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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 27, 2015 15:28:55 GMT -6
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but Jeff could build exact clones of the 3232 and there shouldn't be any problem, right? Doesn't the patent only last 20 years? So - worst comes to worst, he has to change the name and the logo...but they're suing him for damages, right?
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Post by tonycamphd on Jun 27, 2015 15:37:29 GMT -6
the whole thing's a joke, they already have seemed to have perjured themselves in WRITING in the complaint, patents only last 17.5 years, an op amp symbol and an arrow are not the same things, they don't own the knobs, colors and numbers are not trademarkable/ or patentable, the Jury has no power to create their own rules, attorneys cannot submit known untruths or feelings as evidence, a competent attorney would object, motion for striking, and have so much of what they're claiming dismissed as the judge would HAVE no choice but to sustain it unless he wanted to be seen as a laughing stock! None of Jeffs designs are directly comparable to what API makes.
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Post by ericn on Jun 27, 2015 15:42:40 GMT -6
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but Jeff could build exact clones of the 3232 and there shouldn't be any problem, right? Doesn't the patent only last 20 years? So - worst comes to worst, he has to change the name and the logo...but they're suing him for damages, right? It isn't about that It is an image on a website as a background of a product that is in fact an API product, this image is being used to sell a Product that is similar in nature and the Console Image plus the CAPI/ API thing and the Arrow / Double Diode logo could if presented right be taken by a non Audio person as a an effort to imply an Endorsement or relationship ! Even when you can poke holes in all the points you still have to look at the whole picture! It sucks ! Honestly I think Larry sees things this way because this what he would do! Biggest problems might be Idiots on GS and Analog Services because this points to the fact that even if one takes Jeff efforts as trying to show a difference people are confused and well not always all that bright!
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Post by tonycamphd on Jun 27, 2015 15:48:41 GMT -6
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but Jeff could build exact clones of the 3232 and there shouldn't be any problem, right? Doesn't the patent only last 20 years? So - worst comes to worst, he has to change the name and the logo...but they're suing him for damages, right? It isn't about that It is an image on a website as a background of a product that is in fact an API product, this image is being used to sell a Product that is similar in nature and the Console Image plus the CAPI/ API thing and the Arrow / Double Diode logo could if presented right be taken by a non Audio person as a an effort to imply an Endorsement or relationship ! Even when you can poke holes in all the points you still have to look at the whole picture! It sucks ! Honestly I think Larry sees things this way because this what he would do! Biggest problems might be Idiots on GS and Analog Services because this points to the fact that even if one takes Jeff efforts as trying to show a difference people are confused and well not always all that bright! isn't that image the Olive console? Pull down the Heiders and make them DIY kits, even though they're HEIDER pre's aka completely redesigned.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 27, 2015 16:01:18 GMT -6
Lets not give Larry any legal advice lol
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Post by ericn on Jun 27, 2015 16:02:39 GMT -6
It isn't about that It is an image on a website as a background of a product that is in fact an API product, this image is being used to sell a Product that is similar in nature and the Console Image plus the CAPI/ API thing and the Arrow / Double Diode logo could if presented right be taken by a non Audio person as a an effort to imply an Endorsement or relationship ! Even when you can poke holes in all the points you still have to look at the whole picture! It sucks ! Honestly I think Larry sees things this way because this what he would do! Biggest problems might be Idiots on GS and Analog Services because this points to the fact that even if one takes Jeff efforts as trying to show a difference people are confused and well not always all that bright! isn't that image the Olive console? Pull down the Heiders and make them DIY kits, even though they're HEIDER pre's aka completely redesigned. Tone pull up classiccapi.com on an IPhone it's an API console! Don't think pulling stuff will help. I think Larry sees Jeff as low lying fruit, and if this works others will see him pull the same thing ! Of course he forgets many modular consoles pre date API, even API 300 and 500 frames were not API designs they were generic card frame formats ! He going to sue some companies that hold the patens for those? Oh yeah Larry go sue Aphex for their lunchbox it pre dates yours!
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Post by ericn on Jun 27, 2015 16:04:13 GMT -6
We need to see if we are allowed to file freind of the court briefs!
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Post by tonycamphd on Jun 27, 2015 16:15:46 GMT -6
looks like GS 86'd Les's thread on the highend forum.
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Post by ericn on Jun 27, 2015 16:17:46 GMT -6
Rack and roll was one of our advertisers, so maybe you could not give Larry advice on how to be vindictive and petty. Comment ? What comment? Edited JK cause your right!
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 27, 2015 16:18:17 GMT -6
Saw that. The other one is still live, but it is all about API love. These yahoos are your potential jury.
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Post by ericn on Jun 27, 2015 16:19:08 GMT -6
looks like GS 86'd Les's thread on the highend forum. Shocked I tell you! and everybody here's been nice to Lugo!
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 27, 2015 16:20:16 GMT -6
I saw he was talking about moving to Nashville too...hmmm...I keed, I keed. anyway, it might not have been him.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jun 27, 2015 16:21:24 GMT -6
Looks like they 86'd the other one know as well.....
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 27, 2015 16:24:05 GMT -6
Says it was moved...but it won't let you access it without logging in. Someone confirm whether they moved it or deleted it. It's just sad.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 16:31:20 GMT -6
"THE VERY SAME PARTS" Still can't get over this....really? Laughable. People
All the best for Jeff!
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Post by scumbum on Jun 27, 2015 16:31:27 GMT -6
I posted in both threads and they BOTH disappeared .
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Post by ericn on Jun 27, 2015 16:31:39 GMT -6
I can't find either Thread on GS!
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Post by LesC on Jun 27, 2015 16:32:48 GMT -6
looks like GS 86'd Les's thread on the highend forum. Yes, and I got this private message from Jules: It's part of our terms and rules that we disallow legal dispute stuff top spill over into the forums. They are going to have to sort it out between themselves. The may be better suited to your own Facebook pages - not ours - thanks
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Post by ericn on Jun 27, 2015 16:35:17 GMT -6
Gee I might go get myself band!!!
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Post by EmRR on Jun 27, 2015 16:36:11 GMT -6
I just used my Electro-Voice 312 microphone clips. They work much better than the API 312.
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Post by ericn on Jun 27, 2015 16:39:34 GMT -6
I just used my Electro-Voice 312 microphone clips. They work much better than the API 312. I'm confused are you saying I can use it as a preamp? ?
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Post by jayson on Jun 27, 2015 16:40:13 GMT -6
it might just be easier to change the name. I really don't think it would hurt him. And if he's moving to Nashville, it could be a fresh start for the company. I had mentioned at one point if he moved to Nashville he should change the name to CAPN - I think it's kind of a cooler acronym anyway. Then he could put out a compressor/color box and call it the "Crunch". I'd have some CAPN Crunch in my rack for sure!
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 27, 2015 16:40:24 GMT -6
Well...i see where he's coming from...we've gotten a few new members all of a sudden.
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Post by EmRR on Jun 27, 2015 16:41:09 GMT -6
I just used my Electro-Voice 312 microphone clips. They work much better than the API 312. I'm confused are you saying I can use it as a preamp? ? No, they hold mics much better.
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Post by ericn on Jun 27, 2015 16:42:47 GMT -6
Man the Devil imody didn't show up?
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