing. Or tell me how great the Strymon Iridium is. I would rather mic my tube amps, but that’s hard to do in my current situation. I keep reading mixed reviews about the Axe vs Kemper. Some say the Axe III is way better, others say it’s equal but different and others say the Kemper feels better. Can’t seem to find a unanimous opinion on it. I would love for the Iridium to be a stripped down version of Axe quality amps without the bells and whistles. That’s about all I’d need. I’ve got a pedal board full of drives and effects, so I don’t need any built in stuff a la Axe III. But sometimes I do struggle to get a tone I’m happy with out of the Kemper. It’s probably operator error. I don’t know how to tweak it proper. I’m not a tweaker. It’s possible that last sentence answers whether the Axe FX is for you... |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 1, 2019 14:58:09 GMT -6
Someone talk me out of selling my Kemper for this thing. Or tell me how great the Strymon Iridium is. I would rather mic my tube amps, but that’s hard to do in my current situation. I keep reading mixed reviews about the Axe vs Kemper. Some say the Axe III is way better, others say it’s equal but different and others say the Kemper feels better. Can’t seem to find a unanimous opinion on it. I would love for the Iridium to be a stripped down version of Axe quality amps without the bells and whistles. That’s about all I’d need. I’ve got a pedal board full of drives and effects, so I don’t need any built in stuff a la Axe III. But sometimes I do struggle to get a tone I’m happy with out of the Kemper. It’s probably operator error. I don’t know how to tweak it proper. I’m not a tweaker. Man, not to spend your money...and maybe someone that has spent their lives miking amps would be able to tell the difference, but this IMO sounds like I wanted the Kemper to sound like. What raw amps you guys want to hear? Like just amp in the room |
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Post by ragan on Dec 1, 2019 14:59:43 GMT -6
Someone talk me out of selling my Kemper for this thing. Or tell me how great the Strymon Iridium is. I would rather mic my tube amps, but that’s hard to do in my current situation. I keep reading mixed reviews about the Axe vs Kemper. Some say the Axe III is way better, others say it’s equal but different and others say the Kemper feels better. Can’t seem to find a unanimous opinion on it. I would love for the Iridium to be a stripped down version of Axe quality amps without the bells and whistles. That’s about all I’d need. I’ve got a pedal board full of drives and effects, so I don’t need any built in stuff a la Axe III. But sometimes I do struggle to get a tone I’m happy with out of the Kemper. It’s probably operator error. I don’t know how to tweak it proper. I’m not a tweaker. Man, not to spend your money...and maybe someone that has spent their lives miking amps would be able to tell the difference, but this IMO sounds like I wanted the Kemper to sound like. What raw amps you guys want to hear? Like just amp in the room Deluxe Reverb, Deluxe Tweed and an AC30 or AC15...and the Morgan! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 1, 2019 15:03:49 GMT -6
Man, not to spend your money...and maybe someone that has spent their lives miking amps would be able to tell the difference, but this IMO sounds like I wanted the Kemper to sound like. What raw amps you guys want to hear? Like just amp in the room Deluxe Reverb, Deluxe Tweed and an AC30 or AC15...and the Morgan! Sure you can handle my playing? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 1, 2019 16:23:39 GMT -6
Here's just some raw amps with a little small room on them. There's really no way to convey how may different sounds you can get. There are tons of different matching (and unmatched) IRs for each amp that sound dramatically different. Then you have the amp EQ, then multiple other EQs. This was just through a P90 so they all sound kinda similar...don't let me shitty playing fool you.
https%3A//soundcloud.com/user-761067382/sets/axe-fx-3
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 1, 2019 16:27:43 GMT -6
On a couple of them I solo'd different IRs so you could hear how different they are...
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Post by ragan on Dec 1, 2019 19:34:25 GMT -6
Here's just some raw amps with a little small room on them. There's really no way to convey how may different sounds you can get. There are tons of different matching (and unmatched) IRs for each amp that sound dramatically different. Then you have the amp EQ, then multiple other EQs. This was just through a P90 so they all sound kinda similar...don't let me shitty playing fool you. https%3A//soundcloud.com/user-761067382/sets/axe-fx-3That is cool, no doubt. Really has a different kind of representation than the Kemper for sure. A really different kind of transient articulation. I could see how this thing is loads of fun. Thanks for posting! |
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Post by geoff738 on Dec 2, 2019 13:53:42 GMT -6
Re the foot pedal. If you’re someone who uses an expression pedal can that be patched into the back of the main unit, or do you need to buy the foot switch unit?
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by matt on Dec 2, 2019 16:07:53 GMT -6
Re the foot pedal. If you’re someone who uses an expression pedal can that be patched into the back of the main unit, or do you need to buy the foot switch unit? Cheers, Geoff The box itself has ports for two expression pedals, TRS type. I had to go into my Mission pedals and change the wiring since mine are the Helix TS variant. The FC-12 has four expression ports. I suppose you could go wild and have six pedals in front of you with the foot switch. Impressive, but useless. Perhaps. |
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