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Post by phantom on Jun 16, 2019 14:31:36 GMT -6
Also, I wanted to post a quick review after one week. This EQ is AWESOME! My bass has never sounded fatter! I haven't had a real neve experience to shoot out, but comparing to my BAE, I think the magic is very much there! That said, it took me a second to relearn the gain-staging after coming from the BAE. I think the BAE is putting out a hotter signal... would that make sense? Seems like I'm turning my compressor input (directly after the EQ) up significantly more from my old settings. At first, the lack of output had me juicing the input a little bit hotter. I quickly realized this was a mistake and that my INPUT side should be similar to how I set the BAE, but the output will naturally be lower (in other words, I believe they are distorting in a similar way at similar gain settings). It's something I'll have to think about when fighting noise but by no means a deal breaker. My first impression was WOW and I'm really glad that I made the purchase! With the trim knob on the Stam and the output knob on the BAE fully cranked, you think the Stam has a lower output? How much lower, exactly?
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Post by MorEQsThanAnswers on Jun 18, 2019 18:40:28 GMT -6
Without a splitter (which I've gotten lazy about building), I wouldn't feel right putting a number value on it. Like I said, it isn't THAT big of a deal but just something I noticed.
I think Josh mentioned somewhere earlier in the thread that BAE's output stage was redesigned from the original Neve in a way that would have made this happen. It was apparently more mass producible. Like I said, the thing is sick. I bring this up as a "difference" and not a "demerit."
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Post by Derek Reese on Jun 25, 2019 8:56:07 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 25, 2019 9:03:36 GMT -6
Fun !
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Post by brenta on Jun 25, 2019 10:18:33 GMT -6
Without a splitter (which I've gotten lazy about building), I wouldn't feel right putting a number value on it. Like I said, it isn't THAT big of a deal but just something I noticed. I think Josh mentioned somewhere earlier in the thread that BAE's output stage was redesigned from the original Neve in a way that would have made this happen. It was apparently more mass producible. Like I said, the thing is sick. I bring this up as a "difference" and not a "demerit." Is the output only lower when you have the EQ engaged? I know Josh has mentioned that they designed it to drop the output level when the EQ is engaged. He claims this is true to the original Neve design and gives it more headroom when boosting. I think after a few complaints they have changed this so the units that are shipping now no longer have the the drop.
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Post by forgotteng on Jun 25, 2019 13:51:37 GMT -6
Without a splitter (which I've gotten lazy about building), I wouldn't feel right putting a number value on it. Like I said, it isn't THAT big of a deal but just something I noticed. I think Josh mentioned somewhere earlier in the thread that BAE's output stage was redesigned from the original Neve in a way that would have made this happen. It was apparently more mass producible. Like I said, the thing is sick. I bring this up as a "difference" and not a "demerit." Is the output only lower when you have the EQ engaged? I know Josh has mentioned that they designed it to drop the output level when the EQ is engaged. He claims this is true to the original Neve design and gives it more headroom when boosting. I think after a few complaints they have changed this so the units that are shipping now no longer have the the drop. Mine does seem to drop gain when the EQ is engaged. I noticed a little electricness or slight distortion too on mine when the EQ was engaged but I was in the middle of a session and didn't have time to troubleshoot my signal chain. I just switched to my 1073MPA and moved on. I need to get back and dig in a little deeper.
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Post by askomiko on Jun 25, 2019 14:14:49 GMT -6
Mine were unusable with EQ on, loud 50hz ground buzz. Both units are in france now for repairs, we'll see how it goes, so far the repair hasn't been succesful and noise remains. Btw, Stam didn't want to take the units back, at least from EU, so you won't get VAT's and import taxes back. Otherwise refund would be the #1 option and I'd grab it immediately.
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Post by Derek Reese on Jun 25, 2019 14:36:00 GMT -6
All joking aside, This is the Best preamp and EQ I’ve ever used, Without the eq the preamp has an awesome forward presence, with the EQ engaged it has a beautifully rich low end with a top end that is crisp and airy, thank you Stam Audio.
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Post by mike on Jun 25, 2019 21:40:26 GMT -6
I have a pair of the 1073EQ's. They were some of the early ones from the first batch so when EQ is engaged it is a few DB lower than when EQ is out and it's a non issue to me. There is plenty of unused gain available on either setting. My 1073EQ's and 76ADG have had no performance issues whatsoever and have sounded nothing but great here.
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Post by indiehouse on Jun 26, 2019 5:52:45 GMT -6
Mine were unusable with EQ on, loud 50hz ground buzz. Both units are in france now for repairs, we'll see how it goes, so far the repair hasn't been succesful and noise remains. Btw, Stam didn't want to take the units back, at least from EU, so you won't get VAT's and import taxes back. Otherwise refund would be the #1 option and I'd grab it immediately. Both of my 1073EQ’s have the EQ buzz. Josh is aware and says he knows the problem and has a solution (which, from what I was told, is rotating the power transformer a bit). Mine aren’t fixed yet. Still waiting to get my ADG back from the repair tech because it was distorting on revision A.
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Post by stam on Jun 26, 2019 6:34:46 GMT -6
Mine were unusable with EQ on, loud 50hz ground buzz. Both units are in france now for repairs, we'll see how it goes, so far the repair hasn't been succesful and noise remains. Btw, Stam didn't want to take the units back, at least from EU, so you won't get VAT's and import taxes back. Otherwise refund would be the #1 option and I'd grab it immediately. Both of my 1073EQ’s have the EQ buzz. Josh is aware and says he knows the problem and has a solution (which, from what I was told, is rotating the power transformer a bit). Mine aren’t fixed yet. Still waiting to get my ADG back from the repair tech because it was distorting on revision A. Please send these to Jeff at my expense ASAP so he can fix the issue for you Thanks
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Post by stam on Jun 26, 2019 6:36:38 GMT -6
Mine were unusable with EQ on, loud 50hz ground buzz. Both units are in france now for repairs, we'll see how it goes, so far the repair hasn't been succesful and noise remains. Btw, Stam didn't want to take the units back, at least from EU, so you won't get VAT's and import taxes back. Otherwise refund would be the #1 option and I'd grab it immediately. I have instructed Ritchie on what to do to fix the issue. Trust me , you don't want these items refunded, you won't find another replica made like this at any price point unless you buy a real Neve.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 26, 2019 14:31:58 GMT -6
Strangely I haven’t really noticed any buzz lately. I might just turn the transformer via instructions anyway. It really does sound good.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 26, 2019 17:16:45 GMT -6
It’s just a good idea to turn the transformer,but do it unplugged and wait a bit !
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Post by indiehouse on Jun 26, 2019 19:51:57 GMT -6
It’s just a good idea to turn the transformer,but do it unplugged and wait a bit ! I think you’re supposed to turn it while listening to hear when the buzz disappears.
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Post by forgotteng on Jun 26, 2019 20:00:22 GMT -6
Does anyone have a recording so I can hear the buzz your experiencing? I would like to compare it to mine to see if my issue is this transformer issue.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 27, 2019 5:08:53 GMT -6
It’s just a good idea to turn the transformer,but do it unplugged and wait a bit ! I think you’re supposed to turn it while listening to hear when the buzz disappears. ah, so no safety ground issues ?
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Post by Derek Reese on Jun 28, 2019 22:28:31 GMT -6
Does anyone have a recording so I can hear the buzz your experiencing? I would like to compare it to mine to see if my issue is this transformer issue. I like your glasses home skillet
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 29, 2019 15:38:00 GMT -6
Any able to compare to an ez1073?
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Post by porkyman on Jun 29, 2019 18:28:14 GMT -6
It’s just a good idea to turn the transformer,but do it unplugged and wait a bit ! I think you’re supposed to turn it while listening to hear when the buzz disappears. I had to do this with my SA3A. It was creepy af. That toroid is big and doesn’t look like it wants to be touched. I just got two stams. Haven’t tested them yet but I really hope I don’t have to do it again.
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Post by lando on Jun 30, 2019 7:19:45 GMT -6
Any able to compare to an ez1073? I can do that. I have 2 EZ1073 (rack versions, not 500 series) and will get 2 STAM 1073EQ in a week.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 30, 2019 9:28:57 GMT -6
Any able to compare to an ez1073? I can do that. I have 2 EZ1073 (rack versions, not 500 series) and will get 2 STAM 1073EQ in a week. Perfect! Thank you!
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Post by christopher on Jun 30, 2019 12:08:24 GMT -6
I think you’re supposed to turn it while listening to hear when the buzz disappears. I had to do this with my SA3A. It was creepy af. That toroid is big and doesn’t look like it wants to be touched. I just got two stams. Haven’t tested them yet but I really hope I don’t have to do it again. DON’T ATTEMPT TO DO THIS IF YOU ARE UNSURE! NEVER(!) mess with stuff while the power is plugged into the wall, even if not turned on. One slip and.. I remember a news story a few years back where a smarter than average 12 year old kid was watching too many YouTube vids and messing with a PC power supply and it didn’t end well. Break the rule at your own peril, so better be very sure of what you are doing. Edit: for stuff like this, I’d unplug from wall: rotate it a little amount, let go and plug in and listen. Unplug, rotate a little more.. Repeat as often as needed. Watch for any big caps that can shock you, I always discharge them to be safe. I’m guessing this design is pretty safe you should be ok or he wouldn’t give you instructions to do this?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 30, 2019 13:00:18 GMT -6
Yeah - don’t ever get near that thing plugged in. There are instruction stam can send. But if you do turn it make sure it has been unplugged for several hours.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 30, 2019 14:00:05 GMT -6
I fail to see how slightly loosening the set screw on the toroid and rotating it while it's plugged in is an issue. I guess it depends how PSU is setup but a lot of audio gear has the toroid separate from the PSU. Which is where one wrong slip can end your life.
Providing you're careful with watching the wires and the slack they have you should be fine. Stay the hell away from the PSU though. Wear a thick rubber glove too.
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