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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 9, 2016 16:44:12 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 9, 2016 17:18:57 GMT -6
GREAT NEWS. Keep those prices falling baby! Edit, wait. It's still just a DI kit. I thought this was already built for 6 bones. Isn't this actually a price increase? |
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Post by wiz on Aug 9, 2016 17:20:11 GMT -6
I am really interested in one of those kits
cheers
Wiz
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 9, 2016 17:26:01 GMT -6
Yeah DIY
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Post by mdmitch2 on Aug 9, 2016 18:46:49 GMT -6
Same price as before, but way easier to build.... Should save a ton of time. Also built in stereo link I think.
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Post by rocinante on Aug 9, 2016 20:43:00 GMT -6
Yeah they removed most of the wiring that people just kept getting stuck on. The layout looks fantastic actually.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Aug 9, 2016 21:43:06 GMT -6
I have one of the original blackface kits from when you had to source your own parts. They included a PCB, switches, enclosure and power supply tranny but the rest was up to you.
I still use it all the time and it stands up great against the newer UA classics line. Actually the components and quality to me are better, especially the input pad.
If the new kit quality is anything like the ease of build of their Lola preamps Id be all in. Their quality is right up there with Jeff's Capi kits I've had the pleasure
Of assembling and using.
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Post by svart on Aug 10, 2016 8:35:25 GMT -6
Hmm. I never thought their original boxes were hard to build. By my 3rd one I could unbox the parts and finish in an hour or so..
I think the D revision is pretty much the pinnacle of the 1176.
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Post by wiz on Aug 10, 2016 15:03:53 GMT -6
Hmm. I never thought their original boxes were hard to build. By my 3rd one I could unbox the parts and finish in an hour or so.. I think the D revision is pretty much the pinnacle of the 1176. I think the wiring and calibration put people off... ? So, did you get one of the new ones? Anyone who owns or has used a WA76 by warm, used or own the hairball... I was thinking about building a Rev A type one. cheers Wiz |
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Post by ragan on Aug 10, 2016 15:37:34 GMT -6
Hmm. I never thought their original boxes were hard to build. By my 3rd one I could unbox the parts and finish in an hour or so.. I think the D revision is pretty much the pinnacle of the 1176. I think the wiring and calibration put people off... ? So, did you get one of the new ones? Anyone who owns or has used a WA76 by warm, used or own the hairball... I was thinking about building a Rev A type one. cheers Wiz I've got the WA76 and the Hairball Rev A. Love them both. Completely different beasts. The WA76 is the classic 1176 sound. Mid forward, assertive, smacky. The Rev A is squishier, pillowy, goo-y-er. More harmonics/distortion. More noise too but not problematic. Hope hats helpful. For reference, the other 1176's I've used are the Urei Rev F, the Mohog and an 1178. I haven't used them all but I'm pretty familiar with the family of sound. |
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Post by wiz on Aug 10, 2016 16:36:54 GMT -6
I think the wiring and calibration put people off... ? So, did you get one of the new ones? Anyone who owns or has used a WA76 by warm, used or own the hairball... I was thinking about building a Rev A type one. cheers Wiz I've got the WA76 and the Hairball Rev A. Love them both. Completely different beasts. The WA76 is the classic 1176 sound. Mid forward, assertive, smacky. The Rev A is squishier, pillowy, goo-y-er. More harmonics/distortion. More noise too but not problematic. Hope hats helpful. For reference, the other 1176's I've used are the Urei Rev F, the Mohog and an 1178. I haven't used them all but I'm pretty familiar with the family of sound. oh you had me at gooy-er 8) thats what I remember about the one Rev A I used thanks Wiz |
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Post by ragan on Aug 10, 2016 16:56:15 GMT -6
I've got the WA76 and the Hairball Rev A. Love them both. Completely different beasts. The WA76 is the classic 1176 sound. Mid forward, assertive, smacky. The Rev A is squishier, pillowy, goo-y-er. More harmonics/distortion. More noise too but not problematic. Hope hats helpful. For reference, the other 1176's I've used are the Urei Rev F, the Mohog and an 1178. I haven't used them all but I'm pretty familiar with the family of sound. oh you had me at gooy-er 8) thats what I remember about the one Rev A I used thanks Wiz It's really nice on vocals. Nothing else quite sounds like it (Rev A 1176 in general) in my experience. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Aug 11, 2016 17:36:10 GMT -6
I tried a Purple audio mc77 against a WA76 once, and while the WA was nice, it didn't smack even close to as much as the purple. The WA seemed softer and slower.
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Post by ragan on Aug 11, 2016 18:07:21 GMT -6
I tried a Purple audio mc77 against a WA76 once, and while the WA was nice, it didn't smack even close to as much as the purple. The WA seemed softer and slower. Is the Purple a Rev F clone? I can't remember but I've found Rev D's (WA76) a little cleaner and smoother than the Rev F's which feel a little more aggressive. Could just be the particular units I've had here though. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Sept 6, 2016 12:00:03 GMT -6
I'm actually not sure what the Purple is, to be quite honest. Could be that you are right.
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 3, 2017 15:05:05 GMT -6
Just finished building my HB rev D last week. It's glorious. One of the new kits. They say the wiring harness took a while before. It took my like 2 minutes here. Super easy.
Loving the sounds.
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Post by ericn on Jan 3, 2017 16:16:54 GMT -6
I tried a Purple audio mc77 against a WA76 once, and while the WA was nice, it didn't smack even close to as much as the purple. The WA seemed softer and slower. Is the Purple a Rev F clone? I can't remember but I've found Rev D's (WA76) a little cleaner and smoother than the Rev F's which feel a little more aggressive. Could just be the particular units I've had here though. MC 77 is it's own beast, when Andrew couldn't get the attenuator in the MC 76 he designed a 76 the way he wanted it to be. |
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Post by gouge on Jan 3, 2017 16:23:47 GMT -6
The purple action smacks so hard it leaves you, well purple.
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 3, 2017 16:28:09 GMT -6
The purple action smacks so hard it leaves you, well purple. Yes, it does. It actually reminds me a little of the edge you can get from a dBx in a way... |
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Post by EmRR on Jan 3, 2017 17:11:51 GMT -6
The purple action smacks so hard it leaves you, well purple. Yes, it does. It actually reminds me a little of the edge you can get from a dBx in a way... That makes me guess you are thinking of one of the dbx versions which is hard knee with the non-linear timing circuit, rather than the more common soft knee RMS type. Jim Williams has pointed out which are which before, and they're pretty different sounding from each other. Offhand I can't remember which is which. An RMS overeasy dbx is almost 20mS slower than the slowest sub-1mS an 1176 does. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Jan 3, 2017 17:42:55 GMT -6
Yes, it does. It actually reminds me a little of the edge you can get from a dBx in a way... That makes me guess you are thinking of one of the dbx versions which is hard knee with the non-linear timing circuit, rather than the more common soft knee RMS type. Jim Williams has pointed out which are which before, and they're pretty different sounding from each other. Offhand I can't remember which is which. An RMS overeasy dbx is almost 20mS slower than the slowest sub-1mS an 1176 does. You are right - however the ones I have are dBx 560s which have both the hard knee and overeasy mode. It's definitely the hard knee style that I am thinking of. |
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Post by EmRR on Jan 3, 2017 17:53:27 GMT -6
The one with the non-linear circuit grabs transients more like a peak limiter and releases more quickly too. I think it's one of the 160 non-VU variations.
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Post by drew571 on Jan 4, 2017 0:19:50 GMT -6
anyone have any experience with the hairball 500 series? Are they as easy to build? Do they sound exactly the same as the rack version?
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Post by mdmitch2 on Jan 4, 2017 0:36:18 GMT -6
anyone have any experience with the hairball 500 series? Are they as easy to build? Do they sound exactly the same as the rack version? I built a 500 rev A and a rack rev D. The 500 series was a pretty straightforward build, but still took some time and care due to the large number of components. There's also some calibration involved, as with any compressor. But that's not too difficult if you follow the directions closely. They both sounded great, and exactly like you would expect for an 1176. I ended up selling the 500 series version bc the knobs were a little too close together for my liking.... but the same goes for a lot of 500 series gear... not a big deal really. Also, as many have noted, the rev A is noisier than the D. |
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Post by ragan on Jan 4, 2017 1:33:03 GMT -6
anyone have any experience with the hairball 500 series? Are they as easy to build? Do they sound exactly the same as the rack version? FWIW, I built the Rev A 500 series as my first ever DIY project. Took me a long time but I had a pretty steep learning curve due to inexperience. I love it though. Great comp. |
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