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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 3, 2015 16:04:39 GMT -6
I actually think this is really good. I don't really relate to the John Deere thing, but the lyrics are really well done and the production is killer. There's a ton of sub in that kick...but hey, rap songs have it. This is as good as anything that's out there.
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Post by swurveman on Jul 3, 2015 16:39:01 GMT -6
Interesting stereo effects on his voice that make it much bigger compared to his tunes in the 2000's which were pretty dry and smaller in the stereo field comparatively.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 3, 2015 18:18:22 GMT -6
Yeah - I assume that's just a slapback delay, right?
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Post by mobeach on Jul 4, 2015 7:32:13 GMT -6
It's not bad by todays Country standards, and seems like a well written song, even though it doesn't sound much like Country "Love Somebody" still does it for me as far as Urban goes.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 4, 2015 8:03:31 GMT -6
No link to the song? What's up with that?
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Post by swurveman on Jul 4, 2015 8:32:39 GMT -6
Yeah - I assume that's just a slapback delay, right? Yep. Interesting that the background reverb on the words "Freedom" and Eden" sounds like a mono verb, or a stereo verb panned closer together than the stereo slap. Puts them inside his vocal and back. I don't listen to Country anymore, and Urban can probably do whatever he wants, but also the use of the gated snare/sample (very short decay) sounds different than a typical country snare. I would suspect that more hip hop drums are acomin' if they haven't already.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 4, 2015 10:35:49 GMT -6
You can hear it on itunes.
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Post by jeromemason on Jul 4, 2015 12:25:44 GMT -6
Keith is kind of like Brad Paisley to me, those guys are pioneers and I'll dig whatever they do, they've always had a little quirkiness to their style so it's cool. When other artist totally change what they've been doing for a long time, or some of that new stuff that makes absolutely no sense plays I pass and roll my eyes. Interesting song though, and I bet the writers version sounds totally different than that. I like it though, pretty cool song.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 4, 2015 12:38:20 GMT -6
OK, here ya go.. Been a little busy at the helm lately eh John ? ;-)
I gotta be the voice of dissent here today, I think this sucks. It's patronizing, and preaches to the choir. Musically, it's like a candy bar. Don't get me wrong, I tought his Cop Car was really good, so I can roll that way sometimes. Also, Urban has real chops, so I respect him, but I think he can do much better than this formulaic innocuos saccharine.
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Post by b1 on Jul 4, 2015 13:07:13 GMT -6
What number in the long line of pop culture reference ditties is this one... Why do I think I hear Autotune in it?
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Post by mobeach on Jul 4, 2015 13:25:27 GMT -6
He's just following the market that's already there, if you want the big tours you have to play the game.
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Post by swurveman on Jul 4, 2015 13:37:06 GMT -6
He's just following the market that's already there, if you want the big tours you have to play the game. He's selling guitars on the Home Shopping Network. I'm always kinda conflicted about that kind of thing. At first I think "really?", but then I think if it gets some kid playing, or if he uses the money for a good cause its good.
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Post by b1 on Jul 4, 2015 14:07:17 GMT -6
If the kid took that guitar and did something that didn't make Colt Ford look like Aristotle... that would be cool!
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Post by gouge on Jul 13, 2015 4:39:41 GMT -6
i grew up about 800 meters from keith urbans front door and we went to the same school.
lyrically i find this song odd because the lyrics don't match the picture i had growing up.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 13, 2015 22:07:01 GMT -6
It's storytelling I guess. I mean, Mick Jagger probably wasn't born in a crossfire hurricane either, but then Jumping jack Flash was their gardener, so writing can get weird sometimes. I do feel it's contrived though, and not enough real life translated to song for my tastes, so I think you're right gouge. Give me Steve Earle any day.
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Post by levon on Jul 14, 2015 7:59:04 GMT -6
OK, here ya go.. Been a little busy at the helm lately eh John ? ;-) I gotta be the voice of dissent here today, I think this sucks. It's patronizing, and preaches to the choir. Musically, it's like a candy bar. Don't get me wrong, I tought his Cop Car was really good, so I can roll that way sometimes. Also, Urban has real chops, so I respect him, but I think he can do much better than this formulaic innocuos saccharine. Afraid I'm with Martin on this one. What a stupid string of lyrical cliches. A crossfire hurricane is a lyrically far superior picture than a prom queen in a Chevy. Especially since that picture was not stolen from somebody else's song. Another boulevard of broken dreams, really? Apart from the fact that the genre is not my thing anyway, I had expected a more mature offering from Mr. Urban. Looks like he's desperately buddying up the the bro-country folks to sell records? Try on some James Taylor for class.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 14, 2015 21:44:14 GMT -6
Well, maybe I'm just around this stuff so much that I've lost all perspective. But I think it's really well-crafted. Now, does it say anything? Not particularly...but neither did half of every rock song ever written. If there's a down side to it, it's just a rattled off list of pop culture references, but they're rattled off in a creative manner...and that's the current style.
I still blame rap for starting all this inner rhyme say nothing stuff. Not that this is...but...
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Post by gouge on Jul 14, 2015 22:03:02 GMT -6
I agree it's finely crafted. I can see the attempted pop art there.
I also think urban is immensely talented.
still I think it is little contrived. but that's pop music. pop music doesn't need to make sense it only needs to make money.
lest we forget when pop and art had meaning.
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Post by donr on Jul 16, 2015 9:54:41 GMT -6
I actually think this is really good. I don't really relate to the John Deere thing, but the lyrics are really well done and the production is killer. There's a ton of sub in that kick...but hey, rap songs have it. This is as good as anything that's out there. It does sound good. The song reminds me of "We Didn't Start The Fire." I didn't like that song, or songs listing cultural references. Also " a child of backseat freedom" as a celebratory refrain bothers me. Just what is Keith celebrating with this song? I don't have a clue. I guess I'm turning into an old fart. [hadda add this lift from cracked.com]
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Post by b1 on Jul 16, 2015 14:07:03 GMT -6
IMO, the writer is a disturbed individual, which doesn't say much for Mr. Urban for buying into it. They are about two+ decades too late to ride the Pop Ref wave... John 3:16?... Really!?... That makes the song look disconnected from itself. It seems like they are trying to cash in on touching as many lifestyles as they can, which immediately alienated me. The more I think about it the more gimmicky it seems. Fail! I M O
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Post by b1 on Jul 16, 2015 14:10:20 GMT -6
... of course, the dumbed down sheeple are none the wiser.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Sept 9, 2015 9:23:55 GMT -6
Guys I'm sorry but I just can't manage to accept the electro music/hillbilly lyric combo. It just doesn't register in my brain for some reason. Just sounds wrong. Maybe it's where I was raised listening to grassroots lyrics with grassroots instrumentation. Whatever it just doesn't click. Some things just don't go together. This to me is one of them.
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Post by tonycamphd on Sept 9, 2015 10:23:54 GMT -6
ewww, i love one direction!
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Post by jsteiger on Sept 10, 2015 19:41:06 GMT -6
When I first heard the track I didn't like it but it has grown on me. I'll take this over the typical bro-country any day.
I have noticed that Chris McHugh does not tour and play live for Keith anymore. I've read that he was the band leader and played on all of his records. Wonder what happened there?
I saw this vid a few weeks ago on FB. The making of the "3 Johns". Pretty cool stuff all at Blackbird. Matt Chamberlain is on skins (and drum programming).
We found out that the Urban family looked at the 440 acre farm right next door to us in Nashville but passed because it was "too much land". Seriously? Not like he would take care of it himself. I imagine they would be pretty cool neighbors to have. "Hey Keith, come on over and lets test this new mic preamp".
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Post by jsteiger on Sept 10, 2015 19:42:34 GMT -6
And lets not forget that Dann Huff is one badass mo-fo! Producing or playing!
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