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Post by popmann on Nov 29, 2013 22:30:08 GMT -6
I love a SINGLE V Series piece---the 1084 EQ. I don't always level the analog on...but...the 1073 is useless to me--NEVER understood why everyone models that one, save name recognition. I don't touch the other EQs or buss comp. FWIW. I was underwhelmed at first, honestly--the APIs were so much snappier...but, long term, it's proved quite the go to.
I don't think tape simulators are necessary. They're cool. I have MPX and VTM (and Saturn if you count that)...on top of Steinberg's old Magneto, which is really just a nice dirty rock and roll limiter more than tape emulation, but...I bought VTM specifically for a project I had on the desk that had tons of retro fizzy distorted rock guitar--Marshall on 10 w/Les Paul stuff. I paid for itself with that project, but my rec was simply based on things on deep sale. I can mix most things all day with a tape emu. But, I wouldn't want to be without VCC or the IK Pultec, which oversamples AND will work M/S.
But, there's also a difference in what I would want for my own material I track and a toolset for all I get. I own a much bigger toolset than that...but, when it comes to my own stuff, I rarely feel much need to reach outside that little list and add the Waves Linear Phase LOW BAND EQ for all HPF'ing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2013 8:19:23 GMT -6
I picked up Metric Halo's ChannelStrip3 from AudioDeluxe for $46USD last night. who knows what else they're selling this weekend.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 30, 2013 9:36:33 GMT -6
I'm already regretting buying the Claiphonic hastily. I haven't used it yet, but realize I should really just have gotten away from EQ's. I have UAD's Massive Passive, and their Pultec, all the Waves SSL EQ's, in fact, Apple's EQ actually works well, too.
I enjoyed the Clariphonic video so much, and it seemed like a magic pill, take two knobs, twiddle, and mixes come to life. I know how that sounds, but it seemed like a good idea. What I should have done is just get the Elysia MuseEQ plug and be done with them all, but I didn't know about it until today.. aarrgghh..
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Post by unit7 on Nov 30, 2013 9:44:58 GMT -6
I'm already regretting buying the Claiphonic hastily. I haven't used it yet, but realize I should really just have gotten away from EQ's. I have UAD's Massive Passive, and their Pultec, all the Waves SSL EQ's, in fact, Apple's EQ actually works well, too. I enjoyed the Clariphonic video so much, and it seemed like a magic pill, take two knobs, twiddle, and mixes come to life. I know how that sounds, but it seemed like a good idea. What I should have done is just get the Elysia MuseEQ plug and be done with them all, but I didn't know about it until today.. aarrgghh.. Feel your pain. But is there such thing as 'Get the XXXX gear and be done with them all'?..  |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 30, 2013 10:13:22 GMT -6
It does seem like the MuseEQ can do everything all the others can.
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Post by wreck on Dec 2, 2013 10:11:41 GMT -6
I bit on VBC, wish I would have seen the Clariphonic bundle with it, but I don't generally feel like clarity is an issue in my mixes. Would have been fun to try though. The VBC does work great. As ususal, nothing magic happens, but I dialed in a mix last night in no time with it on. I didn't turn it off to A/B, but the highs were very smooth and I know they weren't smooth before that was on the mix.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 2, 2013 10:17:39 GMT -6
Really difficult for me to not grab the Clariphonic and and VBC, but with no AAX64 timeline, I gotta pass. Lexicon has the LXP bundle on sale at Sweetwater for $99 too. Another good deal, but not AAX64.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 2, 2013 11:03:34 GMT -6
Got VBC, like it, tricky when using all 3 compressors though. Got Clariphonic. It's subtle, but helps liven up the mix. I'm not sure if I should be dialing in that sound with an actual EQ, like the Elysia MuEQ, or if using the Clariphonic is the same basic idea, except easier to do.
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Post by popmann on Dec 2, 2013 11:09:43 GMT -6
Turned out I must've chucked the loyalty coupon...so, no VBC for me. That's fine, since I honestly am not a huge buss compressor guy...I was hoping that the Red or VariMu were some revelation on individual instruments.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 2, 2013 11:20:25 GMT -6
Got VBC, like it, tricky when using all 3 compressors though. Got Clariphonic. It's subtle, but helps liven up the mix. I'm not sure if I should be dialing in that sound with an actual EQ, like the Elysia MuEQ, or if using the Clariphonic is the same basic idea, except easier to do. I grabbed the MuseQ. The difference with the Clariphonic, I think, is that it's parallel eq. You could buss your track to an aux, or even duplicate the track and put the MuseQ on just one of the two and blend them to get a similar effect, I expect. |
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Post by unit7 on Dec 2, 2013 11:48:50 GMT -6
Really difficult for me to not grab the Clariphonic and and VBC, but with no AAX64 timeline, I gotta pass. Lexicon has the LXP bundle on sale at Sweetwater for $99 too. Another good deal, but not AAX64. Thanks for the heads up on the Sweetwater special on the Lexicon bundles! |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 2, 2013 12:05:39 GMT -6
JRR shop has 500 series Elysia Xfilter and Xpressor for $807 each or the Great River Pre/Comp pair for $1388. Pretty good deals if you're in the market for these pieces.
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Post by popmann on Dec 2, 2013 15:33:01 GMT -6
Ooh...the whole PCM bundle is $499. So tempting.
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Post by lolo on Dec 2, 2013 17:59:02 GMT -6
Played with the Clariphonic last night. Pretty amazing stuff. This EQ sounds sweet
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Post by henge on Dec 2, 2013 19:36:18 GMT -6
Got VBC, like it, tricky when using all 3 compressors though. Got Clariphonic. It's subtle, but helps liven up the mix. I'm not sure if I should be dialing in that sound with an actual EQ, like the Elysia MuEQ, or if using the Clariphonic is the same basic idea, except easier to do. Been using VBC for months now and have only used all 3 comps in the rack twice, and then only in parallel with about 30% comp 70% dry. The individual comps are where the VBC shine imo. I love the Red on the master barely doing anything as well as on the drum buss. The Grey is great for taming quick peaks and sounds nice on the guitar buss. Mu is a great tone shaper if you have a boomy or tubby sound and the m/s capabilities are useful.Try them individually. Be careful with the Clairphonic, it's like high end crack! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 20:03:06 GMT -6
Martin John Butler you're not liking the Clariphonic? How does it compare to the others you've been using?
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 2, 2013 20:03:53 GMT -6
Yeah - I think EQ is over rated...One good one like Pro Q is good enough...
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 2, 2013 20:18:42 GMT -6
Thanks Henge, I'll try using the VBC more sparingly in the future, those are really helpful tips.
Jordanvoth, Henge is right, you gotta take it easy with the Clariphonic, it sounds so good. it's a little like the way more volume tends to make you think it's better when it isn't. I've only tested it in one mix, and it brings a touch of class to in the box mixes that's been missing.
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Post by bentley on Dec 2, 2013 20:23:33 GMT -6
Don't think it's been mentioned in this thread but Exponential Audio reverbs are on sale until Dec. 21. Really impressed with the way these sound and definitely worth checking out.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 2, 2013 20:34:20 GMT -6
Yeah - I think EQ is over rated...One good one like Pro Q is good enough... I like a variety of eq options personally. I like set curves. I like how some can add bite and others are silky. Sometimes pro-Q is a better option for finding what I looking for. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 3, 2013 13:14:57 GMT -6
Just tried the Clariphonic on my Superior Drummer tracks, got just the touch of punch I needed, and damned if it didn't "real" them up a bit, very cool. Still haven't received my Elysium musEQ license yet, but I suspect it will become the only EQ that I'll go to for most things, saving the Clariphonic for a tweak on the 2 bus, and an occasional track.
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Post by henge on Dec 3, 2013 13:51:54 GMT -6
Yeah - I think EQ is over rated...One good one like Pro Q is good enough... I like a variety of eq options personally. I like set curves. I like how some can add bite and others are silky. Sometimes pro-Q is a better option for finding what I looking for. I'm switching over to this point of view. I used to just use MDynamicEQ which is a flexible digi eq with compression on each band and then run that through some saturation. Sounded great, still sounds great. also used the eq on Decapitator and Radiator to great effect. But since all these sales were going on I thought I'd demo "colourful" eq's. The one I bought wasn't even a black friday deal and it was only $50. Does a nice pultec trick on the low end ( which I didn't have ), and very nice curves for the mids. Don't know what those curves look like but they sound totally different from the eq I was using. High shelf is sweet and does some neat stuff. Point is it has way different curves that are very nice for alot of things. So now I'm up to two eq's and I'm not feeling the need for anything else in a digital eq. This is the eq. sonimus.com/products/soneqpro/ |
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Post by popmann on Dec 3, 2013 14:53:12 GMT -6
I don't know what he meant by "eq is overrated".
What is it that's NOT overrated? It's an integral part to audio production. If he just meant having different options...I disagree, but whatever floats your boat. I think FF was pretty poor trying to do what I need-as was Waves' HEQ that has the whole "different model per band" that sounded great on paper. I love the IDEA of having a single flexible EQ...it just doesn't work, IME, unless you're willing to accept lesser sound quality for the no brainer of just opening the same plug. I use like 3 for 90% of my mixing...and own I don't know how many others and the analog Specks that make up the other 10%.
But, I AM a fan of getting your tools and getting to work...so, if FF does it for you, you go.
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