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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 12, 2014 21:14:21 GMT -6
The abx thing is pretty cool.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 12, 2014 21:15:32 GMT -6
Where is the ABX program?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 12, 2014 21:18:33 GMT -6
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 12, 2014 21:23:29 GMT -6
I've heard this claim, primarily from jazz, but I disagree with his criteria. I can hear a diff on my rig, and to me, the only rig that matters is MY RIG. I can hear the diff between 44.1/16 and 96/24 no problem on my rig, I'd say if you can't, monitoring or some other shortcoming must be considered? Contrary to some, higher resolutions and bit depths are there for a reason. I have heard differences too, but in the rare occasion I attempt a blind ABX test, I can't reliably back up what I'm hearing, so I'm a little bit doubtful. Honestly downloading the ABX program and trying to prove yourself right can be slightly eye-opening. However it really may be, you must admit, the line between 320 MP3, 16 bit WAV, and 24 bit WAV is starting to get kind of thin, and at the very least, it's not "night and day." They all sound "pretty good," all things considered, all else being equal. I'm not militant about this at all, by the way. I'm not going around trying to cram this down anyone's esophagus. You're a good man monkee! We all know it! I'm more about knowing my monitoring and listening space, also honing in on what to listen for isn't exactly easy, for me it's very particular to years of my own personal experience and familiarities. Internet wise, listening to blinds that are less than very high quality, sound alien and weird to me, not all of them though, I've heard blinds that show the characteristics I'm looking for, but if I can't see those things, then I'm truly blind... If that makes any sense at all? A 96/24 bit mix vs a 44.1/16 on my rig is not a subtle contrast. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 12, 2014 21:24:55 GMT -6
The abx thing is pretty cool. I shall check out this ABX thing... |
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 12, 2014 21:29:10 GMT -6
All i get is written text in Japanese? Weird? I'm on an iPhone
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Post by Guitar on Feb 12, 2014 21:38:57 GMT -6
I know exactly what you are talking about with other peoples' sound samples, it can sound very strange, coming from a much different environment, and much different signal path to disk, almost to the point of being completely alien and useless. To me this highlights the vast difference you can get with rooms, mics, instruments, preamps, even conversion. Some peoples' ears seem so strange to me when I hear their mixes. We all must hear so differently. I'm sure that monitoring situations are no small part of some of this difference, as well as stock working methods. I think mostly it comes down to ears and taste. I'm actually glad that sound can be so varied.
The program I used is called WinABX, you can load up two files and do an automatic blind test on yourself.
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Post by hazmatstrat on Feb 12, 2014 21:41:20 GMT -6
https%3A//soundcloud.com/hazmatstrat/guitar-1-jj-vs-87
https%3A//soundcloud.com/hazmatstrat/guitar-2-jj-vs-87
Hey guys try these.
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Post by hazmatstrat on Feb 14, 2014 10:46:46 GMT -6
In the clips that we posted was the Greyhound and the U87. There was a slight difference in the top end of these mics. When I nulled the samples, most of what I heard was the top end.
As you all well know there are several versions of the U87. The U87i is not quite as bright as the U87ai. The mic that I had in the shop for samples is the darkest U87i that I have heard. I have the schematic for that mic and I have built that circuit many times with great success. However a few clients wanted an slightly brighter mic. I then changed my circuit to be midway between the two versions of the U87i circuit. Circuit wise, that is the difference between these two mics.
I think the Jensen transformer has a more linier response than the U87i transformer and has more headroom.The specs for the Jensen are: +21dBu..... THD @ 20hz 0,015%...... THD @ 1kHz <0.001%....20Hz/20kHZ re:1kHz = -0.04dB / -0.03dB..........Very nice specs for a mic transformer.
The results......Mic #1 Neumann..... Mic #2 JJ Audio Greyhound.......
Thanks Jim
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