I feel the 8C is in another league than the Amphion's although they share a characteristic in the ability to perceive midrange problems obviously. I have never heard any system translate like the Dutch and Dutch. MIxes sound better outside of my room and I am working fast.
Bumping this thread to keep the speaker correction thread away from becoming a Dutch and Dutch thread. I wholly agree with what nomatic says in his posts. These monitors are giving info in a way that to me feels like a master key into audio. Tons of detail and they'll definitely show you what needs to be addressed in the mix, yet are super fun and non fatiguing to work on.
I wonder if it would be totally useless to try the 8C's if I couldn't use the wall bounce feature. I'm really interested the design but I don't think that feature would work in my control room.
Tough to say. If it's a traditional control room with thick bass trapping on the front wall you'd probably want to install a hard surface for them to use. They do like to be close to the wall which I imagine would be tricky in rooms designed for the monitors to be far away from walls. There's a freestanding mode but I haven't used mine like that and couldn't really say if it'd be the same result as using the wall bounce. I guess that's the trade off of tech that works so well as designed and flies contrary to conventional placement. I met up with Tyner and Martijn recently and it sounds like they have more demo units these days so I'm sure they could help you out. I'm curious how they'd work for you.
Everyone still cool on the D&D 8C's? I'm going to upgrade from MM45's after I finish mixing our current record. Thinking I might go down to Austin to give them a listen.
Edit: finish mixing
Really love mine still. I had MM35's for 9 years before them, D&D's are much more pleasant while working or even just listening. For me it's much easier to tell what's going on, I'm sure part of that is the built in room tuning. If I were to have one slight criticism it's that I do feel a bit more emotionally connected to my ATC 20's (with sub), however, the reality is no one would be able to tell what I did on what and I'm definitely the weak link in either set of these amazing monitors.
Post by christophert on Sept 13, 2022 3:49:53 GMT -6
I love my 8C's - plus my second pair of nearfield monitors: PSI A21's. The 8C's really like to be pushed up close to the wall - and due to my 5 meter deep mix room, this allows me to sit in the sweet spot (roughly 38%) The 8C's get down REALLY low. Excellent mastering and mixing monitors. The PSI's are killer for tracking = vibey and dynamic / great bottom end.
I still Love the 8Cs and no longer think about monitors.
I am dealer BTW but I bought my two pairs before I became one.
My exact same thoughts.I've lost all interest in looking for monitors. The last speakers I compared them to in my room last year where the Ex Machina Pulsars. no contest the 8c's had so much more 3d depth and extension down low.I had them side by side for around 3 weeks. the 8c low end is effortless punchy, feels accurate.. the pulsars started struggling with medium volume low stuff..like less headroom. and the 8c rear wall dsp sub alignment is priceless for my space.