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Post by cowboycoalminer on Mar 31, 2016 13:04:12 GMT -6
The Beatles did it. That's why we worship them. They were a bunch of garage band dudes. Technically, they were horrible. Terrible musicians. They knew G, C and D. But they changed the WORLD with simple songs that were rememberable and ORIGINAL.
Were has that mentality gone?? MUST we copycat everything we hear??
Lets use this thread to be ourselves. No judgement. Just.....put it out there. Do something different. Do something that speaks to YOU.
Alright, post it up.
We are songwriters here after all..,
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 12, 2016 20:37:07 GMT -6
Enjoy 8)
https%3A//soundcloud.com/tonycamp/bottle-kneck-1998-or-so
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Apr 13, 2016 9:07:37 GMT -6
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 13, 2016 9:47:45 GMT -6
love the soundcloud pic, no kitty/bad kitty! got a hook in your gut through your shirt? cool jam btw 8)
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Apr 13, 2016 10:56:28 GMT -6
Technically horrible? The early recordings I've heard were surprisingly good especially compared to what we hear now from unknown bands.
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Apr 13, 2016 12:05:01 GMT -6
Not to mention "Yesterdays" is in F...
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 13, 2016 12:08:44 GMT -6
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 13, 2016 13:16:12 GMT -6
Beatles men were always incredibly talented imv, I'm sure Mr Martin really helped hone their talent though...
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 13, 2016 16:56:30 GMT -6
https%3A//soundcloud.com/martin-john-butler/fireflies-master Gotta disagree with you on one point cowboy, by the time we heard The Beatles, they were hard core pros, broken in by hundreds and hundreds of hours gigging in Germany and Liverpool. George Harrison was a quick study, and played chords arrangements that were quite complicated in the style of Chet Atkins. They just put out some of their simplest, most catchy songs first. The harmonies weren't easy to do either, that's for sure. But I do agree with you in general, originality has fallen away, but I believe it's still with us, just harder to find because commercial enterprises, like record companies don't like taking chances anymore.
I was going to post a track I've just finished that will become a video where proceeds will go to veterans, but decided that this track better fits the topic. This is me, as original as I get, with the possible exception of a track called "The Best That You Can Do" which cowboy covered a while back. I don't have a version of that with my vocal yet, so here goes..
Cowboy's on pedal steel, electric guitar, fiddle and bass ! Damn, he's a one man band, so I guess that makes us a two man band, wife Janet on backup vocal. I may yet retrack the drums with uhh.. real drums.. we'll see.
Almost forgot to say that everyone's tracks here are highly original, well done!
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 13, 2016 17:15:07 GMT -6
https%3A//soundcloud.com/martin-john-butler/long-road-back-final-mix-1 Ok, forgive me for posting twice, but I'm curious if you guys think this sounds original or too derivative. This will be the music for a video I'll be making, where the proceeds will go to the Brothers In Arms motorcycle club. It's for veterans only, and they support charities that do things like find homes for impoverished, homeless veterans. I wrote this to honor my brother in law and nephew, who is assigned by the US Army to travel the world to try to bring closure to families whose loved ones are MIA.
It isn't mastered yet, so turn it up. There are some heavy cats on this. Sammy Merendino on drums, (Foreigner, Billy Joel, Hall & Oates, Cyndi Lauper, and others) Jon Bendis on electric guitar, (Roseanne Cash, Don Henley, Neil Young), our very own Henge, Anton Evans on bass, and Mark Rabuck, M57 on organ.
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Post by levon on Apr 15, 2016 6:27:53 GMT -6
Enjoy 8) https%3A//soundcloud.com/tonycamp/bottle-kneck-1998-or-soWow, that's pretty far out, man.
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Post by Jason on Apr 26, 2016 20:36:08 GMT -6
bumping this thread; a great idea for this crowd!
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Post by swurveman on Apr 27, 2016 7:08:12 GMT -6
https%3A//soundcloud.com/martin-john-butler/long-road-back-final-mix-1Ok, forgive me for posting twice, but I'm curious if you guys think this sounds original or too derivative. This will be the music for a video I'll be making, where the proceeds will go to the Brothers In Arms motorcycle club. It's for veterans only, and they support charities that do things like find homes for impoverished, homeless veterans. I wrote this to honor my brother in law and nephew, who is assigned by the US Army to travel the world to try to bring closure to families whose loved ones are MIA. It isn't mastered yet, so turn it up. There are some heavy cats on this. Sammy Merendino on drums, (Foreigner, Billy Joel, Hall & Oates, Cyndi Lauper, and others) Jon Bendis on electric guitar, (Roseanne Cash, Don Henley, Neil Young), our very own Henge, Anton Evans on bass, and Mark Rabuck, M57 on organ. Martin, this sounds great and feels original and sounds like a band. Well done. What I would suggest (with my producer hat on) is to add some grit to your voice. This song needs gravitas from the vocal imo to make it really get into people's emotions. Just my $02. I think people hesitate to give opinions on people's songs here. I wish more people would post songs and more people would comment. We learn best by feedback and experimenting/failing/trying/succeeding imo.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 27, 2016 8:00:32 GMT -6
Big thanks my man!
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Post by Jason on Apr 27, 2016 20:47:27 GMT -6
Martin,
I'm a nobody, just a closet songwriter. But, the song itself is brilliant. I love your delivery and the character of your voice. I can feel your words, and I find the story compelling. Hardly "derivative," I can't imagine a more fitting tribute for the purpose and audience you have in mind.
Great work!
Jason
P.S. Good luck buying a cup of coffee with my two cents. ;-)
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 27, 2016 21:02:11 GMT -6
Thanks for listening so carefully and posting your comments C.I., it truly is appreciated.
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Post by M57 on Apr 28, 2016 15:46:00 GMT -6
Enjoy 8) https%3A//soundcloud.com/tonycamp/bottle-kneck-1998-or-soThis is SOO cool. A delicately pieced but stunning tapestry of a genres. For me at least, highlighted by a really tasty use of negative space. Tony, what was your role on this?
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Post by M57 on Apr 28, 2016 15:54:14 GMT -6
https%3A//soundcloud.com/martin-john-butler/long-road-back-final-mix-1Ok, forgive me for posting twice, but I'm curious if you guys think this sounds original or too derivative. This will be the music for a video I'll be making, where the proceeds will go to the Brothers In Arms motorcycle club. It's for veterans only, and they support charities that do things like find homes for impoverished, homeless veterans. I wrote this to honor my brother in law and nephew, who is assigned by the US Army to travel the world to try to bring closure to families whose loved ones are MIA. It isn't mastered yet, so turn it up. There are some heavy cats on this. Sammy Merendino on drums, (Foreigner, Billy Joel, Hall & Oates, Cyndi Lauper, and others) Jon Bendis on electric guitar, (Roseanne Cash, Don Henley, Neil Young), our very own Henge, Anton Evans on bass, and Mark Rabuck, M57 on organ. Martin, I don't think you've posted this before, ..at least I don't remember hearing the final mix. Beautiful and Poignant. It was a pleasure and honor for me to be allowed participate on this project. I'm very much looking forward to seeing the video.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 28, 2016 17:58:42 GMT -6
Yep, this is the posting of the final mix M57. The level is low, as it still needs to be mastered. This was my most carefully gain staged recording to date, and I think the results show it. You made a huge difference in the vibe, and I only hope I can live up to the quality of the song with the video. I've contacted one up and coming filmmaker, and an old friend who's directed videos for almost every A list star you can name, but both have other commitments, so I'm still working on a workaround..
It's great to hear a real drummer again isn't it!
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 28, 2016 18:37:30 GMT -6
Enjoy 8) https%3A//soundcloud.com/tonycamp/bottle-kneck-1998-or-soThis is SOO cool. A delicately pieced but stunning tapestry of a genres. For me at least, highlighted by a really tasty use of negative space. Tony, what was your role on this? cool! the whole van halen/beebop/comedy/poetry slam mashup thing is pretty sweet, I remember a straw in a styrofoam cup lid, a squeaky office chair, my land line telephone, and laughing a whole lot! My friend who is a beast, wrote/played guitar and did the "word", it was about his propensity toward the drink, I cant remember who played bass and programmed the grey alesis drum machine(forgot name?), he and I grew up together and played together a ton, mostly in a drummer/guitarist capacity, we sound similar when we play bass interestingly enough, same sense of time/feel/swingy style, I think it may have been him though? it doesn't come back to me easily which points to him. I'm sure it was recorded with a 57 on everything through a digi 001 with it's built in pre's.., I think? was loooooong ago! found it the other day and thought it was about as cool as shit! saw this thread and posted it, i've probably got 100 things like this buried in boxes...
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Apr 28, 2016 21:18:37 GMT -6
It's only my opinion, but I swear I've never considered the Beatles the "Gods" that many others do. They performed simple songs. Nothing wrong with that. So yeah, in my opinion, a garage band with a keen sense being word smiths. I'm entitled to that one.
The artistry that I find in their music was in the writing. And that artistry was hard if not impossible to imitate. Stellar writers.
I've actually tried to hear what everyone else hears in their music but I can't. Sorry.
Great song, Tony. That is original and I dig it.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Apr 29, 2016 12:05:07 GMT -6
Very beautiful. Well done!
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 29, 2016 19:16:55 GMT -6
The Beatles did it. That's why we worship them. They were a bunch of garage band dudes. Technically, they were horrible. Terrible musicians. They knew G, C and D. But they changed the WORLD with simple songs that were rememberable and ORIGINAL. Were has that mentality gone?? MUST we copycat everything we hear?? Lets use this thread to be ourselves. No judgement. Just.....put it out there. Do something different. Do something that speaks to YOU. Alright, post it up. We are songwriters here after all.., Not to get technical, but I would kinda disagree about them not being good musicians. George was a badass, John and Paul musical genuises and Ringo was vastly underrated.
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 30, 2016 7:06:09 GMT -6
I really liked this, the instrumentation , phrasing and development. I found the dissonant parts actually focussed your attention and drew you into the orchestration so they worked: like special spices ! Thx for posting ; very accomplished !
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Post by 79sg on Apr 30, 2016 8:38:04 GMT -6
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