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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 23, 2017 15:40:47 GMT -6
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Post by swurveman on Jun 23, 2017 15:45:55 GMT -6
Take it for what it's worth, but this guy has a pretty damn good studio and he bought the Antelope Orion 32. And I'm saying that as a guy who has two Aurora 16's, which he says he replaced the Orion 32 with. To see that he thinks that the Antelope Orion is just as good as the Aurora 16 is pretty amazing seeing that you get the same amount of channels for less than 1/2 the price. That being said, I wouldn't buy anything without listening to all the converters I'd be interested in buying first.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 23, 2017 15:53:38 GMT -6
Link ?
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Aug 31, 2017 16:53:41 GMT -6
Update: I decided to go 24 I/O of good ole Apogee Symphony MK1 Thunderbridge. Couldn't be happier. If I can't make music with this rig, I can't make music. Rock solid.
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 31, 2017 16:55:26 GMT -6
With your ghost must be sweet !
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Aug 31, 2017 16:56:25 GMT -6
Yep. I updated the power supply on the console to a Blue Dog. The different isn't slight I'll tell you.
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Post by ericn on Aug 31, 2017 18:07:53 GMT -6
Yep. I updated the power supply on the console to a Blue Dog. The different isn't slight I'll tell you. Good to see you around here I was getting worried!
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 31, 2017 18:13:37 GMT -6
I hear ya Herbie ! I have a delta 16/4/2 on the way with an upgraded psu by Jim Williams: going to start off right !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2017 18:47:01 GMT -6
The Blue Dogs are looking very solid and well made. I already read from others that it is quite an upgrade worth considering. I guess sooner or later i will get one for my console, too. Tim is a nice guy to deal with, he was very helpful when i mailed him for information about typical Soundtracs console problems and schematics in the past. Competent and good customer experience.
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Post by johneppstein on Aug 31, 2017 20:18:12 GMT -6
Which would you choose? I'm still with a split platform Symphony/Apollo but I'd like to switch to one smooth interface that has at least 16, preferably 24 outputs without sacrificing quality. What's out there these days? I've honestly kinna been out of the loop for several months. But getting ready to gear back up. Any help would be greatly appreciated. C Antelope Orion 32. And you end up with 8 extra for effects, mixing down back to the DAW, or anything else you might need a few extra channels for. On my system I have a 24 channel deck with a 32 channel console, so it's a perfect match. I love mine, except for the DB25 connectors, but those seem to be a common affliction these days.
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Post by Ward on Aug 31, 2017 20:46:16 GMT -6
Just something to think about, johneppstein, I'm fairly certain DB25s aren't going to be discontinued anytime soon. So let's just use the most robust ones we can find,
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Post by Ward on Aug 31, 2017 20:47:50 GMT -6
Update: I decided to go 24 I/O of good ole Apogee Symphony MK1 Thunderbridge. Couldn't be happier. If I can't make music with this rig, I can't make music. Rock solid. Kind of reminds me of someone else and the constant changing carousel of microphones and stay-levels and Kempers and other things. LOL But I'm sure you'll be happy, Herbie-Ray!!
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Post by bradd on Aug 31, 2017 20:52:40 GMT -6
Update: I decided to go 24 I/O of good ole Apogee Symphony MK1 Thunderbridge. Couldn't be happier. If I can't make music with this rig, I can't make music. Rock solid. Yep. This is rock solid for me as well.
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Post by johneppstein on Aug 31, 2017 21:48:13 GMT -6
Just something to think about, johneppstein , I'm fairly certain DB25s aren't going to be discontinued anytime soon. So let's just use the most robust ones we can find, Yeah, I know. It's a bit depressing. It's lucky that Apple doesn't control the form. I guess...
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 1, 2017 1:58:37 GMT -6
I just bought the db25 to 8 male trs cables to go to my bay: works fine!
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Post by rowmat on Sept 1, 2017 2:51:02 GMT -6
Just something to think about, johneppstein , I'm fairly certain DB25s aren't going to be discontinued anytime soon. So let's just use the most robust ones we can find, Yeah, I know. It's a bit depressing. It's lucky that Apple doesn't control the form. I guess... I dunno maybe they're thinking about it.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Sept 1, 2017 4:54:32 GMT -6
Update: I decided to go 24 I/O of good ole Apogee Symphony MK1 Thunderbridge. Couldn't be happier. If I can't make music with this rig, I can't make music. Rock solid. Kind of reminds me of someone else and the constant changing carousel of microphones and stay-levels and Kempers and other things. LOL But I'm sure you'll be happy, Herbie-Ray!! Ha! I've had an Apogee Symphony for many year. Just never had 24 full I/o. And I've had the same Kemper for years, and amps, mics etc. Oh and I've been married to the same woman for 26 years. I fear change lol.
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Post by svart on Sept 1, 2017 7:13:30 GMT -6
Just something to think about, johneppstein , I'm fairly certain DB25s aren't going to be discontinued anytime soon. So let's just use the most robust ones we can find, Yeah, I know. It's a bit depressing. It's lucky that Apple doesn't control the form. I guess... Why? DB25's work fine, and have for decades, which is why they're the standard. If Apple controlled the form it'd be a small, high-density, proprietary connector with marginal insertion lifespan and lack of strain relief that needs to be replaced every few months by folks who are too rabidly fanboy about Apple to see that their design practice is to make as much money selling replacement products as they did on the original products that break suspiciously easy.
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Post by svart on Sept 1, 2017 7:18:41 GMT -6
I know this thread is old and the OP chose a product already, but I use the SSL Alphalink AX. 24 analog I/O, 24 digital ADAT I/O. I also use the MX4 PCIE DSP card over optical MADI. I've had very little trouble over the years with either my 1st generation Alphalink/Mixpander (serial number 003..), or this 2nd generation MADI/MX4 unit. Setting them up is a little time consuming and IF you have a problem it can be confusing, but overall I've had almost a decade of trouble-free experience with them.
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Post by svart on Sept 1, 2017 7:30:17 GMT -6
Yeah, I know. It's a bit depressing. It's lucky that Apple doesn't control the form. I guess... I dunno maybe they're thinking about it. It's simple if you look at it as a marketing move. Apple has built a fanbase that identifies itself as Apple users. It's essentially a group of people that will defend Apple's decisions no matter what those are because their own identity depends on owning/using Apple products. These Apple apologists are easy to identify because usually the first things out of their mouths are defensive remarks. Apple uses these folks as their first line defense, and as their first line of marketing.. Word of mouth is a powerful marketing tool. To the fanboys, it's a badge of honor. To Apple, it's free marketing and labor. Apple knows this, and incrementally changes it's products in ways to keep that fanbase buying new hardware on a regular basis. It's a marketing technique called "Planned obsolescence". Apple's partners love this because it keeps people buying their newest hardware as well. Funny thing is that Apple has essentially branded planned obsolescence as "innovation", even though innovation comes from necessity, and nothing they've done in years is necessary. It's another marketing ploy to make folks feel like they are on the cutting edge of greatness.
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 1, 2017 13:09:27 GMT -6
Yeah, I know. It's a bit depressing. It's lucky that Apple doesn't control the form. I guess... Why? DB25's work fine, and have for decades, which is why they're the standard. You've never dealt with bent or broken pins on a DB connector? You've never had a DB connector that refused to disengage because the weight of the cable on the connector caused the little screws to freeze up? They're the "standard" for 1-1/2 reasons - they're ubiquiotous, thanks to the huge number used in computer gear, but above all they're REALLY CHEAP, especially compared to any high density multipin ever designed for audio, which they absolutely were not. And I can't, off the top of my head, think of any multipin used for audio I/O that's more difficult to solder to. In other words, something very like a DB connector, but proprietary.
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Post by svart on Sept 1, 2017 13:43:23 GMT -6
Why? DB25's work fine, and have for decades, which is why they're the standard. You've never dealt with bent or broken pins on a DB connector? You've never had a DB connector that refused to disengage because the weight of the cable on the connector caused the little screws to freeze up? They're the "standard" for 1-1/2 reasons - they're ubiquiotous, thanks to the huge number used in computer gear, but above all they're REALLY CHEAP, especially compared to any high density multipin ever designed for audio, which they absolutely were not. And I can't, off the top of my head, think of any multipin used for audio I/O that's more difficult to solder to. In other words, something very like a DB connector, but proprietary. No, I've never had issues with DB connectors save for a couple I messed up soldering or accidentally destroyed. Then again, when I've made or bought them I've used higher end connectors or bought higher quality cables. I've made roughly 40 or 50 db25's over the years for various uses in 3 different studio locations. Currently I have over 30 different db25's in my studio and don't have any issues with any of them. Now, I have had issues with ELCOs.. Goddamn things tarnish so quickly, even using gold contacts.. I was pulling mine apart multiple times a year to deoxit until I finally filled them with dielectric grease. No problems since. And ELCOs are way worse to solder and/or crimp and install into the housing.
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Post by noah shain on Sept 1, 2017 22:22:49 GMT -6
I know I'll be the odd man out here but I just got 64 channels of Avid 16x16 and I quite like them.
I'm not too knowledgeable about converters but...
These sound good to me.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Sept 2, 2017 12:48:45 GMT -6
I know I'll be the odd man out here but I just got 64 channels of Avid 16x16 and I quite like them. I'm not too knowledgeable about converters but... These sound good to me. That's all that matters, Noah IMO. If they suit your ear, converters are golden. Any of these new ones will make great music. My wife and I have been unloading boxes from the move from Kentucky. She showed me the old Echo Layla that I started out with in 1995 in digital. Man have we come a long way from that old 20 bit converter and SAW 32 lol.
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Post by ragan on Sept 2, 2017 12:59:19 GMT -6
I know I'll be the odd man out here but I just got 64 channels of Avid 16x16 and I quite like them. I'm not too knowledgeable about converters but... These sound good to me. That's all that matters, Noah IMO. If they suit your ear, converters are golden. Any of these new ones will make great music. My wife and I have been unloading boxes from the move from Kentucky. She showed me the old Echo Layla that I started out with in 1995 in digital. Man have we come a long way from that old 20 bit converter and SAW 32 lol. You guys moved? Where'd ya land, Herbie?
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