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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 9, 2018 16:45:29 GMT -6
Just bought one of these and have been using it to track a female singer. It's freaking unbelievably good. Super, super smooth with no glassy-ness imparted sometimes by the Sta-Level...Not as big on bottom, but definitely has a nice thickness. I've played around with mono drums and it can get a nice dirty drum parallel thing going...fantastic on bass - made the bass instantly more euphonic.
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Post by drbill on Feb 9, 2018 16:48:14 GMT -6
Do you have an LA2a or 3a John? How is the Chandler compared to those? (If you do...)
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 9, 2018 17:01:55 GMT -6
Do you have an LA2a or 3a John? How is the Chandler compared to those? (If you do...) I don't, actually. Damn good question, though. Do you know I have NEVER used an LA3A? And if this is what a good one sounded like, I'm an LA3A fan! I can say this, It's gain reduction is as transparent as the CL-1B, but with a thicker footprint imparted on the tone...
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Post by drbill on Feb 9, 2018 17:37:56 GMT -6
The 2a and 3a are actually quite different. The 2a is thick and creamy, and the 3a is quite transparent but with a nice spank. I know, I know kind of contradictory, but that's how I hear it. Both are must have's IMO. I seem to never be able to get enough Opto's. LOL I've got the JLM LA500a's as well, they are great, but I don't like them as much as the Serpent SA3a's. Anyway, I was just curious. Thanks. bp
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Post by drbill on Feb 9, 2018 17:42:27 GMT -6
Do you have an LA2a or 3a John? How is the Chandler compared to those? (If you do...) Do you know I have NEVER used an LA3A? .. PS - contemplating opto things...... I think if there was a fire and I could only grab my 3a or 2a, as painful as that would be, I think I'd have to grab my 3a's. They are something special that I can't seem to find elsewhere. My dual 2a's were built by DanD to the highest of specs (sowter iron, etc.), but there's just something about the Serpent SA3a's (also DanD built, but with the standard components serpent provides) that resonates with me......
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 9, 2018 20:54:18 GMT -6
I could be attributing this wrongly to the sta-level, but I don’t hear the artifacts I sometimes hear with the sta...don’t know whether it’s just saturation or whatever, but with this tg, it’s pristine.
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Post by johneppstein on Feb 9, 2018 21:46:03 GMT -6
I could be attributing this wrongly to the sta-level, but I don’t hear the artifacts I sometimes hear with the sta...don’t know whether it’s just saturation or whatever, but with this tg, it’s pristine. Well, that's not surprising - the thing about a good opto compressor is that essentially it's a passive device - there are no active elements in the audio path of the the gain reduction circuit. that means that any "character" imbuing elements are in the input and output circuitry and transformers - the gain reduction device itself is just a (photo)resistor. The resistance element is optically decoupled from the gain reduction control electronics. All other types of compressors have one or another type of active gain control element in the direct audio path, which is where artifacts come from. That's the beauty of opto compressors!
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Post by jeremygillespie on Feb 9, 2018 21:53:09 GMT -6
To me, a 2a is the equvilent of a 47 and a 3a is a 67. For some reason that’s what I always think of.
Love me some 3a’s. The 2a’s I can do without. There are 2 Teletroncs models sitting in the room I always work in and I hardly ever reach for them. Wish I had more 3a’s
John, have you used the inward connections Brute? If so, how does it compare to the TG?
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Post by guitfiddler on Feb 9, 2018 22:01:24 GMT -6
To me, a 2a is the equvilent of a 47 and a 3a is a 67. For some reason that’s what I always think of. Love me some 3a’s. The 2a’s I can do without. There are 2 Teletroncs models sitting in the room I always work in and I hardly ever reach for them. Wish I had more 3a’s John, have you used the inward connections Brute? If so, how does it compare to the TG? The Brute is one I have been looking at for some time, interested as well? Another one is the Serpent Audio Chimera. I would love to get all my chains into a 500 rack.
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Post by ragan on Feb 9, 2018 22:26:35 GMT -6
I’ve only really spent much time with the plug in versions and the GAP 3a but I friggin love that sound.
My 3a lust just flared back up thinking about it. I’d like to grab a pair of those Serpent versions sometime soon.
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Post by guitfiddler on Feb 10, 2018 7:21:20 GMT -6
I’ve only really spent much time with the plug in versions and the GAP 3a but I friggin love that sound. My 3a lust just flared back up thinking about it. I’d like to grab a pair of those Serpent versions sometime soon. I think I need at least one of every model of Serpent Audio! I do love me some Chandler though also! Attachments:
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Post by guitfiddler on Feb 10, 2018 7:25:32 GMT -6
Now that’s a spicy meatball!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 10, 2018 7:43:29 GMT -6
I wish more guys used a custom meter rather than this same meter on almost every 500 series compressor.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 10, 2018 9:08:11 GMT -6
To me, a 2a is the equvilent of a 47 and a 3a is a 67. For some reason that’s what I always think of. Love me some 3a’s. The 2a’s I can do without. There are 2 Teletroncs models sitting in the room I always work in and I hardly ever reach for them. Wish I had more 3a’s John, have you used the inward connections Brute? If so, how does it compare to the TG? I have. I thought it was excellent, but doesn’t have the extra weight that this TG seems to have. The Brute is a great piece though for sure.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 10, 2018 9:12:17 GMT -6
I’ve only really spent much time with the plug in versions and the GAP 3a but I friggin love that sound. My 3a lust just flared back up thinking about it. I’d like to grab a pair of those Serpent versions sometime soon. I think I need at least one of every model of Serpent Audio! I do love me some Chandler though also! I briefly played around with the Chimera a couple years ago and thought it sounded fantastic. All of these units I’m talking about loving are all solid state...actually thought the CL-1B was a bit glassy/sheeny and I guess that’s the tubes.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 10, 2018 9:13:40 GMT -6
That being said, I didn’t feel like the RS124 was glassy in any respect.
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Post by guitfiddler on Feb 10, 2018 13:17:20 GMT -6
That being said, I didn’t feel like the RS124 was glassy in any respect. How would you describe the RS124 if you could put it into words?
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Post by notneeson on Feb 10, 2018 14:32:25 GMT -6
Mixing at a joint w/ a Chimera this week, need to give it a shot.
Another general vote of confidence for the Brute: I really like that box.
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Post by spock on Feb 10, 2018 19:02:45 GMT -6
I wish more guys used a custom meter rather than this same meter on almost every 500 series compressor. Fwiw, we’ve been using that meter in our little devil compressor since 2009.
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Post by adamjbrass on Feb 10, 2018 19:06:20 GMT -6
That being said, I didn’t feel like the RS124 was glassy in any respect. yea, its "dry" but also uber "velvety" the STA is much more wet and "glassy" (if you mean, tonally polished) to my ears too,
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 10, 2018 20:26:14 GMT -6
I wish more guys used a custom meter rather than this same meter on almost every 500 series compressor. Fwiw, we’ve been using that meter in our little devil compressor since 2009. Even if you guys were using it first, it's not some custom unit. Little Devil, TG Opto, Inward Connections, Retro Instruments, Shadow Hills, Anamod... Not trying to slag you guys either, love the Chandler stuff I've owned.
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Post by guitfiddler on Feb 10, 2018 21:10:51 GMT -6
Huge Chandler fan here
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 10, 2018 21:14:35 GMT -6
That being said, I didn’t feel like the RS124 was glassy in any respect. yea, its "dry" but also uber "velvety" the STA is much more wet and "glassy" (if you mean, tonally polished) to my ears too, Wet and dry is a good way to describe it. Maybe “sheen”...
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 10, 2018 21:18:00 GMT -6
Honestly, this is one of the first times I’ve basically completely ignored the meter on a comp...just because the damn thing sounds so good...get the attack and release where you want it, then turn the input both ways until it sounds damn good. But that big ass Frankenstein meter from the rs124 would look fancy on the opto lol
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Post by guitfiddler on Feb 11, 2018 8:44:45 GMT -6
BAM, good name for a new compressor! Big Ass Meter! We just need one more compressor! Lol
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