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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 25, 2018 12:27:25 GMT -6
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Post by c0rtland on Jan 25, 2018 12:46:52 GMT -6
Very nice. I welcome these updates.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 25, 2018 14:14:33 GMT -6
This will be something like the 10th update Apple's given for free since I bought Logic Pro five years ago. I'm still glad I never bought into the Pro Tools thing. I usually wait a few days or weeks to see if there are any issues with UAD or old Waves plugs.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 25, 2018 14:34:40 GMT -6
Yeah - nice update...I've got to start figuring Logic out a little more.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 25, 2018 16:25:04 GMT -6
Many of Logic's plugs are actually quite good, and I like some of their sampled instruments too.
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Post by terryrocks on Jan 25, 2018 16:32:23 GMT -6
I love logic. It’s super deep and has some great sounding VIs and plugs. Spent 10-15 years on protools and since I began using logic 2 years ago, I’ve stopped using protools completely.
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Post by wiz on Jan 25, 2018 16:45:28 GMT -6
I am watching the Groove 3 10.4 update video the changes around tempo, and flex time seem amazing. popmann this is going to blow your mind... 8) Cheers Wiz
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 25, 2018 16:48:37 GMT -6
Logic has pro and cons but since X I am all in for writing music in Logic.... BTW there is no update yet....
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OK it is in the App Store but only runs with OSX 10.12 I am still on 10.11....so not for me.
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OK now I am confused german product page says it still runs with 10.11???
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 26, 2018 10:26:44 GMT -6
Just watched a tutorial on the basics of the update. I love that the new algorithm type reverb has such intuitive and easy access features, and the've added API, Neve and Pultec style EQ's. I have five different Pultec plugs already, but the API looks simple and might solve some EQ issues I've had. This is kind of a serious update, and it makes some 3rd party plug-ins redundant.
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Post by popmann on Jan 26, 2018 10:54:00 GMT -6
Yeah, it looks like one can finally not fiddle with a phucking phone in the middle of my studio to record a take in Music Memos for it's auto tempo mapping then AirDropping it to the laptop. That always seemed silly to me--that I'd be sitting here with a lovely mic hanging over my head, but let's record into the phone because it will do the tempo mapping quicker (and actually BETTER) than recording directly to Logic.
I've shut the Mac off and uninstalled a bunch. Gone back to Windows to finish the record. But, at some point, I'll grab this and see what they're doing. Make sure they didn't break my javascripting for the Drummer.
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 26, 2018 12:29:45 GMT -6
Cool new stuff need ot buy a new mac....
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Post by popmann on Jan 26, 2018 14:21:41 GMT -6
Cool new stuff need ot buy a new mac.... Welcome to the business model.
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Post by wiz on Jan 26, 2018 15:44:45 GMT -6
Cool new stuff need ot buy a new mac.... Welcome to the business model. Watch that! Then go by a iMac... 8) 8) Cheers Wiz
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Post by popmann on Jan 26, 2018 17:32:08 GMT -6
Yes. I saw. That's what I mean. Take away the drummer, and the tempo mapping (which this is just putting the phone app capability into LPX) is the only reason I would consider a Mac next time around. Why I was asking about VI latency with external boxes. I've never seen it work--Apple forces you to use them now. No more Mac Pro with pci. No HDX. That's all Windows exclusive now. But, I can build a Mac with pci....anyway--the only reason I'm considering is the logic drummer.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 26, 2018 19:42:19 GMT -6
Hey popmann if you remember what thread it was where you explained how to use drummer with third party kits, would you mind linking?
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Post by c0rtland on Jan 26, 2018 20:13:39 GMT -6
Hey popmann if you remember what thread it was where you explained how to use drummer with third party kits, would you mind linking? that's news to me. Would be nice info to have.
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Post by mhbunch on Jan 26, 2018 20:32:25 GMT -6
Hey popmann if you remember what thread it was where you explained how to use drummer with third party kits, would you mind linking? This is going off memory, can’t you just control click- export as midi file?
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Post by popmann on Jan 26, 2018 20:59:36 GMT -6
Hey popmann if you remember what thread it was where you explained how to use drummer with third party kits, would you mind linking? Apple doesn't want you to do this. I wrote code to allow me to do it. I wrote variations for Superior, BFD, and Addictive's maps. The only thing you can do out of the box usefully is to to it after the fact--and continue to use their high hat. 1) Use DKD to program the song to where everything feels like you want it. 2) Load the "big" producer kit version of the kit in DKD (if you weren't using it to do the programming)--so that you can render the high hat as audio. 3) Copy the Drummer track parts to a new Superior track as MIDI. 4) Delete all F#1, G#1, A#1 notes (the high hats) 5) Pick your kit in Superior. That's all you can do out of the box. I will also point out that the bang for the buck way to do this isn't even the above, it's to use the most appropriate DKD ProDucer Kit....render as audio....then point that MIDI at the third party and just render the room mics. It won't matter than the high hat articulations are wrong because they're just room mics. But, drum tone largely dependent on room mics. That's all I've done on little quicky demo things I've done like these covers: soundcloud.com/langsongs/4no1_vsprawk-1bsoundcloud.com/langsongs/whisper-swung-1aI'm quite happy with where my EP has turned out, too....using my custom code to marry the Logic Drummer to SD3, but it really still took a lot of work. More than I imagine I'm willing to do again. I'll see with the next round how much having the code complete DURING the programming helps speed it up. in theory, it should make it golden--just like I'm using it all as designed, only with more dynamic, better sounding samples. If it does, I'll build me a new Mac.
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Post by bradd on Jan 26, 2018 21:26:05 GMT -6
I downloaded the update tonight. I’m pretty impressed. The new EQs and Chroma sound really good. I need to try out the strings and brass.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 26, 2018 22:20:55 GMT -6
Does anyone know if UAD/Apollo are OK with the update? Waves, Relab, Slate too?
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 27, 2018 1:52:55 GMT -6
Does anyone know if UAD/Apollo are OK with the update? Waves, Relab, Slate too? Before I do any major update, I make a bootable clone of my hard drive. Shut down the machine, reboot using the clone drive, install the new software and do an extensive bug check. I’ll only update my working system after ensuring I don’t have any problems. It’s a good practice and helps insure that you don’t do something you can’t undo or that won’t give you massive headaches down the line.
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Post by wiz on Jan 27, 2018 3:51:47 GMT -6
I just copy the logic app off somewhere safe, update and put it back if there are issues.
Cheers
Wiz
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Post by ericbradley on Jan 27, 2018 4:52:36 GMT -6
@johnkenn & popmann . You are going to love the new Articulation sets.
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 27, 2018 8:27:04 GMT -6
Cool new stuff need ot buy a new mac.... Welcome to the business model. LOL its not a business modell its blackmailing your customers. The old mac pros are still very powerful and many studios still use them. Anyway I am knowing Logic since the days of EMagic and the BS started with Apple. To be true what they made out of Logic is fantastic. But they got a few thousands already from me already. So what about a monthly fee without those stupid restrictions... Cant run on this machine, but on this one, you need this OS the other one from last year ist not working?? Thats the opposite of freedom for the user.... And I am very very careful with OS Updates and Logic, the last time I did it I had a lot of trouble with Logic X. I would be pleased not to see every year a new OS. They should concentrate on making pro software stable and creative.... But no they always go on with new restrictions. Its a love and hate realtionship like with AVID.
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Post by popmann on Jan 27, 2018 9:28:45 GMT -6
my point is...they are GIVING you Logic....GIVING you all these updates....new features in "free" update....to get you to update the "free" OS....which eventually needs new hardware to run. They do the same thing with iThings.
Eric....so, that was the first thing I thought when I saw them....can you use them on the Drummer Track class?
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