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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 23, 2016 14:55:41 GMT -6
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Post by channelcat on Feb 23, 2016 18:21:57 GMT -6
Happy to see this finally hit the market, but I'm still thinking the Speck LiLo is where it's at! Once you add up all the components (and antiquated cabling), it's more than a LiLo 24 (even at the new pricing).
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Post by keymod on Feb 24, 2016 4:19:40 GMT -6
Really nice concept, very expensive.
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Post by jayfitz on Feb 24, 2016 11:22:48 GMT -6
Happy to see this finally hit the market, but I'm still thinking the Speck LiLo is where it's at! Once you add up all the components (and antiquated cabling), it's more than a LiLo 24 (even at the new pricing). I see the Lilo 16 out there at $10,600....maybe you mean the Speck X.Sum? This set up is aimed at the guys who have a rack, or two, of 500 modules in need of integration. Sure, you can start from scratch but that will add up quickly if you start with zero 500-series gear. The same way the LiLo integrates with racks of pre's and outboard, this is the same idea. Not sure anyone would purchase a Lilo if they had zero outboard, nothing to integrate...same concept here. The MFtwenty5 Mixer ($2900), Meters ($750), Fader Pack, 10 Mono/1 stereo ($1350) and the Sidecar Rack (+/- $1200) comes to a total of $6200. |
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Post by noah shain on Feb 24, 2016 13:24:24 GMT -6
It's sexy
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Post by ericn on Feb 24, 2016 18:15:49 GMT -6
I'll take the CAPI 1608 if you go Purple my friend ! |
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Post by noah shain on Feb 25, 2016 0:01:23 GMT -6
I'll take the CAPI 1608 if you go Purple my friend ! I got 6 CAPI Eqs in it now too. Gotta build 10 more then 8 of Jeff's compressors and you can have it ;-) That purple would be great in a rolling rack tho... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 6:04:31 GMT -6
Is CAPI building the 8 channel / 4 group mixer ?
I seem to remember a picture a while back - did I imagine it ?
The Purple also looks a really nice design though..
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 25, 2016 6:17:07 GMT -6
YA the capi piece looked killer !
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Post by channelcat on Feb 25, 2016 7:31:46 GMT -6
Happy to see this finally hit the market, but I'm still thinking the Speck LiLo is where it's at! Once you add up all the components (and antiquated cabling), it's more than a LiLo 24 (even at the new pricing). I see the Lilo 16 out there at $10,600....maybe you mean the Speck X.Sum? This set up is aimed at the guys who have a rack, or two, of 500 modules in need of integration. Sure, you can start from scratch but that will add up quickly if you start with zero 500-series gear. The same way the LiLo integrates with racks of pre's and outboard, this is the same idea. Not sure anyone would purchase a Lilo if they had zero outboard, nothing to integrate...same concept here. The MFtwenty5 Mixer ($2900), Meters ($750), Fader Pack, 10 Mono/1 stereo ($1350) and the Sidecar Rack (+/- $1200) comes to a total of $6200. I was thinking about the LiLo 24 at $14,050 vs (3) MFtwenty5 Mixers, (3) Meters, (2) 10 Mono Fader Packs, and (1) 10 Mono + 1 Stereo Fader Pack ($14,700). With the Speck, you gain Auxes, Group, and Inserts. It's really about features and workflow. |
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Post by ericn on Feb 25, 2016 8:09:50 GMT -6
Is CAPI building the 8 channel / 4 group mixer ? I seem to remember a picture a while back - did I imagine it ? The Purple also looks a really nice design though.. Jeff says he has something in the works, but Noah's API 1608 is full of CAPI modules CAPI SUMMING and Scott Liebers DOA''s at this point it Needs a C in the logo. |
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Post by jayfitz on Feb 25, 2016 9:55:07 GMT -6
I see the Lilo 16 out there at $10,600....maybe you mean the Speck X.Sum? This set up is aimed at the guys who have a rack, or two, of 500 modules in need of integration. Sure, you can start from scratch but that will add up quickly if you start with zero 500-series gear. The same way the LiLo integrates with racks of pre's and outboard, this is the same idea. Not sure anyone would purchase a Lilo if they had zero outboard, nothing to integrate...same concept here. The MFtwenty5 Mixer ($2900), Meters ($750), Fader Pack, 10 Mono/1 stereo ($1350) and the Sidecar Rack (+/- $1200) comes to a total of $6200. I was thinking about the LiLo 24 at $14,050 vs (3) MFtwenty5 Mixers, (3) Meters, (2) 10 Mono Fader Packs, and (1) 10 Mono + 1 Stereo Fader Pack ($14,700). With the Speck, you gain Auxes, Group, and Inserts. It's really about features and workflow. Ah, that makes more sense. Sure, if you add up all the components of the MFtwenty5 it'll come out to be a bit more cost. They are different beasts as far sound and style though and now this modular system can satisfy the demand of faders, meters, etc. that many 500-series folks have been clamoring for. |
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Post by noah shain on Feb 25, 2016 11:45:37 GMT -6
Is CAPI building the 8 channel / 4 group mixer ? I seem to remember a picture a while back - did I imagine it ? The Purple also looks a really nice design though.. Jeff says he has something in the works, but Noah's API 1608 is full of CAPI modules CAPI SUMMING and Scott Liebers DOA''s at this point it Needs a C in the logo. It's actually still the stock summing. Jeff and I talked about modding the summing sections but it's a big Job and he's been busy as heck, as you guys know. We'll get there. At this point all the channels have Litz wire op transformers and EA input xformers. We also pulled a couple caps, changed a bunch of caps and added a zobel on the input transformer. It's 100% SL red dots though. I'm still trying to figure a way to get line level signals to go in through the EA input tranny without outboard pads. Mic and line are 2 different input paths. It would be more like a vp28. For now I'm in Eq building mode though. I'll get back to the mods when Mr S finds some free time ;-) I kinda want to replace all the knobs with CAPIs Sorry for the derail. Back on topic... |
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Post by ericn on Feb 25, 2016 13:49:21 GMT -6
Jeff says he has something in the works, but Noah's API 1608 is full of CAPI modules CAPI SUMMING and Scott Liebers DOA''s at this point it Needs a C in the logo. It's actually still the stock summing. Jeff and I talked about modding the summing sections but it's a big Job and he's been busy as heck, as you guys know. We'll get there. At this point all the channels have Litz wire op transformers and EA input xformers. We also pulled a couple caps, changed a bunch of caps and added a zobel on the input transformer. It's 100% SL red dots though. I'm still trying to figure a way to get line level signals to go in through the EA input tranny without outboard pads. Mic and line are 2 different input paths. It would be more like a vp28. For now I'm in Eq building mode though. I'll get back to the mods when Mr S finds some free time ;-) I kinda want to replace all the knobs with CAPIs Sorry for the derail. Back on topic... My bad! I think we need to start a campaign to get ED to do a modern Litz API 1 to 1 transformer , though I think I remember hearing somewhere that modern API line level input transformers are Jensen! When you do the Knobs I want a picture! |
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