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Post by b1 on Jul 30, 2015 9:09:41 GMT -6
So are you Windows users going to take the plunge on Windows 10? I noticed this morning that automatic updates on my Windows 7 computer tried to install 10, but the install failed. Not sure how to get it to install successfully if I decide I actually want 10 on my machine. It would be nice to take advantage of the free upgrade if 10 is a good path to take. Go to "Windows Update" in the Control Panel and look for optional updates. |
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Post by horvitz on Jul 30, 2015 11:35:22 GMT -6
Ha.. Well, 6 hours in and I just had my first blue screen.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 12:25:00 GMT -6
Whoops.
Haven't seen a bluescreen for years. Not nostalgic about that though.
I had time to see the presentation video fully now.
ONE slide of the presentation was very interesting. The things they "consider" to implement. Some of these are very overdue. If you ask me. Midi routing. Really? Think JACK on Linux. USB 2 class compliant audio drivers? Heck, they are too fast for me... :-P
Etc.pp..
Yeah, they think about musicians. Moving the audio core to a different processor core than networks, wow. Who would have ever come to that. No, this is not rocket physics, it is totally overdue stuff, that should have been taken care of long before.
Driver model that supports ultra-low latency. OK. Let's wait another few years for devices that take advantage of this and have drivers available that actually use these features...
Yes, alot of hot air at the moment. More of a "no, we have not forgotten that there are musicians. At least not completely..."
Hrmpf.
OK, rant over...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 12:37:02 GMT -6
I would be completely happy if they would fix the ugly glitch that is known for years with using a high polling rate mouse on very high dpi display desktops. Todays common support answer: "Your mouse is not certified by Microsoft." LOL. Sure, it's not. It's not crippled to a low polling rate by the driver...
Stuff like this drives me crazy in their attitude...
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Post by keymod on Jul 31, 2015 5:26:30 GMT -6
I read on another Forum that Steinberg has issued a warning to NOT switch to Windows 10. Does anyone know if this is true? What about any other music-related software companies? I am especially interested in how Harrison Mixbus3 would tolerate the change, as they had such a long time simply bringing that out.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jul 31, 2015 8:32:08 GMT -6
I've heard there are problems with QuickTime although it seems to be working fine here so it could just be an installer problem for people trying to install it.
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Post by b1 on Jul 31, 2015 11:39:52 GMT -6
I read on another Forum that Steinberg has issued a warning to NOT switch to Windows 10. Does anyone know if this is true? What about any other music-related software companies? I am especially interested in how Harrison Mixbus3 would tolerate the change, as they had such a long time simply bringing that out. Steinberg did say they didn't have Win10 drivers. Haven't heard about Cubase, but assume it's the same - unsupported on Win10 |
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Post by mobeach on Aug 5, 2015 17:40:30 GMT -6
I installed it just now, Reaper 64 bit works fine, Native Instruments and Omnisphere work well, no complaints yet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2015 4:46:55 GMT -6
Btw. a Consumer's Central in germany already named Windows 10 as "spying machine". According to them, Windows 10 collects more personal data than any windows before.
The data collection contains age, name, sex, location, digital purchases, used search tags, browsed websites ....
Accepting the terms of the license you are actually giving away alot of your personal behaviour data.
As always, parts of this can be switched out with system control settings, but are on by default...
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Post by jimwilliams on Aug 11, 2015 9:17:25 GMT -6
Billy Gates skipped Win 9 for Win 10. He should have called it Win 1984. Imagine what goodies their free updates will install?
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 11, 2015 10:43:15 GMT -6
You give away lots more personal data in just a Google search than anything windows does. The malware crowd really want to keep people on windows xp and 7 so you can expect lots of doom and gloom being spread.
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Post by b1 on Aug 11, 2015 11:30:36 GMT -6
ixquick The world's most private search engine. Uses Google by proxy without storing any data. Click the link on the following web page to install to your browser: www.ixquick.com/ |
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Post by mobeach on Aug 11, 2015 13:04:42 GMT -6
Btw. a Consumer's Central in germany already named Windows 10 as "spying machine". According to them, Windows 10 collects more personal data than any windows before. The data collection contains age, name, sex, location, digital purchases, used search tags, browsed websites .... Accepting the terms of the license you are actually giving away alot of your personal behaviour data. As always, parts of this can be switched out with system control settings, but are on by default... I was denied a Federal job just because of things I've said on Facebook  |
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Post by jazznoise on Aug 11, 2015 16:23:34 GMT -6
Pretty funny seeing this thread today. I just upgraded my tower to Windows 7. I wouldn't have bothered at all, but I'm running 64 bit plugins on my laptop.
With things like OS I tend to think you need a year wait at minimum before you join in. Let other people do the guinea pig work!
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 12, 2015 11:36:42 GMT -6
I just add a second system drive with the old setup to fall back on. Thus far I like windows 10 better than 8.1 and lots better than 7. I hated the 8.0 interface but the added speed was a plus and I'm rarely using the OS interface anyway so I put up with it. 8.1 was a serious improvement once I knew my way around. I had even set XP up with aliases to look like what I was familiar with using a mac. I'm not one of these die-hards who insists that windows look like NT which I hate.
So far, zero problems with windows 10.
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Post by mobeach on Aug 12, 2015 13:24:13 GMT -6
I just add a second system drive with the old setup to fall back on. Thus far I like windows 10 better than 8.1 and lots better than 7. I hated the 8.0 interface but the added speed was a plus and I'm rarely using the OS interface anyway so I put up with it. 8.1 was a serious improvement once I knew my way around. I had even set XP up with aliases to look like what I was familiar with using a mac. I'm not one of these die-hards who insists that windows look like NT which I hate. So far, zero problems with windows 10. Same here, except it's hard to find the control panel. |
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 12, 2015 15:54:14 GMT -6
Right click on the start button gives you all of that.
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Post by timmyboy on Aug 15, 2015 17:11:21 GMT -6
For what it's worth....
I'm using Windows 10 and there has been absolutely no problems. Cubase 8 pro, slate waves etc etc - the upgrade messed up nothing and the OS is beautiful. Be careful not to be scared of the unknown
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 16, 2015 5:16:25 GMT -6
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 16, 2015 8:04:57 GMT -6
At this point the problem only seems to occur with SD cards from Sound Devices recorders. It sounds a lot like an old problem with zip files encoded by the mac's built in encoder flipping an encryption bit.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 20, 2015 11:15:45 GMT -6
Technical update on the Sound Devices / Windows 10 memory card issue:
Working with Sound Devices and key members of the audio and video production community (thanks!) we’ve identified the cause of the SD/CF card corruption.
In Windows 10, we introduced the EFS (Encrypting File System) for FAT32 media. To identify a file as encrypted, we use one of our bits in a Microsoft-use byte in the file entry. This file entry exists for each file on the card. For non-encrypted files, this bit should be set to zero. This bit was incorrectly set to one by the Sound Devices recorders. Because we did not use this bit in that byte prior to Windows 10, Sound Devices’ testing would not necessarily have revealed any issues.
When Windows 10 would mount the card, it would read the bit, and treat the individual files as encrypted. Depending upon what accessed the files, the result of this could be as simple as the inability to copy the file, or actual file corruption as the encryption header overwrote the RIFF WAV header.
Sound Devices has the information now to update their future firmware if desired. Because we don’t want anyone to lose data, we’re implementing an additional check in Windows 10 to confirm a file is encrypted before modifying the header, which will ensure we don’t corrupt these files going forward. (If the bit is set and we cannot confirm the file is actually an EFS file, we’ll simply treat it normally.) We’ll have more information on this very soon. We're working to make the patch available as quickly as possible.
We have not identified any other sources of incorrect file system entries at this time. There was speculation about certain brands of card readers, or upgrade vs fresh installs of Windows 10, or any wav files written from Windows 10, but none of that turned out to be related to the issue. If you do know of other sources of file corruption and can provide me with specific details with repeatable scenario, we’ll look into it for sure.
Thanks to Sound Devices and members of the community for responding quickly and getting us card images and additional data about the issue.
Pete
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Post by b1 on Aug 20, 2015 14:26:24 GMT -6
Thanks for reporting this, Bob. It's appreciated!
Hope it's going well otherwise.
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Post by Guitar on Aug 23, 2015 7:39:16 GMT -6
I was very happy to get a free and legal version of Windows 10 installed but I'm just using it for daily browsing, not audio. I'm going to wait for Cubase 8 to be fully compatible before I make that switch. Steinberg is releasing reports on their work on this, it's not there yet.
Overall though it's a nice upgrade. The bootloader is a lot faster, which saves me time switching to my recording partition. The new Start Menu and taskbar are convenient too. I didn't hate Windows 8 but 10 seems a little cleaner or something, hard to describe. The main, pointless thing I'm focused on is the new black color scheme instead of the dark blue. Seems pretty stable, no weird crashes or anything yet.
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