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Post by tonycamphd on Mar 14, 2016 6:34:22 GMT -6
I think it's mostly an excuse, if it ain't anchored and groovin, it ain't good to me, that said, unit7s tune is somewhat anchored though a bit uneasy..., not for me, I like stinky rhythm, natural and badass, a lot of these dudes don't have it. I usually feel uneasy too if it ain't anchored and I'm a sucker for a good groove. And this really is, I mean the stuff on the whole Vodoo album. It just takes a few listens to get into, but when you do it's the sexiest sh*t! Guess that it takes a badass groovy drummer like Questlove to pull it off. But hey T, if it ain't for you..  My first impression was cutesy and contrived, lyrics about rims, bitches and plasma screens expected in tow, I'll give it another listen this AM and hopefully see something worthwhile to me.... |
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Post by formatcyes on Mar 16, 2016 14:22:11 GMT -6
It's probably in sync. The problem with that is a properly timed beginning of a note rarely falls on a grid. Gridded and cutesy, a lousy contrived combo, people cutting in a room together feeding off of one another is thee shit! U know, music! 8) Now your talking crazy talk |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 10:51:08 GMT -6
Yeah I find the timing of this really distracting. In my world kicks and snares are snapped to the grid and if you can't competently play over that you're fired.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 22:22:54 GMT -6
Yes, this is it for me, too.
You *can* be off - as long as it is musical, makes a kind of artistic sense. But this example just sounds like if they did not care doing it right and maybe rebadging it as "live feeling", organic, artsy, whatever and left it like it was. To me it's just not right, missed it, sorry.
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Post by Randge on Mar 23, 2016 8:46:57 GMT -6
Ok, granted Anderson Paak is one of my favorite new singers. Love his REALNESS in his voice. And I think he's writing great songs. But why in the name of solder burns is everything so out of sync on this track??? Am I the only one so bothered by this??? It's the declining ability of musicians to be able to play 3 minutes without severe timing issues and outright clams. I am seeing it more and more. It's why I have a solid core of my favorite players who can consistently deliver the goods without endless hours of editing to charge my clients. |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Mar 31, 2016 13:12:34 GMT -6
U know what else has perfectly strict time? A clock, and I don't get too excited about hearing them tick, yet somehow people have come to think a buried click or laser metronomic time is good in music, maybe sometimes, but it's the exception not the rule. I agree. Perfect time is perfect time. But that's not how Hall and Oats did it. And THEY are what I listen to every time I'm tooling around in the studio cleaning up or re arranging things. I listen to Hall and Oats! |
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Mar 31, 2016 13:18:09 GMT -6
Ok, granted Anderson Paak is one of my favorite new singers. Love his REALNESS in his voice. And I think he's writing great songs. But why in the name of solder burns is everything so out of sync on this track??? Am I the only one so bothered by this??? It's the declining ability of musicians to be able to play 3 minutes without severe timing issues and outright clams. I am seeing it more and more. It's why I have a solid core of my favorite players who can consistently deliver the goods without endless hours of editing to charge my clients. And you're right, Randy. The problem with most music today is that we (myself included), are lazy. We don't want to put in the time to practice. That said, the live feel of imperfection is priceless. Thats music we really love. It's not on a grid, it's in the hands. |
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Mar 31, 2016 15:19:37 GMT -6
Perfect time is something implied in the music and not something that is responded to. It's a consciousness thing where performers breathe together. It is not imperfection. In fact it's quite the opposite! A lot of big hit drum machine records were played on pads or keyboards and not sequenced or otherwise quantized.
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Post by thehightenor on Apr 10, 2016 7:38:51 GMT -6
Things sounds bigger when the timing is little looser a kinda frequency "flam"
Anyhow I love this track, I've not heard of this artist before so it's a nice discovery for me.
The feel is a style statement, it sounds great to me I really love it.
Timing has an almost chronological element to me.
I noticed on a Sting album he did this 60's war protest song (called This War) cleverly he got all his super tight LA session musicns to play a bit looser and de-focused
like a 60's rock band - it had a nice rawness plus he mixed his vocal low so it was fighting to be heard in the mix.
All these elements make a clever stylistic statement, I don't know anything about Anderson .Paak but I really like his/there music and I think it sounds great and has a
really cool retro vibe.
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Post by noah shain on Apr 24, 2016 17:39:13 GMT -6
Wu Tang Clan
That stuff is SO wonky and SO good.
It informed so much of modern hip hop and R&B.
Samples that looped in an interesting and groovy out of time fashion.
The mixing of records on a primitive 2 turntable DJ rig was never perfect until computers got involved.
This music harkens back to Motown and great American classics in the writing and the instrument voices but the production and beat making is pure late 80s/90s hip hop.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 8:58:28 GMT -6
Yes, no offense to this type of beeing wonky.
It's great and definitely serves a musical purpose. You get it immediately when listening. It creates something i.e. a purposed tension.
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