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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 1, 2017 22:23:03 GMT -6
Weird. Mine does it too
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Post by ChaseUTB on Apr 1, 2017 23:35:35 GMT -6
forgotteng Awesome vid, I always like you vids! They are always informative and thorough and don't blow my ear drums out if I am watching it n the studio😬😂 How is the phantom power light on that is crazy, especially without it actually receiving power... Is it actually an led light that is illuminated? Wow just saw JK post that's weird his does the same... Wow you are a patient man 🤠 I can't believe it took two years for you to receive your preamp, that's a long wait. I hope the sound is what you desire and more and I hope you enjoy using it in your studio! Hope you received a nice discount on this item or your sa4000 😀. Looking forward to more of your vids... What's your YouTube channel so I can subscribe to you ?
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Post by Ward on Apr 2, 2017 5:12:49 GMT -6
Sounds like a capacitor is discharging and trickle feeding the LED indicator through the switch when in the 'engaged' position.
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Post by forgotteng on Apr 2, 2017 7:02:00 GMT -6
forgotteng Awesome vid, I always like you vids! They are always informative and thorough and don't blow my ear drums out if I am watching it n the studio😬😂 How is the phantom power light on that is crazy, especially without it actually receiving power... Is it actually an led light that is illuminated? Wow just saw JK post that's weird his does the same... Wow you are a patient man 🤠 I can't believe it took two years for you to receive your preamp, that's a long wait. I hope the sound is what you desire and more and I hope you enjoy using it in your studio! Hope you received a nice discount on this item or your sa4000 😀. Looking forward to more of your vids... What's your YouTube channel so I can subscribe to you ? Thanks man, I like to keep it simple. I actually really like the model of putting a deposit down and paying it off slowly. Then when it ships I can tell my wife Oh yea I ordered that 2 years ago. It keeps me out of trouble. I think the youtube channel is Forgotten Genre Productions.
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Post by Vincent R. on Apr 2, 2017 7:58:06 GMT -6
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Post by forgotteng on Apr 2, 2017 8:44:33 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 2, 2017 8:48:30 GMT -6
I have the Sowters
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 2, 2017 9:40:52 GMT -6
Hmm.. Stam likes the Sowters. I like big, crisp and clean. Listen to Lyle Lovette's "Road to Ensenada", and that's what I like in vocal tone. So, which would be the better choice for me? If forgotteng and John could post some files with male vocals, I'd appreciate it.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 2, 2017 11:21:11 GMT -6
I would think you'd like the Carnhills better then...
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 2, 2017 11:21:52 GMT -6
Or if big and crisp, maybe a VP28 with Litz...or a VP312.
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Post by indiehouse on Apr 2, 2017 11:57:41 GMT -6
I don't think Neves are known for their clean, right?
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 2, 2017 14:17:02 GMT -6
I had the Warm WA12, then the ToneBeast, then the Dizengoff D4. They all were good, but not quite what I was looking for. Since the ToneBeast is an API style pre, I figured maybe I should try me some Neve. I tried my friends Great River preamp one afternoon, and it bettered the D4.
I'd love to try a CAPI preamp one day. Randge recommended the RTZ 9762, but it's out of my price range right now.
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Post by Ward on Apr 2, 2017 14:19:51 GMT -6
I had the Warm WA12, then the ToneBeast, then the Dizengoff D4. They all were good, but not quite what I was looking for. Since the ToneBeast is an API style pre, I figured maybe I should try me some Neve. Yeah, the thing about the API architecture and a lot of clones is the aggressive nature of it. This works dynamite on toms, kick and guitar amps but not really what I'm looking for on acoustic guitars or vocals. Now, I can understand some guys liking this... but, well, I've heard (and loved) your work too, and I can see you wanting more of the Neve 'command' type of sound. Does that makes sense to you, Martin John Butler? It's like command meaning 'large and in charge'.
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Post by ragan on Apr 2, 2017 15:10:01 GMT -6
I had the Warm WA12, then the ToneBeast, then the Dizengoff D4. They all were good, but not quite what I was looking for. Since the ToneBeast is an API style pre, I figured maybe I should try me some Neve. Yeah, the thing about the API architecture and a lot of clones is the aggressive nature of it. This works dynamite on toms, kick and guitar amps but not really what I'm looking for on acoustic guitars or vocals. Now, I can understand some guys liking this... but, well, I've heard (and loved) your work too, and I can see you wanting more of the Neve 'command' type of sound. Does that makes sense to you, Martin John Butler? It's like command meaning 'large and in charge'. That's exactly what I think of, particularly on vocals, when I think Neve, large and in charge. I only have extensive experience with the Heritage and the GR. Used vintage 1073s a time or two but it was before I had any idea what was going on or what listen for really.
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Apr 2, 2017 17:34:24 GMT -6
Always heard great reviews about Ed andersons transformers... And CAPI and hairball employ them in their respective circuits... jsteiger can probably tell you way more I have a pair of gap 73s that were completely rebuilt by Jim Jacobsen and Langston. They use the ed andersons and I like them better then every other neve I've had beside them. I haven't heard the sowters though. Cool, Do you know what he used as the input tx?
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Post by deehope on Apr 2, 2017 17:51:25 GMT -6
I have a pair of gap 73s that were completely rebuilt by Jim Jacobsen and Langston. They use the ed andersons and I like them better then every other neve I've had beside them. I haven't heard the sowters though. Cool, Do you know what he used as the input tx? ya I was the one that ordered them. Its the EA-10468
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 2, 2017 19:01:13 GMT -6
Ward said, "'large and in charge'". Exactly, man, that's what I'm thinking. it never gets big enough for me. I want a Lyle Lovett clean huge vocal, Pete Townshend power, and Mark Knopfler's sense of powerful restraint and intimacy. Unfortunately, that usually comes with a vintage U67, and a world class studio with great engineers and producers. I try to get me and my living room to compete ;-)
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Post by pope on Apr 3, 2017 15:15:24 GMT -6
So, what's the case with the phantom power led? Got curious Stam?
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Post by Ward on Apr 3, 2017 20:05:17 GMT -6
So, what's the case with the phantom power led? Got curious Some bozo offered this... Sounds like a capacitor is discharging and trickle feeding the LED indicator through the switch when in the 'engaged' position.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 4, 2017 8:13:39 GMT -6
Yeah, but that would go away after a few seconds though...
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Post by ericn on Apr 4, 2017 8:20:41 GMT -6
Yeah, but that would go away after a few seconds though... Depends on the LED and the capacitor.
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Post by Ward on Apr 4, 2017 9:06:23 GMT -6
Yeah, but that would go away after a few seconds though... Depends on the LED and the capacitor. Precisely. A capacitor slowly discharges energy after it is disconnected from a power source. A large, er, capacity capacitor could store quite a few milliamperes and an typical LED used in a machine like this uses 0.0085 milliamperes of current per hour. Not a lot of joules. So it can take a long time to discharge, some times. Here's an interesting primmer on how capacitors store and discharge their family joules. www.johnhearfield.com/Physics/Capacitor_energy.htm Another Discharge formula... I_{{\mathrm {Leak}}}=0{,}01\,{\mathrm {{A} \over {V\cdot F}}}\cdot U_{{\mathrm R}}\cdot C_{{\mathrm R}}+3\,{\mathrm {\mu A}} But it would be nice to see something from Jim or Bob, or another one of our experts in the field of engineering.
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Post by ericn on Apr 4, 2017 10:37:46 GMT -6
Depends on the LED and the capacitor. Precisely. A capacitor slowly discharges energy after it is disconnected from a power source. A large, er, capacity capacitor could store quite a few milliamperes and an typical LED used in a machine like this uses 0.0085 milliamperes of current per hour. Not a lot of joules. So it can take a long time to discharge, some times. Here's an interesting primmer on how capacitors store and discharge their family joules. www.johnhearfield.com/Physics/Capacitor_energy.htm Another Discharge formula... I_{{\mathrm {Leak}}}=0{,}01\,{\mathrm {{A} \over {V\cdot F}}}\cdot U_{{\mathrm R}}\cdot C_{{\mathrm R}}+3\,{\mathrm {\mu A}} But it would be nice to see something from Jim or Bob, or another one of our experts in the field of engineering. Or Stam?
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Post by Ward on Apr 4, 2017 11:09:49 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 4, 2017 15:59:40 GMT -6
OK...this thing is FANTASTIC on direct bass.
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