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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 21, 2015 11:32:40 GMT -6
This might seem like a silly thing to bring up, but man...as I'm getting older, I'm thinking I really need to start watching how I do things. I spent a day working last week and my computer monitor has always been sitting on the second shelf of my desk and I have to look slightly up...and as a result, I've totally jacked my neck and right shoulder up. This has happened twice and both times it has been right after I've been working or an extended period. As we say in the south, I have a "crick" in my neck, base of where the spine and neck meet, shooting down to my right shoulder. Went to the chiropractor and things are a lot better, but damn. Yesterday I moved my monitor down to where I'm looking slightly down at it - is that the proper angle?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 21, 2015 11:37:24 GMT -6
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Post by svart on Jul 21, 2015 12:18:16 GMT -6
as someone with occasional back issues, I don't think it's the angle so much as it's the posture. I find that most, if not all, of my back problems come from slouching in my chair at work. If I'm into something and I sit for hours and hours, I find all the muscles in my back are completely tense and my spine is crooked.
I've started stretching as much as possible and sitting up straight and it's helping a lot.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 21, 2015 12:44:27 GMT -6
I broke my collarbone cycling ( silly story let's just say at 45 kph the hornet won  a while back and afterwards had an ergonomic assessment done at work. you definitely want to be looking straight ahead into the middle of the monitor, back straight, legs and knees should be at comfortable right angle, same with arms and lay naturally on arm rests. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 21, 2015 12:52:50 GMT -6
Man, do I know what you mean John. I've had ongoing neck issues so severe, I actual went to neurologist and had a brain scan and x-ray to see what was happening. I had tried chiropractors and physical therapy too, and they were really not very helpful. I've taken some mild meds, still, the pain was coming, and on occasion, debilitating.
Recently, I went to a recommended physical therapist/chiropracter, who does things differently than most. He worked on my neck, and I felt better for almost a month. So, I've concluded it's from my activities that my neck aches, and that's mainly from poor posture, screen height, screen size, and the chair itself.
I am committed to getting this more together. First stop, speaker stands, second, a new chair.
* kcat, sorry to hear about the broken collarbone, that's gotta be nasty..
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Post by mulmany on Jul 21, 2015 13:44:52 GMT -6
I use the video standard for screen hight. Your eyes should rest on the division between the bottom 1/3 and 2/3 of the screen. That point should correspond to the audio center of your main monitors.
Granted it gets trickier the more audio and video monitors you have.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 21, 2015 13:53:46 GMT -6
on my new desk i'm building i'm going to put a moveable monitor stand so i can actually duck it behind the desk out of sight when i'm at the 100% otb point, that said, i've though about the ability to move it around giving me a chance to change my long extended looking positions, that will definitely help, it's bad for you to stay still in one position for any long period of time, we don't even do that when we sleep, we toss about a bit to keep right, plus it's important to get up and walk about a bit to keep your legs from getting weird or(god forbid) blood clots!
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Post by Guitar on Jul 21, 2015 13:56:39 GMT -6
Yes I think you want the top of the monitor to be a bit above eye level but not too high. Neither slouching nor leaning back your neck and head. If you sit up straight and tall like you are going to meditate, the eye level should be about right with that posture. I'm like svart I tend to hunch and have bad posture when I get lazy and don't think about it. You certainly don't want your computer position to be contributing to that.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 21, 2015 16:18:17 GMT -6
As a recovering audiophile, one small thing doesn't escape me, monitors in the middle of the speakers will affect the soundstage negatively. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a workaround for that.
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Post by wiz on Jul 21, 2015 16:30:58 GMT -6
I have a special pair of glasses made that are just for sitting at my mixing desk. They focus at different distances depending on where I look through the lens... progressive? I have a27" monitor and its further away from me than my finger tips. Its in focus, when I look down at the keyboard its in focus and when I look at rack gear either side thats about 3 feet away, they are in focus. They weren't cheap to make, but they made a HUGE difference. I also used to have a monitor, well two, up about where yours where Johnkenn. I got the same issue as you, so I put them down on the desk top and it made a huge difference. cheers Wiz |
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Post by donr on Jul 21, 2015 17:04:40 GMT -6
Perhaps the solution is an Oculus Rift with a bean bag laptop virtual control surface for all your virtual gear. Work from your recliner and perfectly positioned monitors. Turn the display off for non-confirmation bias sonic decisions.
Or some kind of wireless heads up eyeglass monitor which would give you the info no matter where you were in the room. Earbuds optional.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 21, 2015 17:31:55 GMT -6
Perhaps the solution is an Oculus Rift with a bean bag laptop virtual control surface for all your virtual gear. Work from your recliner and perfectly positioned monitors. Turn the display off for non-confirmation bias sonic decisions. Or some kind of wireless heads up eyeglass monitor which would give you the info no matter where you were in the room. Earbuds optional. LOL, I love it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 16:58:46 GMT -6
Perhaps the solution is an Oculus Rift with a bean bag laptop virtual control surface for all your virtual gear. Work from your recliner and perfectly positioned monitors. Turn the display off for non-confirmation bias sonic decisions. Or some kind of wireless heads up eyeglass monitor which would give you the info no matter where you were in the room. Earbuds optional. Don, you are killing me. LOL. My brother and me discussed the Rift last year for several things, because we are totally mad gearheads also with computers. But you can top this easily. 8 ) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2015 17:08:49 GMT -6
View angle too high upwards is really bad.
I had first neck problems when i was an IT translator freelancer with 28 because of this, it caused also bad headaches coming from the neck...
Looking upwards can not only hurt your neck but also can lead to a more hypnotic or weary state of mind, which worsens the negative effects that staring on a display already has.
You also move your neck or even your whole body less while working like this. Also a bad thing at work...
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Post by M57 on Jul 23, 2015 17:33:38 GMT -6
I have a special pair of glasses made that are just for sitting at my mixing desk. They focus at different distances depending on where I look through the lens... progressive? I have a27" monitor and its further away from me than my finger tips. Its in focus, when I look down at the keyboard its in focus and when I look at rack gear either side thats about 3 feet away, they are in focus. They weren't cheap to make, but they made a HUGE difference. I also used to have a monitor, well two, up about where yours where Johnkenn. I got the same issue as you, so I put them down on the desk top and it made a huge difference. cheers Wiz I highly recommend readingglasses.com - very affordable - I normally buy readers by the three-pack from BJ's for $20 and I'm constantly losing them because I ONLY need them when I have to read something. Glasses from the site are more expensive to be sure, but I wear them a lot more - and as a result, don't misplace them. I've been buying 'computer' glasses from them for the last year or so. www.readingglasses.com/computer-reading-glasses-for-men/ It's been a complete game-changer for me. I don't have a prescription and I'm constantly misplacing my readers. It took a few weeks, but once I got the hang of them - I was hooked. I recently discovered the 'clics' www.readingglasses.com/clic-classic-computer-no-line/?color=TortoiseWhen I'm not using them, which is less and less, the thing hangs around my neck all day. I'm one happy old fogy. |
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a while back and afterwards had an ergonomic assessment done at work.
