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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2013 6:43:52 GMT -6
It would be a single channel 500 series unit, as its currently designed. I think I might need to get pre-orders for at about 20 to be able to make a run of 50...something like that. Here's something Sam Pura mixed using nothing but my two prototype filter modules. He bounced all the tracks through the units individually or in pairs. So it's actually rad enough to do things other than just HPF and LPF.  Brad sounds kinda like jeff's VC528 in function |
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Post by BradM on Jul 29, 2013 8:43:55 GMT -6
It's not anything like it really...it's much more flexible and could be considered an EQ and not just a filter box. I do want some of those Missing Links! At some point I'll reveal more. I'm talking to some folks about how to make it a reality.
Brad
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 29, 2013 11:02:53 GMT -6
bit of a cross post but just saw the TB audio 500 series dimension D...... Who says advertising doesn't work... |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 29, 2013 11:06:08 GMT -6
I wish people would stop making new preamps so I could sleep peacefully at night.  I just posted in another thread how we're all a little preamp crazy...but damn, it's like baseball cards, isn't it? As Cowboy says, could be worse - could be hookers... |
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Post by jsteiger on Jul 29, 2013 11:14:42 GMT -6
I wish people would stop making new preamps so I could sleep peacefully at night. I just posted in another thread how we're all a little preamp crazy...but damn, it's like baseball cards, isn't it? As Cowboy says, could be worse - could be hookers... Or heroin..... Although I assume the addiction part may be similar, the end result is much different. It's still hard to explain to my better half..... |
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Post by 51xAudio on Jul 29, 2013 11:20:48 GMT -6
Why aren't we stopping preamps?
It is the (nearly) only thing a computer can't do.
In a few years you will only have digital microphones.
But what to do with the legacy Microphones?
Digital gain doesn't add the mojo (yet).
And the good old Microphones can't be connected to any digital input.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 29, 2013 11:21:34 GMT -6
I just posted in another thread how we're all a little preamp crazy...but damn, it's like baseball cards, isn't it? As Cowboy says, could be worse - could be hookers... Or heroin..... Although I assume the addiction part may be similar, the end result is much different. It's still hard to explain to my better half..... Ha - yeah - my wife doesn't buy the whole, "Hey Honey - can I have these $7000 Barefoots?...Or I could ride the horse..." |
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 29, 2013 11:26:08 GMT -6
Why aren't we stopping preamps? you cant stop preamps, no one can stop preamps, only preamps can stop preamps, and they can't stop preamps either...8/ |
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Post by horvitz on Jul 29, 2013 13:26:22 GMT -6
Jeff, I've said a few times that your pres are like the the DIY gateway drug. |
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Post by pan60 on Jul 29, 2013 19:29:29 GMT -6
Interested in adding one or two of these, to start a 500 collection. I read on the LaChapell site that they require 210ma+ power. Can you recommend a good rack? It would suck to have power issues if you tried to fill the rack up. They work fine in a lunchbox. since they are two slots wide they fall within the allowed current specs. I have only found a small few module that where some to be concerned with as to power. Having said that would pertain to the new lunchboxs. the older ones where under powered but things have changed sine the earliest of days. As for pres eqs and comp most all I find very expectable and find the tech that I have spoke with see no issue with the 32 volt the lunchbox supplies, that more then some 24 volt high end 19" gear out there. We are starting to see a lot of entry level gear but I see nothing wrong with that either as it has its place. I think there is much more entry level 19" rack gear out there then 500 format gear? |
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Post by pan60 on Jul 29, 2013 19:31:04 GMT -6
Is Pan60 on this forum? He seems to be one of the 500 series guru's. you know it! thanks for your kind words. |
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Post by littlesicily on Jul 29, 2013 21:33:41 GMT -6
Is Pan60 on this forum? He seems to be one of the 500 series guru's. you know it! thanks for your kind words. Glad you're here, Pan60! |
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Post by ulriggribbons on Jan 9, 2015 12:28:18 GMT -6
that is pretty steep? In kit form, we could throw that together in an hour... oh jeff, where art thou? Just found this. I think you missed the point of my product, and that the Guillotine is not the product you were looking for. The Guillotine as a product was about pushing the envelope of design. New design, not some cheap, rehashed, me too, take someone else's design and sell it as new product kinda thing( which seems par for the course in new products these days). The Guillotine has 32 fixed frequencies per band in a digitally controlled analog filter, using custom designed discrete opamps. So perfect recall every time. Analog signal path. Digital Control. Saying you can throw that together in an hour is a tad insulting. I do get it. You wanted cheap filters. That's not the Guillotine. Sorry if that comes off like I've got my grumpy pants on, but it is a product I'm proud of. Regards jon |
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 9, 2015 13:31:52 GMT -6
that is pretty steep? In kit form, we could throw that together in an hour... oh jeff, where art thou? Just found this. I think you missed the point of my product, and that the Guillotine is not the product you were looking for. The Guillotine as a product was about pushing the envelope of design. New design, not some cheap, rehashed, me too, take someone else's design and sell it as new product kinda thing( which seems par for the course in new products these days). The Guillotine has 32 fixed frequencies per band in a digitally controlled analog filter, using custom designed discrete opamps. So perfect recall every time. Analog signal path. Digital Control. Saying you can throw that together in an hour is a tad insulting. I do get it. You wanted cheap filters. That's not the Guillotine. Sorry if that comes off like I've got my grumpy pants on, but it is a product I'm proud of. Regards jon  Hey Jon, mea culpa, my flippant comment belittling your hard work is regrettable, i've never tried your filter rig so i can't really speak to it's value now can I smh. In no way was i trying to suggesting i could design something like that in an hour, I was speaking of assembling diy which is also a regrettable assumption on my part, sometimes my DIY core takes me out of the retail reality that we live in, the price is totally within reason for a plugnplay device. I'd like to try the G filter, the parts look tops and i have no doubt it sounds really good. again, sorry bout that T |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 9, 2015 14:45:25 GMT -6
that is pretty steep? In kit form, we could throw that together in an hour... oh jeff, where art thou? Just found this. I think you missed the point of my product, and that the Guillotine is not the product you were looking for. The Guillotine as a product was about pushing the envelope of design. New design, not some cheap, rehashed, me too, take someone else's design and sell it as new product kinda thing( which seems par for the course in new products these days). The Guillotine has 32 fixed frequencies per band in a digitally controlled analog filter, using custom designed discrete opamps. So perfect recall every time. Analog signal path. Digital Control. Saying you can throw that together in an hour is a tad insulting. I do get it. You wanted cheap filters. That's not the Guillotine. Sorry if that comes off like I've got my grumpy pants on, but it is a product I'm proud of. Regards jon See! Just what these forums are for! Glad to have you here, ulriggribbons |
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Post by Randge on Jan 9, 2015 17:56:37 GMT -6
There's no question that there are compromises made between the regular versions and the 500 series. It's like they're light versions. Power supply/voltage limitations are present and some designers and techs have spoken to this. And then there's the upside: There are also pieces of gear specifically designed for the 500 architecture like the API and the CAPI stuff. How many "channel strips" are available in the 500 format? I see a lot of separate preamp, EQ and Comp modules, but I'd like to know if there are enough 500 series modules with at least pre and EQ available to make it worth going down that path. The MPA 575 Ingram would be something to try, Ward. A great sounding full channelstrip in one 500 series slot. It is a real engineering feat to pack that much in a box and make it sound like it does. If you call Eric Ingram, I am sure he can set you up with one to try out. I really like mine for acoustic instruments especially. The pre is pretty clean, maybe a hint of color, but the sweep eq and hipass filters get me in the ballpark quick when its time to set tones for a full session of 6 all acoustic guys playing at once. I use compression pretty sparingly, but you can really get a smooth compression out of the program dependent comp. I have found it to really shine on mandolin lately. It takes the peaks off of the chop and maintains clarity and doesn't murk up when they are picking a solo. They are a big bang for your buck to me. I meant to get one in John Kennedy's hands already and got sidetracked. My 2 cents and love for a cool product. R |
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Post by Randge on Jan 9, 2015 18:01:26 GMT -6
I am considering the Harrison Ford Filters combo from our boy, Dan Deurloo and Drip Electronics. 8 channels of HP and LP in a 1 rack unit. I have 8 channels of AU 300 McCurdy preamps and think that would be so handy to go with them.
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Post by ulriggribbons on Jan 9, 2015 18:45:00 GMT -6
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Post by Randge on Jan 9, 2015 18:57:20 GMT -6
Sorry, I didn't see the post about keeping it 500 series till now. I will add the Inward Connections Impulse to the list. There are pretty good non-tube versions of Pultec style eq, but the 500 series Impulse seems to really stand above a lot of the 19" ones for me. Sadly, they are now discontinued. I want another one, but they have elevated in price since they were discontinued. Only one on ebay at this time and none anywhere else to be found.
R
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Post by Randge on Jan 9, 2015 18:58:43 GMT -6
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 9, 2015 19:14:32 GMT -6
I am considering the Harrison Ford Filters combo from our boy, Dan Deurloo and Drip Electronics. 8 channels of HP and LP in a 1 rack unit. I have 8 channels of AU 300 McCurdy preamps and think that would be so handy to go with them. R this is something i've been pining over for a couple of years now(i think its just dan and no drip?), i will be building at least 3 of these eventually, for better or worse, i'm a filter maniac. |
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Post by Randge on Jan 9, 2015 20:54:04 GMT -6
Cool. I wasn't sure. They will surely be handy as heck for tracking day.
R
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Post by Ward on Jan 10, 2015 2:34:40 GMT -6
There's no question that there are compromises made between the regular versions and the 500 series. It's like they're light versions. Power supply/voltage limitations are present and some designers and techs have spoken to this. And then there's the upside: There are also pieces of gear specifically designed for the 500 architecture like the API and the CAPI stuff. How many "channel strips" are available in the 500 format? I see a lot of separate preamp, EQ and Comp modules, but I'd like to know if there are enough 500 series modules with at least pre and EQ available to make it worth going down that path. The MPA 575 Ingram would be something to try, Ward. A great sounding full channelstrip in one 500 series slot. It is a real engineering feat to pack that much in a box and make it sound like it does. If you call Eric Ingram, I am sure he can set you up with one to try out. I really like mine for acoustic instruments especially. The pre is pretty clean, maybe a hint of color, but the sweep eq and hipass filters get me in the ballpark quick when its time to set tones for a full session of 6 all acoustic guys playing at once. I use compression pretty sparingly, but you can really get a smooth compression out of the program dependent comp. I have found it to really shine on mandolin lately. It takes the peaks off of the chop and maintains clarity and doesn't murk up when they are picking a solo. They are a big bang for your buck to me. I meant to get one in John Kennedy's hands already and got sidetracked. My 2 cents and love for a cool product. R Thanks, Rand. I'll look into that and also look you up next time I'm in Nashvegas! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 10, 2015 19:37:11 GMT -6
Wonder what ever happened to pan60? |
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Post by outuvphaze on Jan 12, 2015 1:51:31 GMT -6
So a few years ago I sold all my 500 series gear with the thought that anything I wanted or needed was available in standard 19" or other rack gear. Also, when I compared 500 series modules to their direct/indirect 19" rack counterparts, the 500 series units seemed like "lesser than" versions. But, a few items drew me back in: 1) CAPI VP28. This alone was the worth the price of admission for a rack. I now have four VP28's w/ various DOA combinations. 2) LaChapell 583s. Such a smooth and beautiful tube pre that is unlike any other tube pre I've tried, and I've tried a lot. It's just spectacular on acgtr and vocals. QUESTION: What other 500 series modules provide something unavailable or superior to standard 19" rack configurations? The question here is not "convenience" but rather "usefulness" and "uniquness". Hi John, 100 % behind you on the 583's. I go back and forth between the Tele and Mullard tubes. I have 2 of them for upright bass, they also sound nice on grand piano. |
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