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Post by mrholmes on Jan 9, 2015 3:56:10 GMT -6
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Post by wiz on Jan 9, 2015 4:13:19 GMT -6
it err... ahem... De "ff" d me quite nicely. 8) cheers Wiz   Not a 'swedish' thing then! So do you use one deesser for the sss and another for the fff? Same one |
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Post by unit7 on Jan 9, 2015 4:49:47 GMT -6
Not a 'swedish' thing then! So do you use one deesser for the sss and another for the fff? Same one Ok thx! But in my case(s) that wouldn't work because the fff's are so much quiter than the sss's, so I would be forced to lower the thsld too much. |
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Post by wiz on Jan 9, 2015 5:41:10 GMT -6
Ok thx! But in my case(s) that wouldn't work because the fff's are so much quiter than the sss's, so I would be forced to lower the thsld too much. Automate the threshold? |
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Post by jimwilliams on Jan 9, 2015 9:57:33 GMT -6
I have a pair of Aphex 612 expander/gates, but rarely use them as noise gates. If you don't record the noise you won't need to remove it later. I do use the filters a lot.
I leave the ambience on tracks as I don't like to attenuate it, the mixing goes better without removing it. If I remove it everything sounds like it was recorded DI and the drums sound like a machine. I like the live feel of live players playing together in the same room at the same time, the leakage is your friend.
Otherwise you get that dry, one man band sound.
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Post by Ward on Jan 9, 2015 10:44:59 GMT -6
Anything that isn't useful audio is manually cut out. I fade a little in and out on each cut. I cut tom hits manually too so I can get rid of the annoying ringing from the other drums and so I can tailor their tails. Same for everything else. I'll manually duck P's on vocals, cut out things like breaths, loud farts and laughter from the vocalist as the drummer shows his ass through the glass while trying to get the singer to mess up. Ghost notes on bass and guitar, fret noise, chair creaks, all gone. I also time align my drums. I find a hard hit on something like the snare, and I'll make sure everything is in the same polarity and drag every drum track separately to line up to the same hit in the overheads. I do the same for DI and bass cabinet tracks. Have the bassist do a hard pluck or strike the strings so that you can line up the hit later. It's hard to think of it all since it's pretty much automatic these days. I also do all these things. Sometimes I have to go further when I'm dealing with a drummer who insists on 'slashing' his hi-hats or bashing the hell out of a crash/crash-ride during a chorus section. So at the end of each song's session, I record extra and have the drummer hit each drum 10-12 times so I can have 'samples' of the drums in place that are from the actual session. Sometimes I will manually go in and edit up each snare or kick hit in a section and replace with one of the recorded 'samples'. I never use just one and try to match the edited hit in each case. It is very tedious but totally worth it in a dense mix that needs clarity. I'll also do the same on tom tracks. I'll also record a series of bass notes from the bassist just in case a note needs to be replaced under tighter scrutiny. And end chords from guitars, always... Interesting thread! |
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Post by mrholmes on Jan 9, 2015 23:12:15 GMT -6
I really don't like using "fix it" plugins unless it is the types that can clean up hiss or cracks w/o messing up the sound. Really if you zoom in and take those types of things out it's the best way. I do much more when I'm editing but those are the main areas I hit. I like this sentence.... but some little helpers save a lot of time. I mentioned the SONOX De-Esser before. I was impressed with it because its an invisible process without limiting the recorded quality. If time is money, like in your businesses, I would use it. |
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Post by henge on Jan 10, 2015 8:09:42 GMT -6
Like most of you I edit the necessary stuff but the band I'm working with now sounds great with all the nasty bleed and looseness. etc.
It's so refreshing to only edit out extraneous sounds. There's a real beauty in out of tune and loose. Actually sounds bigger in a way.
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Post by Ward on Jan 10, 2015 13:28:05 GMT -6
Like most of you I edit the necessary stuff but the band I'm working with now sounds great with all the nasty bleed and looseness. etc. It's so refreshing to only edit out extraneous sounds. There's a real beauty in out of tune and loose. Actually sounds bigger in a way. You have a real talent for making that work, actually. I love your snare and guitar sounds! |
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Post by henge on Jan 11, 2015 7:50:13 GMT -6
Like most of you I edit the necessary stuff but the band I'm working with now sounds great with all the nasty bleed and looseness. etc. It's so refreshing to only edit out extraneous sounds. There's a real beauty in out of tune and loose. Actually sounds bigger in a way. You have a real talent for making that work, actually. I love your snare and guitar sounds! Thanks Ward!! |
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