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Post by matt on Feb 28, 2016 16:17:16 GMT -6
there's a very large kernel of truth to that. attitude is everything at times. you get in the zone, and you use the Force. its energy, you know. it is a production of emotion. Yes, absolutely. I would argue that the attitude brought about by confidence (or egomania) is essential. I think, of all the performing arts, singing is the toughest thing to master, all the while leaving the artist extremely vulnerable to criticism and rejection. No wonder your typical vocalist is a basket-case.
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Post by chasmanian on Feb 28, 2016 16:48:48 GMT -6
there's a very large kernel of truth to that. attitude is everything at times. you get in the zone, and you use the Force. its energy, you know. it is a production of emotion. Yes, absolutely. I would argue that the attitude brought about by confidence (or egomania) is essential. I think, of all the performing arts, singing is the toughest thing to master, all the while leaving the artist extremely vulnerable to criticism and rejection. No wonder your typical vocalist is a basket-case. enjoyed your post very much. very interesting, all you said. its so personal, eh? and people can be very mean in their criticism and rejection. yeah, people that get out there and sing live. wow, I give them a freakin ton of credit.
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Post by javamad on Apr 5, 2016 6:25:36 GMT -6
HI,
I had my first singing lesson at 45! With a classical teacher. I had been singing my own stuff since I was 14 ... and I was just OK, passable, never great.
3 lessons in I had discovered a power and force in my voice that translated directly to my singing. My range extended as a few tips took hold and I realized that those high and low notes were just a matter of getting the air through at the right speed.
My vocal tone did change somewhat but more from singing more clearly and with better technique.... but I still struggle with getting the emotion across. That's just me.
Take some lessons! You will not regret it.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 8, 2016 8:06:10 GMT -6
There's some very good advice here, so I might offer this, of course you can improve your voice, basically, practice more, practice properly, once you've gotten it straight exactly what to practice. M57 would know.
What's taken me a lifetime is to accept what I sound like. Some are fortunate, they just get on with being themselves. Obviously gifted vocalists, like Elvis, Ray Charles, just sound like they sound and run with it. That's not to say they didn't work at it, but it was clearly all there already. Other very popular singers with obviously fewer gifts vocally have made some of the greatest music, Bob Dylan, Springsteen, Jagger,et al.
What they're gifted at is communicating, you really feel what they're singing about. When Springsteen sings a song about his ex, you'd think they just handed him the divorce papers backstage.
So my advice, sure get some coaching, but find who you are and learn to accept that, then emphasize it. Got too much grit? Didn't hurt Tom Waits too much. Too shrill, didn't stop Van Morrison, pitchy, Bryan Ferry likes it that way.
We're all a work in progress. Good luck!
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Post by thehightenor on Apr 9, 2016 11:47:55 GMT -6
MJB,
Great post, just fantastic advice.
You've got to embrace who you are.
Whenever younger musicians are moaning about their "this or that" they don't like about their voice, height, looks, technique or even personality, I point out that someone has made a great career with no more than they have .... limitations are self imposed.
For years, I was frustrated with not being able to scream and belt like Brian Adams or Phil Collins, and thought it a limitation to my dreams.
Yet completely ignoring the fact that another artist (who I have a virtually identical voice too) Sting has made a great career without screaming all night down the mic.
I wish I had been more comfortable with just being me earlier on in my musical life, it would of made a huge difference.
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Post by ragan on Apr 9, 2016 13:07:41 GMT -6
There's some very good advice here, so I might offer this, of course you can improve your voice, basically, practice more, practice properly, once you've gotten it straight exactly what to practice. M57 would know. What's taken me a lifetime is to accept what I sound like. Some are fortunate, they just get on with being themselves. Obviously gifted vocalists, like Elvis, Ray Charles, just sound like they sound and run with it. That's not to say they didn't work at it, but it was clearly all there already. Other very popular singers with obviously fewer gifts vocally have made some of the greatest music, Bob Dylan, Springsteen, Jagger,et al. What they're gifted at is communicating, you really feel what they're singing about. When Springsteen sings a song about his ex, you'd think they just handed him the divorce papers backstage. So my advice, sure get some coaching, but find who you are and learn to accept that, then emphasize it. Got too much grit? Didn't hurt Tom Waits too much. Too shrill, didn't stop Van Morrison, pitchy, Bryan Ferry likes it that way. We're all a work in progress. Good luck! Fantastic post, Martin. Took me a long time to get over that hump too.
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