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Post by NoFilterChuck on Aug 9, 2016 8:40:34 GMT -6
nah. it's too easy to upload to youtube and hope your video gets 100K+ views so you get all of that ad revenue each month.
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Post by mrholmes on Aug 9, 2016 9:08:53 GMT -6
The double edged sword: I found this site with google.. Indeed the internet can tell very different stories. There is a german producer called The Fat Rat who was in doubt to sign with a label because of a 25% split off all streaming fees. If you are not signed streaming fees are double as high as with record deal. He self released 5 songs spread out all over the internet. And aloud to use his fans one song for what ever they need it. That ended up that this song was used in a computer game. 10 Million plays on YT. Today he gets ø 9000 $ / month form streaming, plus the royalties at the end of the year. I spoke to him, and he said it was hard work to do all the online marketing. I think if you get offered one of those bad contracts the internet is a better chance to release - if you are totally unknown. If you already released, or you had a few world hits. In this case you make a very bad experience. To me the question is not to stop them doing it. The question how can we make them pay for it. That is where politics come into the game. The music businnes gives a lot people food. The best argument is culture. Music is culture it is a part of every country. |
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Post by drbill on Aug 9, 2016 9:44:04 GMT -6
We DO have the power to stop this. We quit producing. Unfortunately that puts us out of business, and there are more and more people who want in at any price, so it's a losing game. But if we could somehow convince ALL artists, musicians, producers, etc. to stop performing, writing, producing for two years, we'd have our consensus and be back in the game. But that will never happen.
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Post by courrielche on Aug 11, 2016 11:13:55 GMT -6
Great read (though long). I have read a number of articles on the youtube topic recently and this one adds the stream recording aspect. All in all, I have no doubt in my mind that we (musicians and songwriters) are being taken advantage of by professionals. To some extent the music industry has always been like that, not that that is any excuse. How do we change it? I honestly don't see a way to invert the power balance. As it stands the musician/songwriter has no power. Perhaps if there were some sort of platform for self-publishing (CD baby or the like) that people would actually stay with and only distribute their material through, instead of everybody running into the arms of big labels and 360 contracts. Eventually Joe Public would come looking for the music. Maybe. The problem is, the second you put out your music, on any digital platform, a YouTube user can upload it to YouTube. The stream ripping begins, and the creator is stuck with the never-ending task of taking it down from YouTube. |
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Post by courrielche on Aug 11, 2016 11:16:31 GMT -6
It's kind of ironic that you're posting the full content of the article (essentially stream ripping) so we don't have to read it on another site that depends on the ad revenue from the ads showing alongside the article, and running it alongside the banner ads you've got running here which help support this site.. It's also ironic that I read this post via Tapatalk which blocks all of your banner ads and shows their own ads (unless you pay for VIP) Yes. The irony is a little thick. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 11, 2016 12:33:43 GMT -6
It's kind of ironic that you're posting the full content of the article (essentially stream ripping) so we don't have to read it on another site that depends on the ad revenue from the ads showing alongside the article, and running it alongside the banner ads you've got running here which help support this site.. It's also ironic that I read this post via Tapatalk which blocks all of your banner ads and shows their own ads (unless you pay for VIP) I think it's ironic that you think you're smarter than the rest of us. Your constant contrarian views get really tiring. But maybe it's a youth thing. The article was attributed with the link in the first thread. Last time I checked, that wasn't illegal. |
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