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Post by hadaja on Mar 19, 2019 0:23:00 GMT -6
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 19, 2019 6:27:43 GMT -6
Did you buy it through a dealer?
I had one of these in my MK67 when I had it. That mic had a bit of a tilt though, with slightly less top end and slightly bigger low mids.
Here was Bowie’s description of that tube:
“Telefunken EF86 SILVER version; The most accurate of the EF86s. Fine detail, wide bandwidth, and fast transient response. The highs are airy and bold, but in an articulate, refined way. Bass is deep but also tight. Mids are lean in comparison to some other brands, mostly due to the accuracy of the Tele. They do have a subtle richness and musical nature to them and aren't entirely clinical in their accuracy. Note; there are many cheap Telefunkens out there but it's common for people to salvage them from old radios and sell them "as new", sometimes even in freshly printed boxes. EF86s do not read properly on old-style testers and weak, noisy ones can easily test "like new".”
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 19, 2019 6:30:17 GMT -6
I only buy nos tubes from Bowie: just sayin !
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Post by stam on Mar 19, 2019 8:23:43 GMT -6
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Post by hadaja on Mar 19, 2019 12:50:10 GMT -6
So that number i quoted was the serial number of the tube ?
If that is correct wouldn't that sound alarm bells that the same manufacturer you are recommending to me to buy tubes from is the same place selling the same serial numbers?
Have I interpreted this wrong? Can someone else explain to me where I am going wrong?
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Post by hadaja on Mar 20, 2019 1:06:16 GMT -6
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Post by Ward on Mar 20, 2019 5:51:20 GMT -6
I only buy nos tubes from Bowie: just sayin ! He's the safest source, for us. But there are others out there that make a good backup! I surf 'the bay' all the time and find things that are worth buying.
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 20, 2019 6:03:57 GMT -6
I’ve also had great experiences buying from Bowie. He’s extremely knowledgeable and can explain the differences between the tube variants in a way that makes sense.
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Post by ericn on Mar 20, 2019 6:30:02 GMT -6
I only buy nos tubes from Bowie: just sayin ! He's the safest source, for us. But there are others out there that make a good backup! I surf 'the bay' all the time and find things that are worth buying. If you know what your doing, know the risks and realize your going to make mistakes surf the bay. If you just want it easy Bowie, yes there are others but Bowie tells it like it is at reasonable prices.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 20, 2019 6:38:51 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 20, 2019 7:01:07 GMT -6
Bowie is Christian at proaudiotubes.com
He posts here.
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Post by 000 on Mar 20, 2019 7:24:42 GMT -6
Has anyone received tracking on these yet?
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Post by swafford on Mar 20, 2019 7:38:57 GMT -6
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Post by pouletdegrains on Mar 20, 2019 8:14:57 GMT -6
He's the safest source, for us. But there are others out there that make a good backup! I surf 'the bay' all the time and find things that are worth buying. If you know what your doing, know the risks and realize your going to make mistakes surf the bay. If you just want it easy Bowie, yes there are others but Bowie tells it like it is at reasonable prices. Considering the profit which can be made counterfeiting tubes and how rare NOS tubes are now, I am wondering if there is any non-fake Telefunken tube for sale on eBay. I have never bought any tubes there, given all the variables that have to be checked. Disclaimer: just my thoughts, I am not accusing anyone of anything.
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Post by ericn on Mar 20, 2019 10:28:43 GMT -6
If you know what your doing, know the risks and realize your going to make mistakes surf the bay. If you just want it easy Bowie, yes there are others but Bowie tells it like it is at reasonable prices. Considering the profit which can be made counterfeiting tubes and how rare NOS tubes are now, I am wondering if there is any non-fake Telefunken tube for sale on eBay. I have never bought any tubes there, given all the variables that have to be checked. Disclaimer: just my thoughts, I am not accusing anyone of anything. There are they are just as rare as a true first edition of Hunt For Red October with original dust Jacket.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 20, 2019 10:34:09 GMT -6
Bowie is Christian at proaudiotubes.com He posts here. I was tagging him in the post above to get his take. Not asking who he was. Thanks for the added clarification though. Edit: That link doesn't lead anywhere. I think his email contact is actually proaudiotubes@aol.com I don't know of any website...
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 20, 2019 10:51:26 GMT -6
Thx I had that in a listing but thought it had stopped working
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Post by kilroyrock on Mar 20, 2019 11:00:24 GMT -6
Unfortunately, this is why I haven’t ordered any of Stam’s pieces. I could probably put enough money together to purchase a real U67 or La2a, etc if I gave myself 2 years to do it. But if you saved it, and then waited the time, you'd have the stam plus money to buy plenty of other things! Reminds me of the guy whose girlfriend, who doesn't drink, comments on the number of beers, and the amount of days he has drunk while watching tv and she hasn't. She counts it up, shows it's x years, and x thousands of dollars. Enough to buy a plane! He looks her up and down, then asks her "so where's YOUR plane?"
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Post by jtc111 on Mar 20, 2019 11:08:36 GMT -6
Bowie is Christian at proaudiotubes.com He posts here. That website appears to be no more.
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Post by swafford on Mar 20, 2019 12:22:54 GMT -6
The ProAudioTubes@aol.com address for Christian was working as of last October and was his Paypal addy. He's also been reliable to contact through GS PM.
He's a great guy and superb supplier. I was originally going to go through him to upgrade the SA-67 I ordered via Stam and Christian remarked that due to the U67 reissue, 86's of all kinds were in high demand and they were a lot more costly since the last time I purchased several (for something...). The great thing about Christian is his depth of knowledge and sense of what each tube maker sonically brings to the table. The SA67 and I parted ways very quickly, so I didn't need to go through with the purchase. I did by a buttload of 6Ak5's to roll in my Horch that is currently in MicRehab Purgatory. Maybe someday...
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 20, 2019 17:14:36 GMT -6
I did by a buttload of 6Ak5's to roll in my Horch that is currently in MicRehab Purgatory. Maybe someday... Did Shan vanish? Is he not at Blackbird anymore?
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Post by swafford on Mar 20, 2019 17:51:02 GMT -6
I did by a buttload of 6Ak5's to roll in my Horch that is currently in MicRehab Purgatory. Maybe someday... Did Shan vanish? Is he not at Blackbird anymore? No, he has not vanished. I don't know what he does with his time. I would like my mic back, though.
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Post by bowie on Mar 20, 2019 19:00:08 GMT -6
The ProAudioTubes@aol.com address for Christian was working as of last October and was his Paypal addy. He's also been reliable to contact through GS PM. He's a great guy and superb supplier. I was originally going to go through him to upgrade the SA-67 I ordered via Stam and Christian remarked that due to the U67 reissue, 86's of all kinds were in high demand and they were a lot more costly since the last time I purchased several (for something...). The great thing about Christian is his depth of knowledge and sense of what each tube maker sonically brings to the table. The SA67 and I parted ways very quickly, so I didn't need to go through with the purchase. I did by a buttload of 6Ak5's to roll in my Horch that is currently in MicRehab Purgatory. Maybe someday... ^That is correct, thank you. The .com has been squatted on for 10+ years by someone who does not respond to inquiries. The good ol AOL email address is still alive and well and I'm doing tubes full time through that email. Regarding the Telefunken EF86 topic, I didn't follow the whole discussion so I'm not sure what's being debated but I'll make some comments and people can feel free to ask questions. -The market for EF86s is one of the most polluted right now and even I get scammed all the time. As recently as last week. It's very common for sellers (particularly in EU where EF86s were common) to pull EF86s from old equipment and sell them as "NOS" or "like new". Sometimes even re-printing boxes to make them look 'NIB'. New labels can be put on the glass too. -"Red tip" tubes are usually pulls. I personally avoid them because I only seek NOS/unused EF86s. -EF86s test far too generously on most tube testers so, even if the seller is not out to dupe anyone, they might be selling weak tubes as "tests like new". The digital Amplitrex AT1000 is the only tester I've personally used that seems to give accurate readings on EF86s. This tester is NOT adequate for noise testing though (other than line-grade maybe) and will not give you any idea if a tube is mic-grade. -Even if an EF86 is accurately tested at 100%, it might be a used tube because tubes don't just start at 100%. If an EF86 starts at 150% of spec it might be worn and noisy by the time it gets down to 100%. A tube that starts at 80% though might have the exact same lifespan as one that starts at 150%. This is why getting an unused tube is important. The specs don't really tell you how much life is left or if it's unused. Determining that is more a matter of adding up probabilities and using an experienced eye. -Some sellers 'rejuvenate' used tubes by cooking them at high heater voltages to restore strength. These tubes will test strong but In my experience this is temporary and when I put the tube through my burn-in process, it will usually go back to being a weak tube after a few dozen hours. -I did once find a bulk packed group of NOS Telefunken EF86s, but it's rare to find unused bulk stock. -Scammers on ebay often have 100% positive feedback because people who can spot a fake or a dishonest listing will not buy from them, and thus can't leave feedback. I don't "out" anyone publicly so if you have a question/suspicion that can remain confidential, feel free to message or email me. I don't want to turn this into a sales pitch for my biz either. I just want to share as much info as possible and be transparent about tubes and the tube market. It's only the scammers who benefit from misinformation.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 20, 2019 20:32:58 GMT -6
A typical Bowie reply: richly accurately informative and detailed response that increases your knowledge and improves your ability to take a much better informed tube selection and buying decision.
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Post by Ward on Mar 21, 2019 6:35:58 GMT -6
I did by a buttload of 6Ak5's to roll in my Horch that is currently in MicRehab Purgatory. Maybe someday... Did Shan vanish? Is he not at Blackbird anymore? Sinsay has gone on walkabout. That's all the information we have at this time. Keep faith
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