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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 28, 2018 8:17:47 GMT -6
I'd solo the track for the bass player and say there are so many clacks it's distracting in the mix. Then I'd quickly say, f you like it this way, no problem, I'll work with it, and then do just enough to help it, but tell the band there's no cure for this other than retracking.
Thing is, would he just do the same thing again? If so, do your best, but don't go too far out of your way without pay.
By soloing the track, and letting the bass player and his crew hear it, they can't blame you later if it isn't good, although they probably will anyway.
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Post by EmRR on Mar 28, 2018 9:12:16 GMT -6
Sometimes it's the technique they are capable of, and it's all you're gonna get. Sometimes a re-fret is needed, and it ain't gonna happen. And they aren't gonna play a different bass.
But it's still important to chase their intent if possible, versus blowing it up into something totally different.
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Post by saltyjames on Oct 31, 2019 13:56:58 GMT -6
Some bass players really like new strings. And the sound is usually horrid. I have found a way to remedy this. First, I keep a set of nice used flatwound bass strings that I have come to really know and like. They're about 17 years old now. Anyway, when a bass player shows up with a brand new set of strings I say to him, "Great, here's what I need you to do. I need you to take those off and put these special older rust covered strings I have right here on." Normally they are kinda confused. But I just keep saying, "Rock and Roll, Rock and Roll" over and over till they do. They finally give in, especially if I tell them when they have put some tracks with the old strings down we can switch and put the new ones back on. Second, I count on that great human quality of laziness. Once I've got the tracks they never have the steam to swap strings and play again. And if they ever do they are immediately horrified at the sound of the new strings!! Usually, I do this. I mean... I've always wanted to.
Really, I mean... I just need 15 posts to access the classifieds!
Daydream Believer.
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Post by svart on Oct 31, 2019 14:09:51 GMT -6
Some bass players really like new strings. And the sound is usually horrid. I have found a way to remedy this. First, I keep a set of nice used flatwound bass strings that I have come to really know and like. They're about 17 years old now. Anyway, when a bass player shows up with a brand new set of strings I say to him, "Great, here's what I need you to do. I need you to take those off and put these special older rust covered strings I have right here on." Normally they are kinda confused. But I just keep saying, "Rock and Roll, Rock and Roll" over and over till they do. They finally give in, especially if I tell them when they have put some tracks with the old strings down we can switch and put the new ones back on. Second, I count on that great human quality of laziness. Once I've got the tracks they never have the steam to swap strings and play again. And if they ever do they are immediately horrified at the sound of the new strings!! Usually, I do this. I mean... I've always wanted to.
Really, I mean... I just need 15 posts to access the classifieds!
Daydream Believer. LOL
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Post by johneppstein on Oct 31, 2019 19:57:39 GMT -6
I got some bass tracks from a band and the bass sounds clacky as hell. It is the most predominant thing of the performance. I've tried to EQ out the clack, but am having trouble taming it. Anybody have any suggestions? I haven't done a lot of multi band compression. If that's the best solution, if anybody has any tips I'd appreciate it. Honestly, I'd have the guy come in and re-record his bass, but I've met him and he's a mess of discontent and arrogance. So, I'd prefer just making lemons out of lemonade. Bring in a hired gun.
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Post by shoe on Oct 31, 2019 20:17:46 GMT -6
I would try a dynamic eq, or transient designer plugin, personally.
What kind of music is this for by the way?
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Post by thirdeye on Oct 31, 2019 22:04:49 GMT -6
This is an old thread, so I'm sure a solution was found long ago. This same situation happened to me several years ago and I was chasing my tail for a while with different processing chains etc... In the end, it was automation that saved me. Automated every "clack". Once I put my head down and got to work, it really didn't take that long. Just copied and pasted a fader ride on every "clack". Worked great!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2019 10:20:34 GMT -6
I've had OK luck with just scanning frequencies with a sharp bandwidth boost until it's the worst thing ever, then notching that frequency out. Now that I have the Oxford Dynamic EQ, I'd reach for that first I think. If I'm tracking and notice it from the jump, I'll address it at the amp, and if it's just in the technique, I'll ask them to roll the tone knob back on their instrument. I have a friend that does that by default and it works well.
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Post by tasteliketape on Nov 1, 2019 11:07:30 GMT -6
Tokyo Dawn labs nova it’s free. You can set compression on each individual eq point.
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Post by rowmat on Nov 2, 2019 0:29:45 GMT -6
I would try a dynamic eq, or transient designer plugin, personally. What kind of music is this for by the way? It's an ensemble of clickity bass tunes.
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Post by bram on Nov 2, 2019 0:35:20 GMT -6
I know this is an old thread, but rereading it made me think of Eventide’s Physion (formally Fission), which separates recordings into transient and tonal channels and allows you to process them independently.
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Post by schmalzy on Nov 2, 2019 15:06:08 GMT -6
Since other people are replying to this...
Soothe. Just get it and get it over with.
Focus on the clacky frequencies with it and let it do it's dynamic EQ thing!
It's helped me a ton on clicky/rattley/clacky basses and squeaky acoustic guitars when retracking wasn't an option.
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Post by Ward on Nov 3, 2019 6:47:58 GMT -6
Yeah - use an EQ to sweep and find the freq that's clacking...then use a multiband to tame that freq. Fabfilter Pro MB is so super simple - so demo that one if you don't have it. Adding to that... once you find the eq point(S) put a compressor on it and sidechain an eq and boost the hell out of that frequency
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Post by johneppstein on Nov 4, 2019 14:19:55 GMT -6
Sorry, just gotta say this -
Take away the bass player's castanets!
(Ducks....)
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Post by shoe on Nov 4, 2019 20:26:43 GMT -6
Yeah - use an EQ to sweep and find the freq that's clacking...then use a multiband to tame that freq. Fabfilter Pro MB is so super simple - so demo that one if you don't have it. Adding to that... once you find the eq point(S) put a compressor on it and sidechain an eq and boost the hell out of that frequency De-clacker instead of a De-esser.
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