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Post by hio on Nov 4, 2018 16:33:38 GMT -6
Guys and Gals, don't shoot the messenger (me) but there are many caveats to online purchases that you might want to check in on like... did you pay with PayPal and or a credit card or directly through PayPal, etc.? It can get convoluted with each and every transactional detail. For example,..... "PayPal: You paid for the item with one payment (items purchased with multiple payments are not eligible for Buyer Protection)." Again maybe, maybe not and it depends. I still don't see the point of your post. At this point there's no issue of people being refused refunds if they've requested it. You're the guy who said, "...I have had immediate needs big time and needed stuff like yesterday," and then two seconds later ordered something from Stam. Now less than a week later you're speculating about this being the "oldest scam in the book." Your thought process seems a tad inconsistent. You are taking me out of context, leaving out my reply in the other thread and I kindly asked not to shoot the messenger. I am only trying to protect people like yourself but you are so right about one thing and that is people are *not* being refused refunds yet, and I hope all will see their product before their dead.
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Post by m03 on Nov 4, 2018 18:07:39 GMT -6
You are taking me out of context, leaving out my reply in the other thread and I kindly asked not to shoot the messenger. I am only trying to protect people like yourself but you are so right about one thing and that is people are *not* being refused refunds yet, and I hope all will see their product before their dead. This is business as usual for Stam though. Anyone ordering should already be well aware that the shipping estimates have always been overly optimistic and production delays are typical. He's in the middle of transitioning into a wholesale-to-retailers business model and refusing refunds at this juncture would be career suicide.
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Post by jtc111 on Nov 4, 2018 18:34:30 GMT -6
I still don't see the point of your post. At this point there's no issue of people being refused refunds if they've requested it. You're the guy who said, "...I have had immediate needs big time and needed stuff like yesterday," and then two seconds later ordered something from Stam. Now less than a week later you're speculating about this being the "oldest scam in the book." Your thought process seems a tad inconsistent. You are taking me out of context, leaving out my reply in the other thread and I kindly asked not to shoot the messenger. I am only trying to protect people like yourself but you are so right about one thing and that is people are *not* being refused refunds yet, and I hope all will see their product before their dead. There's no "context" issue with how I quoted you. You said one thing and then did something antithetical to what you said. You also made two strange posts complaining that people weren't responding to you fast enough, now you're complaining that you got a response. If "the messenger" doesn't want to be shot, he shouldn't step into the street waving his guns around. We all know there are issues with Stam. There are many threads where the real problems have been discussed and I've been as critical as anyone. We don't need to add imaginary problems to the list. If we ever get to the point where Josh packs his bags and keeps our deposits, I'm sure we'll all be asking for your advice. Until then, the problems that actually exist are fodder enough for conversation and complaints.
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Post by hio on Nov 5, 2018 4:51:21 GMT -6
There you go again, I asked the ADMIN of this forum one question period and I have never asked a single question to anyone else on this forum ever, and NOW you are taking what I have said and saying I was asking *people* questions and then you say I had two strange posts when I had one because I was sleep deprived because I am working long hard hours and loving it. I take ear breaks and that is why I am here replying to this at almost 3 AM.
I should of just shot JK an email but I apologized, and I had a point nonetheless and he cleared up the confusion by stating he didn't mean to say what he said. You say however you have been critical as most anyone but you allude to the fact that I should just shut up because my concerns are all imaginary. PM me because I have some really nice property to sell you and I will even give you a great discount if you want to put a deposit on it. You know I will even throw in a free acre and I will even discount some additional acreage. I need a deposit though because thousands of people want this incredible deal.
All I have suggested is that people check their sixes because of what I have seen in the past which i could write a book on and it is my civic duty.
Now please go vote if you haven’t already and i am finished on this issue and we will see won’t we and I am sincerely hoping for the best for all of you. Even Einstein would often get lost walking so I am giving the company in question a partial pass at this time but poorly managed just the same.
Peace brother and i mean you no disrespect but please don’t put words in my mouth and i don’t mean literally.
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Post by lcr on Nov 5, 2018 5:47:16 GMT -6
Ahem.... can’t wait to get my new Stam gear!! Hoping to hear some good news / shipping sooner than later!!
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 5, 2018 6:35:38 GMT -6
Ya, please let's just leave the melodrama behind us, (far, far too much of it on this thread), all we need are firm production dates.
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Post by jtc111 on Nov 5, 2018 9:21:07 GMT -6
...all we need are firm production dates. ...and unicorns.
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Post by Ward on Nov 5, 2018 9:59:40 GMT -6
...all we need are firm production dates. ...and unicorns. I prefer my unicorns with double rainbows all the way across the sky, thank you.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 5, 2018 11:13:51 GMT -6
I can’t/won’t deal with the drama anymore.
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Post by Ward on Nov 5, 2018 12:00:39 GMT -6
Well, I just bartered away my pair of WA76s. So hurry up stam!! I mo need those 76ADGs ASAP, if not sooner. PLEASE
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 13, 2018 6:13:50 GMT -6
Has any body seen any update and or re-statement of whether the original 150 ADG are shipping in November ?
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Post by lcr on Nov 13, 2018 6:25:19 GMT -6
Has any body seen any update and or re-statement of whether the original 150 ADG are shipping in November ? No sir. It was stated elsewhere on the interwebs that info would be emailed 2 wks ago, then posted it will be delayed another wk and now were almost halfway into another week with no updates.
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Post by ericn on Nov 13, 2018 8:15:09 GMT -6
These Stam threads are making me appreciate the fact we didn’t have the internet back in the days of waiting on the Tascam DA88, Mackie 8 bus and just about any Sony or Panasonic professional product. We gearpimps thought the never ending voice mails of those who ordered early were a pain.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 13, 2018 8:21:24 GMT -6
It ain’t happening in November. No inside knowledge.
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Post by Ward on Nov 13, 2018 9:35:55 GMT -6
It ain’t happening in November. No inside knowledge. Well dang it all to heck. I've already parted with the pair of WA76s. They were 'filling the gap' for the time being, as my overflows when my Ureis and Bluestripe clones and Mohogs were in use. FFS
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Post by jtc111 on Nov 13, 2018 9:45:40 GMT -6
Has any body seen any update and or re-statement of whether the original 150 ADG are shipping in November ? No sir. It was stated elsewhere on the interwebs that info would be emailed 2 wks ago, then posted it will be delayed another wk and now were almost halfway into another week with no updates. Maybe the emails are stuck in customs.
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Post by ericn on Nov 13, 2018 9:48:54 GMT -6
No sir. It was stated elsewhere on the interwebs that info would be emailed 2 wks ago, then posted it will be delayed another wk and now were almost halfway into another week with no updates. Maybe the emails are stuck in customs. Real reason for the whole abolish ICE thing everybody ordered a Stam🤔
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Post by Ward on Nov 13, 2018 10:33:45 GMT -6
No sir. It was stated elsewhere on the interwebs that info would be emailed 2 wks ago, then posted it will be delayed another wk and now were almost halfway into another week with no updates. Maybe the emails are stuck in customs. Apparently, the emails have cleared customs! I just heard from Joshua and looks like things will be moving soon
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 13, 2018 10:40:20 GMT -6
Specifically adg’s Or you are joking ?
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Post by stormymondays on Nov 13, 2018 10:41:38 GMT -6
Apparently, the emails have cleared customs! I just heard from Joshua and looks like things will be moving soon Well, everytime I hear from him, things are about to be moving soon. It was late August when he told me my order "can probably ship this week" (not an ADG order!!!). Somehow he's kept me hanging on for more than 2 months...
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Post by theshea on Nov 13, 2018 11:32:22 GMT -6
ok, so building another month, shipping, staying in chile a month ... guess that we will see no adg before january 2019. if there will be no further delays!
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Post by ragan on Nov 13, 2018 12:40:23 GMT -6
Maybe the emails are stuck in customs. Apparently, the emails have cleared customs! I just heard from Joshua and looks like things will be moving soon lol
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Post by mike on Nov 13, 2018 22:58:21 GMT -6
FWIW, Miguel from Stam updated projected delivery dates as of today on the Stam User FB page as follows;
Miguel Batalha
Shipping Timeline (When does it start shipping?)
Updated on the 13th of November 2018.
SA-47 - In Stock SA-3A - In Stock 1073MPA - In Stock SA-47F - In Stock SA-87 - December SA-67 - December SA-76ADG - December first batch, January second batch SA-4000MKII - January SA-EQP1A - December 1073EQ - December 312MPA - January Stamchild - December or January
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Post by jtc111 on Nov 13, 2018 23:05:24 GMT -6
We have our first 2019 sightings. If you had the SA-4000MKII or the 312MPA for November 13th in the pool, you're a winner!
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Post by ragan on Nov 13, 2018 23:21:21 GMT -6
Amazing how that 1073MPA keeps being 'in stock' but I haven't seen anything of the one I ordered 8 months ago and was invoiced and paid in full for 8 weeks ago.
'In stock' must mean something different in Chile.
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