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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 16, 2015 14:01:18 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 16, 2015 15:07:54 GMT -6
Nice! So why is this better than any other plugin eq I have? Just the way it reacts with the turn of the knobs? Guess I should just demo.
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Post by Randge on Feb 16, 2015 15:57:15 GMT -6
I have a pair of the analog ones you can try with it, John.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 16, 2015 16:09:48 GMT -6
Nice! So why is this better than any other plugin eq I have? Just the way it reacts with the turn of the knobs? Guess I should just demo. It's obviously better because it looks like hardware.  Really though, I'm probably going to pass at $150. I'm with you, I've got plenty of plug in eq's and I can't imagine this being much better. |
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Post by deehope on Feb 16, 2015 16:24:33 GMT -6
This is my favorite hardware eq. If this is even close I'm gonna be floored.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 16, 2015 17:19:42 GMT -6
Try the demo guys, the electra does have different eq points which you may appreciate or maybe not .
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Post by deehope on Feb 16, 2015 18:02:45 GMT -6
I don't have a ilok. .. not excited about getting gone either but if this is the real deal I'll take the plunge. Do you have a hardware electra? Try the demo guys, the electra does have different eq points which you may appreciate or maybe not . |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 16, 2015 18:11:00 GMT -6
Maybe we can con Randge into downloading and giving his thoughts. I know he has the hardware. |
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Post by deehope on Feb 16, 2015 18:34:02 GMT -6
At first I was thinking it was too good to be true but the more I think about it. Out of all the eqs I've ever used this is the one that I think has the best chance of being recreated by a plugin only because it doesn't have a mojo or vibe really. When you use it you don't think of trannies you just have a more awakened version of what you ran through it. It's really like it was recorded that way and not eqed. Maybe we can con Randge into downloading and giving his thoughts. I know he has the hardware. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 16, 2015 20:00:22 GMT -6
I don't have a ilok. .. not excited about getting gone either but if this is the real deal I'll take the plunge. Do you have a hardware electra? Try the demo guys, the electra does have different eq points which you may appreciate or maybe not . no but i have been reading the reviews and threads! I admit it i'm a kush fanboy . The only reason I haven't bought the hw 19 inch electra is i knew the warm pultecs were coming and I can't afford both but I have almost bought 2 used electra ! |
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Post by BradM on Feb 16, 2015 20:08:18 GMT -6
Whoa! I had no idea this was coming.
I have to agree with deehope. The analog Electra circuit lends itself very well to DSP emulation. It was always intended to be as sonically faithful to the source as possible both in the time and frequency domain. Distortion is kept very low by the choice of op amps and capacitors. I even included a jumper in the circuit so you can bypass the coupling cap after the differential receiver...because I'm anal like that. So I wouldn't think a lot of intensive/fancy saturation or distortion modeling would be necessary.
What's going to make the Electra DSP a great plugin will be the same reasons the hardware is a great piece: it doesn't muck up your audio and it allows you to get results quickly without dicking around.
I'd like to hear this thing.
Brad
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 16, 2015 20:13:44 GMT -6
Whoa! I had no idea this was coming. I have to agree with deehope. The analog Electra circuit lends itself very well to DSP emulation. It was always intended to be as sonically faithful to the source as possible both in the time and frequency domain. Distortion is kept very low by the choice of op amps and capacitors. I even included a jumper in the circuit so you can bypass the coupling cap after the differential receiver...because I'm anal like that. So I wouldn't think a lot of fancy saturation or distortion modeling would be necessary. What's going to make the Electra DSP a great plugin will be the same reasons the hardware is a great piece: it doesn't muck up your audio and it allows you to get results quickly without dicking around. I'd like to hear this thing. Brad He gonna give you royalties on the dsp version?  |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 16, 2015 20:41:46 GMT -6
The music business is a cruel and shallow money
trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and
pimps run free, and good men die like dogs.
There's also a negative side.
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Post by odyssey76 on Feb 16, 2015 21:02:36 GMT -6
This is my favorite hardware eq. If this is even close I'm gonna be floored. I'll demo this tomorrow night. I have a pair of hardware Electra's and they're currently locked on a vocal and snare for a mix I'm working on. This is a great opportunity for me to match settings and A/B the two. I'll report back what I hear..... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 21:28:43 GMT -6
Either the plugin will fall as short as the others or the Electra will no longer be my next purchase.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 19, 2015 18:39:54 GMT -6
Grabbed the demo; impressed so far, very smooth, presence and clarity ! on sale at jrr nice large gui too, its brown so that makes eq sound better right ? you definitely know when its bypassed !    |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 19, 2015 18:41:19 GMT -6
I tried it for a sec too...but ended up using something else because I didn't want to slow down to figure out. Thought it sounded nice...
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Post by odyssey76 on Feb 20, 2015 10:05:15 GMT -6
Ok, I got a chance to do some quick A/B comparison between the hardware and the plug.
I matched the settings the best I could but this has to be done visually. The Electras do not have specific freq. marking points and they are not detented so the test was far from scientific.
I have to say that the plug is extremely close, closer than I thought it would be. On both snare and vocal I got the same result. The plug takes a tiny bit of high end detail out of the audio source. I mean tiny bit.......as in nitpicky. I believe this could be compensated by boosting those freq's a little. The hardware, which I love, just keeps your source so true and vibrant.
Also - I want to say that the plug is not adding any low end or making things mushy with the high end loss - it sounds really great - just not quite as extended.
I'd like to hear what others have to say about this as well......
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Post by mdmitch2 on Feb 20, 2015 10:10:57 GMT -6
Ok, I got a chance to do some quick A/B comparison between the hardware and the plug. I have to say that the plug is extremely close, closer than I thought it would be. Thanks -- makes me feel a little less horrible about selling my hardware unit. People on the purple site seem to be saying the same regarding the high frequencies. |
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Post by deehope on Feb 20, 2015 15:10:47 GMT -6
This is great to know because I don't tend to reach for the Electra when I'm working with the top end of a signal. So if the mids are nailed I'm set. Ok, I got a chance to do some quick A/B comparison between the hardware and the plug. I matched the settings the best I could but this has to be done visually. The Electras do not have specific freq. marking points and they are not detented so the test was far from scientific. I have to say that the plug is extremely close, closer than I thought it would be. On both snare and vocal I got the same result. The plug takes a tiny bit of high end detail out of the audio source. I mean tiny bit.......as in nitpicky. I believe this could be compensated by boosting those freq's a little. The hardware, which I love, just keeps your source so true and vibrant. Also - I want to say that the plug is not adding any low end or making things mushy with the high end loss - it sounds really great - just not quite as extended. I'd like to hear what others have to say about this as well...... |
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Post by BradM on Feb 20, 2015 18:38:44 GMT -6
This is great to know because I don't tend to reach for the Electra when I'm working with the top end of a signal. [ I do! Software just can't touch that magic. Haha.  Brad |
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Post by Randge on Feb 21, 2015 11:03:09 GMT -6
It would be pretty hard to match settings unless you used test tones I would think. It is a wonderful eq that forces you to use your ears and that is the beauty of it. I will have to listen to the software when my ears unclog as I have been under the weather for the last few days.
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Post by wiz on Feb 21, 2015 17:12:59 GMT -6
I had a quick play with the plug in. too finicky and difficult with a mouse.
I do not like the interface.
I Have never used the hardware.. its on my list though.
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Post by odyssey76 on Feb 22, 2015 7:19:34 GMT -6
It would be pretty hard to match settings unless you used test tones I would think. It is a wonderful eq that forces you to use your ears and that is the beauty of it. I will have to listen to the software when my ears unclog as I have been under the weather for the last few days. R Yes, I agree. I love the fact that I have to use my ears and I'm not staring at another digital parametric EQ trying to adjust Q, etc. With the Electras I start dialing in and I know pretty quickly whether it's what I want or not - then I move on. Plus they sound terrific...... |
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Post by odyssey76 on Feb 22, 2015 7:22:38 GMT -6
I had a quick play with the plug in. too finicky and difficult with a mouse. I do not like the interface. I Have never used the hardware.. its on my list though. cheers Wiz Same experience with the interface, "finicky" describes it well and slows me down.....I suppose I'd get used to it but certainly a first impression. |
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