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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 13:46:46 GMT -6
Dum dum dum du du dum dum, dum dum dum dum dum dum dum da, dum.
Oh hi, I didn't see you there.
Ever feel the pressure to make the "perfect song"? Do you let sonic's get in the way of your creativity? Well ol' shadow has a solution, don't give a **** TM.
On a more serious note, I think this is quite common.. Know how many songs I've recorded (not others, me) over the past 15 years? Six and all of them have just approached their 13th year anniversary.
What the hell was I doing? I responded poorly to some criticism (on the site that shall not be named). Became obsessed with it sounding "the best", to the point I never get through snippets or half finished pieces of junk. The only reason I got into mixing and mastering was this obsession with it being "better"..
I listen to the early demo's of my favourite bands, whilst they have talent they are rough around the edges to say the least.
Nothing more than an observation, a blockade that needs to be overcome. But avoid the same mistakes as me, just do it and don't chase the golden rainbow. (or hire someone)..
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Post by EmRR on Jan 13, 2017 14:02:24 GMT -6
Yep. I know a ton of people who transitioned from artist to producer/recordist and never released another thing. One guy probably has a dozen albums in the can, hasn't released one since 1989. None of it is 'perfect'.
I try to tell people all along it's better to put this one out so you can move on and make the next one better, having learned along the way. Some get it, some don't.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 14:35:09 GMT -6
Yep. I know a ton of people who transitioned from artist to producer/recordist and never released another thing. One guy probably has a dozen albums in the can, hasn't released one since 1989. None of it is 'perfect'. I try to tell people all along it's better to put this one out so you can move on and make the next one better, having learned along the way. Some get it, some don't. Exactly, if you are a creative being it is infused into your very fibre.. All I've essentially done by chasing the rainbow is circle back to zero, don't get me wrong it was fun and I did learn a lot. Although it;s amazing how quickly years can pass, if you at least try then you'll have no regrets no matter if your venture takes off or not.. I remember reading Dave Pensado went down a similar route, he originally was a musician.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 14:55:21 GMT -6
No pressure. You only live once. Just do it. First CD was recorded into a tascam 7 track (8th track broken) all DI'd. Vox and guitar all recorded through a cheap Korg guitar fx processor with a s/h £25 AT dynamic mic. It was then "mastered" with T-Racks 24 on a random preset and burnt to CD with sony cd architect. Amazingly, got a fair bit of radio play at the time, sold a few CD's and still getting streams from all over the world ( all those $0.01 soon add up ) Can't stop writing songs, so thought it was about time I tried to learn what I'm doing . Now you have no excuse .
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Post by EmRR on Jan 13, 2017 17:35:30 GMT -6
I am part of 6 unreleased record projects at this point, in all cases band ending with record 95-100% done. One was even mastered and ready to go. Last one I got out was in 1992; worst of the lot! There's some angst for ya.
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Post by gouge on Jan 13, 2017 19:04:14 GMT -6
my music partner and I have this conversation all the time. we went on a recording binge and awoke 2 albums later with some of the most poorly recorded stuff you can find and thought it was time to start mixing. after rerecording 3 songs i pointed out the more recent stuff sounded better than the older stuff and we should just take it on the chin as a learning experience and move on.
so that's what we are doing. we have had to accept they were a point in time and focus on using it as a stepping stone to better productions.
i think the real issue is when things don't improve.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 20:15:03 GMT -6
No pressure. You only live once. Just do it. First CD was recorded into a tascam 7 track (8th track broken) all DI'd. Vox and guitar all recorded through a cheap Korg guitar fx processor with a s/h £25 AT dynamic mic. It was then "mastered" with T-Racks 24 on a random preset and burnt to CD with sony cd architect. Amazingly, got a fair bit of radio play at the time, sold a few CD's and still getting streams from all over the world ( all those $0.01 soon add up ) Can't stop writing songs, so thought it was about time I tried to learn what I'm doing . Now you have no excuse . I wish it was that simple for everyone, the pressure to do well has the opposite effect intended. Not only can it cause stress, it stops the process from being fun to the point you don't care what it sounds like in the end. The irony is if you don't give a crap from the outset, you generally do better for it. It's the whole "trying too hard" thing..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 8:14:46 GMT -6
How about putting a couple of songs up here?
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Post by swurveman on Jan 14, 2017 9:00:47 GMT -6
If you're a writer/player/producer/recording/mixing/mastering engineer you need a partner(s) imo. Helps you see the forest from the trees.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 16:07:47 GMT -6
swurveman I agree, I've asked Svart to give me a hand. @snowflake I defo will do when they're done ..
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Post by stratboy on Feb 9, 2017 5:13:42 GMT -6
No pressure. You only live once. Just do it. First CD was recorded into a tascam 7 track (8th track broken) all DI'd. Vox and guitar all recorded through a cheap Korg guitar fx processor with a s/h £25 AT dynamic mic. It was then "mastered" with T-Racks 24 on a random preset and burnt to CD with sony cd architect. Amazingly, got a fair bit of radio play at the time, sold a few CD's and still getting streams from all over the world ( all those $0.01 soon add up ) Can't stop writing songs, so thought it was about time I tried to learn what I'm doing . Now you have no excuse . I wish it was that simple for everyone, the pressure to do well has the opposite effect intended. Not only can it cause stress, it stops the process from being fun to the point you don't care what it sounds like in the end. The irony is if you don't give a crap from the outset, you generally do better for it. It's the whole "trying too hard" thing.. Same thing happened to me when I went to GIT. Being around a bunch of fusion chops meisters for a year got me so discouraged, I quit playing for six months. Then I put on Johnny Winter And live and Bob Seeger Live Bullet. Turned up to ten and got back in touch with why I started playing in the first place! 🙃 Rock on, Shadow!!!
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