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Post by mcirish on May 22, 2018 10:04:31 GMT -6
I have been using Dynaudio Air6 monitors along with Equator D5's for a very long time. The Air6 is great for working on clarity but I've always felt it was a little tame in the 200hz range. So, I use the D5's to check that area. It's worked great but I've been wondering about the LYD 48 monitors. I've so far only read glowing reviews. Does anyone have some longer term use with these? They are a bit pricey for my budget (daughter in grad school) but I'm still very interested in them.
Thoughts?
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Post by kcatthedog on May 22, 2018 12:32:12 GMT -6
Ragan should chime in anytime !
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Post by ragan on May 22, 2018 14:00:23 GMT -6
I have been using Dynaudio Air6 monitors along with Equator D5's for a very long time. The Air6 is great for working on clarity but I've always felt it was a little tame in the 200hz range. So, I use the D5's to check that area. It's worked great but I've been wondering about the LYD 48 monitors. I've so far only read glowing reviews. Does anyone have some longer term use with these? They are a bit pricey for my budget (daughter in grad school) but I'm still very interested in them. Thoughts? Mine were probably some of the glowing reviews so you've maybe already heard my thoughts but I can add that I feel about them exactly as I did when I first got them. I'm a big fan.
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Post by mcirish on May 22, 2018 14:31:41 GMT -6
Thanks Ragan. It's fair amount of money and I guess I'm a little nervous pulling the trigger on it. The Air6 have worked very well but a little added lowend wouldn't hurt at all.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 24, 2018 21:12:32 GMT -6
Not helping my want to get rid of Amphion.
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Post by ericn on May 25, 2018 6:34:45 GMT -6
Not helping my want to get rid of Amphion. What’s feeding this? In your room I think they are hard to beat? I was a huge Dynaudio fan till a friend who works for a highend consumer speaker company told me the high reject rate they had of Dynaudio OEM drivers, they solved the problem by using much cheaper Chinese copies.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 25, 2018 7:53:25 GMT -6
The American distributor was such an enormous dick, it makes me not want them anymore.
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Post by ericn on May 25, 2018 8:19:03 GMT -6
The American distributor was such an enormous dick, it makes me not want them anymore. Ahh, well there is that, thank god distributors and reps come and go. In the world of gear sales you will learn they are as disposable as old diapers and that a new brand has a hard time finding someone who will take them on. Often this means a total a-hole or going with somebody big and getting lost in the woods. Of course I hate to say it but over time some of the biggest dicks in this industry have become good friends. Besides knowing you even if you replace them in a year you will be right back with them😁
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Post by Johnkenn on May 25, 2018 8:41:25 GMT -6
This guy has been with them since the beginning. I had a $6500 sale for him and he basically told me to go fuck myself.
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Post by ericn on May 25, 2018 9:09:19 GMT -6
This guy has been with them since the beginning. I had a $6500 sale for him and he basically told me to go fuck myself. Yeah been there, what’s really fun is when they then do the deal direct. Manufacturers want growth so if the distributors fuck the dealer at some point the dealer sells against them and the distributor gets cut off. If it’s the guy who was at NAMM a couple of years ago, my first impression was another used car salesmen selling speakers who deserved his spot in DJ hell.
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Post by Ward on May 25, 2018 10:25:27 GMT -6
The American distributor was such an enormous dick, it makes me not want them anymore. Completely agree with you!! First rule of business: Don't be a D-bag or an A-hole!
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Post by Johnkenn on May 25, 2018 10:27:04 GMT -6
This guy has been with them since the beginning. I had a $6500 sale for him and he basically told me to go fuck myself. Yeah been there, what’s really fun is when they then do the deal direct. Manufacturers want growth so if the distributors fuck the dealer at some point the dealer sells against them and the distributor gets cut off. If it’s the guy who was at NAMM a couple of years ago, my first impression was another used car salesmen selling speakers who deserved his spot in DJ hell. Yep...that's the guy
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Post by Johnkenn on May 25, 2018 10:28:29 GMT -6
ragan - you ever try out the Amphion One 18s? Just wondering how these compare. I do really love these...and I can probably get over my little hissy fit...but hey - who knows, maybe three ways would be better.
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Post by rigo on May 25, 2018 13:38:01 GMT -6
I recently bought a pair of LYD48s to replace the Event 20/20's I had been using for many years. I'm about halfway through tracking a new album and I am loving the Dynaudios. The bottom end is deep, solid, and beautiful--much easier to sort out the bass and kick. In fact, it seems easier to sort out all the frequency ranges. The mids are very smooth and detailed and the highs are very nicely balanced with everything else. I feel that I am hearing much more detail, and the flaws in my tracking are pretty apparent and therefore easier to correct. That might be their best quality--they seem quite revealing. I did a session a couple of days ago with a great local drummer with a couple of decades of experience in every level of recording studio (including his own) and he was very happy with the drum sounds (whew!) and impressed by the sound of the speakers. We both kept noticing and commenting on how well the speakers were representing the sound of his kit. I'll know a lot more when I finish tracking this project and get down to mixing on the LYD48s. I have messed around some with remixing songs from previous projects and, so far, the results bear out what I hear when tracking--a lot of detail is revealed in these speakers, and the low end is beautiful. In any case, so far so good.
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Post by Quint on May 25, 2018 14:37:45 GMT -6
How many of you Lyd 48 owners feel the need to use a sub with these?
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Post by rigo on May 25, 2018 15:32:53 GMT -6
I can't picture why I would have any need of a sub with these monitors. at least in my studio. I'm not sure if I've ever heard such a solid low-end picture out of a speaker this size. I have a small room, however, and larger rooms might tell a different story. These things move a lot of air on the bottom--very clean, very well-defined, no excess boominess or hollowness (that I have heard so far) unless I'm not doing my job well in terms of mic choice and placement. My longtime bassist noticed the difference right away, recording direct through a Sonic Farm Creamer. He commented immediately on how wide and deep the bass tone was. I have been recording him here for more than ten years. Just my two cents...
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Post by ragan on May 25, 2018 18:31:08 GMT -6
ragan - you ever try out the Amphion One 18s? Just wondering how these compare. I do really love these...and I can probably get over my little hissy fit...but hey - who knows, maybe three ways would be better. I haven't ever used Amphions, sorry. Why fix what ain't broke? That said, I'm an unabashed cheerleader for the LYD48s. If I could I'd be sitting in from of them all day long. They reveal so much in such a pleasing way. Records sound so distinct from one another on these things. You can read my impressions of them when I first got 'em (and was deciding between them and the Adams) in one of these threads around here. I'll have a look for it. I don't know if it's the 3-way design in general or just these LYD's but the way the frequency spectrum presents itself on these scratches me right where I itch. Edit: oh and to the subwoofer question...I can't imagine needing or wanting a sub with these. They go deep and the low end is really well represented. I've never had an easier time sorting things out down there.
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Post by kcatthedog on May 25, 2018 19:14:12 GMT -6
The 3 way design optomizes vocal freq to the mid driver, higher freq to tweeter and lows to woofer,so it inherently both cleans things up and brings very good definition.
To me, in my room the one 18’s had a voluptuous smooth and very big sound envelope,the dyns more utilitarian but clear and impressive.
I was shooting the dyns out with the Focal shapes , arguably more tailored for smaller rooms and I preferred the shapes but I didn’t dislike the dyns.
After shooting out one fifteens and one eighteens and later the lyds and shape 5.0 and 6.5, I was interested in more top end information as the amphions roll it off.
I liked the tonality of the shape but also really liked what the lyds did in the mids, if I had a larger room, perhaps I would have preferred the lyds.
Monitors are so personal, demo in your room if at all possible!
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Post by Johnkenn on May 25, 2018 19:36:01 GMT -6
ragan - you ever try out the Amphion One 18s? Just wondering how these compare. I do really love these...and I can probably get over my little hissy fit...but hey - who knows, maybe three ways would be better. I haven't ever used Amphions, sorry. Why fix what ain't broke? Spite and pride.
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Post by ragan on May 25, 2018 20:27:42 GMT -6
I haven't ever used Amphions, sorry. Why fix what ain't broke? Spite and pride. I can get behind that.
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Post by joey808 on May 25, 2018 21:01:13 GMT -6
I own the LYD-48’s and the 9s sub, love em!
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Post by Quint on May 25, 2018 21:52:30 GMT -6
ragan - you ever try out the Amphion One 18s? Just wondering how these compare. I do really love these...and I can probably get over my little hissy fit...but hey - who knows, maybe three ways would be better. I haven't ever used Amphions, sorry. Why fix what ain't broke? That said, I'm an unabashed cheerleader for the LYD48s. If I could I'd be sitting in from of them all day long. They reveal so much in such a pleasing way. Records sound so distinct from one another on these things. You can read my impressions of them when I first got 'em (and was deciding between them and the Adams) in one of these threads around here. I'll have a look for it. I don't know if it's the 3-way design in general or just these LYD's but the way the frequency spectrum presents itself on these scratches me right where I itch. Edit: oh and to the subwoofer question...I can't imagine needing or wanting a sub with these. They go deep and the low end is really well represented. I've never had an easier time sorting things out down there. What is your setup with the LYDs? Do you have them on dedicated monitor stands or sitting on a shelf/desktop?
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Post by ragan on May 25, 2018 23:34:20 GMT -6
I haven't ever used Amphions, sorry. Why fix what ain't broke? That said, I'm an unabashed cheerleader for the LYD48s. If I could I'd be sitting in from of them all day long. They reveal so much in such a pleasing way. Records sound so distinct from one another on these things. You can read my impressions of them when I first got 'em (and was deciding between them and the Adams) in one of these threads around here. I'll have a look for it. I don't know if it's the 3-way design in general or just these LYD's but the way the frequency spectrum presents itself on these scratches me right where I itch. Edit: oh and to the subwoofer question...I can't imagine needing or wanting a sub with these. They go deep and the low end is really well represented. I've never had an easier time sorting things out down there. What is your setup with the LYDs? Do you have them on dedicated monitor stands or sitting on a shelf/desktop? Yeah I've just got them on stands with the Auralex things underneath.
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Post by mcirish on May 28, 2018 8:09:05 GMT -6
After working on Dynaudio Air6 for over a decade and the glowing reviews on the LYD 48, I bought a pair yesterday. If they fill in the lows just a bit more than the Air6, I will be quite happy. I ordered them in black but now wonder if I should have got white... Just to be different. Hmmm. A dilemma.
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Post by kcatthedog on May 28, 2018 8:21:44 GMT -6
Hmmm,, a dilemma, monitor ascetics to me are a black and white issue !
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