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Post by lolo on Aug 15, 2013 9:04:05 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 15, 2013 10:03:53 GMT -6
I've used it with it's little brother the TLA-50. Good experience with both. I mainly opt'd for an LA-2A for vocals when I had that as an option, and pushed the 100 to bass, but I've liked what I heard from the 100 on both sources. I also had some fun with the TLA-50 on drum room.
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Post by Ward on Aug 15, 2013 10:55:49 GMT -6
I've used it with it's little brother the TLA-50. Good experience with both. I mainly opt'd for an LA-2A for vocals when I had that as an option, and pushed the 100 to bass, but I've liked what I heard from the 100 on both sources. I also had some fun with the TLA-50 on drum room. Ever used the "grindy" LA4 on bass? It's a beautiful thing! My general rule of thumb: LA2As for vocals, wind instruments, violins and the like. LA3As for guitars electric and acoustic, mandolin and that family. La4s for bass, kick, snare or anything else for you wish to smear or grind a little. Of course, a CL1b is a GLORIOUS thing on Femvox. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 15, 2013 11:00:57 GMT -6
Ever used the "grindy" LA4 on bass? It's a beautiful thing! My general rule of thumb: LA2As for vocals, wind instruments, violins and the like. LA3As for guitars electric and acoustic, mandolin and that family. La4s for bass, kick, snare or anything else for you wish to smear or grind a little. Of course, a CL1b is a GLORIOUS thing on Femvox. I've never used an LA4. Basically swap an 1176 in where you use the LA4 and I agree completely. The TLA100 or LA2A would be more jazz style bass than rock. |
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Post by Ward on Aug 16, 2013 4:44:33 GMT -6
You must try an LA4.
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Post by crash on Aug 21, 2013 6:11:42 GMT -6
The only issue with the LA4 is it gets darker the harder it compresses. There is an opamp swap you can do with the unit to get rid of this oddity which I did with mine. It requires an adapter for the correct pinout for new opamps but you can get it all here if anyone is interested: cimarrontechnology.com/rc4136upgradeadapter.aspx |
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Post by Ward on Aug 23, 2013 9:49:26 GMT -6
The only issue with the LA4 is it gets darker the harder it compresses. There is an opamp swap you can do with the unit to get rid of this oddity which I did with mine. It requires an adapter for the correct pinout for new opamps but you can get it all here if anyone is interested: cimarrontechnology.com/rc4136upgradeadapter.aspxThat is one of the features of it. You choose what kind of tone it imparts. But if you need heavy compression with it, and don't like the resulting darkened tone, there is always the option of EQing it out. The "darkening" doesn't come from a shunting of high mid and high end frequencies, but with the "growth" of the low mid and low end frequencies. Because they carry more energy. You can also pre-EQ to off-set this. The mod you speak of changes the LA4 into something entirely different. |
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Post by crash on Aug 23, 2013 9:57:10 GMT -6
I wouldn't call it a "feature" myself though I guess you could call it that, depending on your interpretation of the word. Just pointing it out... many have done the mod and dig it, as have I.
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Post by Mark Kano on Sept 15, 2013 6:41:03 GMT -6
Just picked up a used TLA-100A. For just under $1100 used this is a great value. Very smooth on bass. Nice to use big controls for a change. Can't wait to try it out on vocals and acoustics. Seems like this might be a nice compromise between owning a la2a/sta/cl1b and one of the 500 series optos.
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Post by Ward on Sept 15, 2013 17:14:23 GMT -6
Just picked up a used TLA-100A. For just under $1100 used this is a great value. Very smooth on bass. Nice to use big controls for a change. Can't wait to try it out on vocals and acoustics. Seems like this might be a nice compromise between owning a la2a/sta/cl1b and one of the 500 series optos. I'm curious as to how the TL100A compares to any of the UREI/Universal Audio LA series. Anyone willing to speak to that? |
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Post by deehope on Sept 16, 2013 17:36:10 GMT -6
The tla100 has always been on my radar. I messaged Dave when he released the Falcon and it pretty much seems like its a more versatile tla. He stated it can be cleaner or more colored then the tla100.
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Post by Mark Kano on Sept 20, 2013 14:48:48 GMT -6
It's a very nice sounding unit. It's pretty transparent at lower gain reduction settings, but as you dig in it has way more color. I believe the ratio actually increases with higher reduction settings, which is great for catching peaks. Unfortunately my used (new to me) unit has a non tube related noise issue and needs service. Arghh
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 2, 2020 21:40:05 GMT -6
I hate reviving such an old thread, but I'm curious if anyone here currently uses a TLA-100A. I've owned the UAD/Softube TLA-100A since I bought my Apollo. It is a plugin I use on most of my mixes; bass, piano, and classical voice are the big ones. I use the UAD LA2A collection a lot as well; pop, jazz, rock vocals. I keep going back to the TLA-100A whenever the mix starts to get a bit too goey and needs more clarity. That said, a little EQ and the right signal chain can give me the sound I'm looking for with the TLA-100A in those genres. I've been planning a dive into hybrid mixing with a few specific pieces of gear and the TLA-100A is a piece I've debated picking up, and maybe even picking up a pair. I've also looked into a few of the more affordable LA2A clones like Audio-scape's Opto, but I'm curious about the TLA-100A and thought I'd ask. I recorded my first album through Summit's MPA-100A. So I know the build quality is really nice. I also know it's a favorite of Al Schmitt's.
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Post by ragan on Feb 2, 2020 22:11:12 GMT -6
I hate reviving such an old thread, but I'm curious if anyone here currently uses a TLA-100A. I've owned the UAD/Softube TLA-100A since I bought my Apollo. It is a plugin I use on most of my mixes; bass, piano, and classical voice are the big ones. I use the UAD LA2A collection a lot as well; pop, jazz, rock vocals. I keep going back to the TLA-100A whenever the mix starts to get a bit too goey and needs more clarity. That said, a little EQ and the right signal chain can give me the sound I'm looking for with the TLA-100A in those genres. I've been planning a dive into hybrid mixing with a few specific pieces of gear and the TLA-100A is a piece I've debated picking up, and maybe even picking up a pair. I've also looked into a few of the more affordable LA2A clones like Audio-scape's Opto, but I'm curious about the TLA-100A and thought I'd ask. I recorded my first album through Summit's MPA-100A. So I know the build quality is really nice. I also know it's a favorite of Al Schmitt's. I always liked that plug too and kinda jonesed for the hardware unit. |
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Post by sean on Feb 2, 2020 22:36:43 GMT -6
I have two. I like them more than the reissue LA-2A I had. I pretty much always track with them on bass. They also work well on vocals. I think for what they sell for used (around $1000) they are a great value. I also owned a Audioscape Opto and decided to get another TLA100 after comparing them side by side. I don’t think that TLA is “better” but I record a lot of upright bass with two microphones and being able to track both through one is great
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Post by yotonic on Feb 2, 2020 23:58:36 GMT -6
The TLA has been used on a lot of famous vocals, Whitney Houston, Rob Thomas, Colby Callait. I used to own one and I paired it with an Avalon M5 preamp which is a common vox chain and it was an awesome combination while being super affordable. It's a steal at $1,000 used, especially when a vintage La2a is $7,000
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 3, 2020 5:50:32 GMT -6
The TLA has been used on a lot of famous vocals, Whitney Houston, Rob Thomas, Colby Callait. I used to own one and I paired it with an Avalon M5 preamp which is a common vox chain and it was an awesome combination while being super affordable. It's a steal at $1,000 used, especially when a vintage La2a is $7,000 Yeah, if I decided to really look at the LA2A I’d probably end up going with the reissue. |
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 3, 2020 6:03:35 GMT -6
I have two. I like them more than the reissue LA-2A I had. I pretty much always track with them on bass. They also work well on vocals. I think for what they sell for used (around $1000) they are a great value. I also owned a Audioscape Opto and decided to get another TLA100 after comparing them side by side. I don’t think that TLA is “better” but I record a lot of upright bass with two microphones and being able to track both through one is great Hey Sean, I’m curious what you liked “better” about the TLA-100A compared to the LA2A reissue and Audio-Scape Opto. Obviously it’s all subjective. 2 channels to record an upright bass with 2 mics is exactly the kind of thing I would want to use it for. That and most likely vocals. Sometimes Emily and I record duets simultaneously or I would send the signal out while mixing a duet so I can use the same chain on both vocals. |
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Post by sean on Feb 3, 2020 7:53:31 GMT -6
Mostly the variable attack and release times. I will say that it does “dull” the sound a little bit but I often don’t mind that. I don’t need to emphasis the clacks of an upright or the sibilance of a vocal. I have a CL1B I really like for vocals but if you hit it too hard the sibilance can come back to bite you.
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Post by matt on Feb 3, 2020 8:43:43 GMT -6
The TLA100 A can be seen on several Al Schmitt music production videos shot at Capital. If I recall correctly, he uses it on bass as his go-to comp. I've wanted one myself but have always ended up with other priorities so I stick with the UAD version. It's still on my wish list.
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Post by brenta on Feb 3, 2020 11:00:17 GMT -6
I don't currently use one but two of the studios I used to assist at each had one so I got to hear them used by a lot of different engineers on a lot of different kinds of artists.
It's awesome on vocals and bass and the additional attack and release settings make it more versatile than an LA2A but you can still dial it in really quickly when tracking. It has a different color than an LA2A as well. I like it a bit better than an LA2A. The Softube/UAD plugin is nice too.
Overall it's one of my favorite compressors and I'm hoping to buy one this year.
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Post by spindrift on Feb 3, 2020 11:21:09 GMT -6
It’s a great tube compressor and a good value on the used market. They sound great...simple as that.
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Post by damoongo on Feb 3, 2020 12:27:34 GMT -6
It’s a great tube compressor and a good value on the used market. They sound great...simple as that. Love my pair. Bass (especially upright. Sta-level often wins on electric bass.) Vox. Acoustic guitar to pull it into focus and even out some inconsistencies. |
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Post by ericn on Feb 4, 2020 7:31:33 GMT -6
Remember the TLA 100 may look like an LA 2 clone but it isn’t an option and only has 1 tube.
On the right voice it’s the sound like a record comp, very useable on bass and in pairs drum bus.
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Post by EmRR on Feb 4, 2020 7:54:13 GMT -6
I’m recalling they used to advertise a 990 output stage.
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